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Replying To Keephimthere: "How did Manorhamilton get on in the LGFA semi?" Not good. But we are not allowed talk about it on this forum. It seems. Discussions have been blocked and removed by admin for some reason.
Backheel (Leitrim) - Posts: 169 - 03/11/2024 11:43:33
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Replying To sillyjambon12: "Certainly. J Barnes for Marys and J McGloin of Melvin Gaels were used as subs for the majority of the season with their respective clubs. While McGloin had good contributions off the bench I don't know is it really a county level standard. Granted he is good enough for u20 I'll say that.
But can you really tell me that bringing in 2/3 players from clubs in junior or competing in junior will bring a competitiveness to the county set up. Not discriminating on the little clubs but I just dont think some of those players are at that level. I understand inclusion of every club is important but we have to be realists here and ask how many of those players would contribute greatly to the county?" Mcgloin has been nursing a knee injury all year. Wasn't allowed full minutes
Leitrimman05 (Leitrim) - Posts: 9 - 03/11/2024 12:46:42
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Replying To Backheel: "Not good. But we are not allowed talk about it on this forum. It seems. Discussions have been blocked and removed by admin for some reason." What? No they aren't. Or at least I don't believe you. I for one would normally pop in fairly quick with a result, but look, it was just a bad day at the office for the girls, they were understrength with some of the Leitrim contingent off on a well-deserved holiday after doing the county proud over the summer, and they were facing the might of the reigning All-Ireland champions. I'm sure the last thing they or anyone else wants is to have their noses rubbed on it here on the Leitrim forum, and I certainly wasn't going to be crowing about the result when it's freely available wherever you want it online and the when the question was only asked to stir, and by an outsider too.
Tacaí Liatroma (Leitrim) - Posts: 1126 - 03/11/2024 13:47:13
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Replying To Tacaí Liatroma: "What? No they aren't. Or at least I don't believe you. I for one would normally pop in fairly quick with a result, but look, it was just a bad day at the office for the girls, they were understrength with some of the Leitrim contingent off on a well-deserved holiday after doing the county proud over the summer, and they were facing the might of the reigning All-Ireland champions. I'm sure the last thing they or anyone else wants is to have their noses rubbed on it here on the Leitrim forum, and I certainly wasn't going to be crowing about the result when it's freely available wherever you want it online and the when the question was only asked to stir, and by an outsider too." Hi Tacai, I was talking about the conversation about the game and the Leitrim girls not being available. I had post put up and taken done when I wondered how it got to that. There were also a post that admin didn't put up. I don't know why. I am curious about how the situation arose that's all and I genuinely have no skin in the game. If it was in men's game it would be national news.
Backheel (Leitrim) - Posts: 169 - 03/11/2024 14:38:11
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Replying To JimmyNail: "Who's dipper? And Conor and Jordan Reynolds not brothers not even same club. If true about Rooney huge loss though" Dipper has given his best years at this stage. Wayne Mc Keon should be begged back. Awful pity he wasn't kept involved throughout his life. Outstanding passer of the ball and hard as nails too.
TJH (Sligo) - Posts: 58 - 04/11/2024 09:15:19
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Replying To coldfeet: "Rooney is also transferring back to Melvin Gaels , additionally Paul Brennan & Emyln Mulligan rejoining Melvin Gaels also, Former Donegal U20 Manager Franice Martin & Frank Mc Glynn taking over Melvin Gaels." Does this mean Mulligan won't be in charge of Fenagh next year or will he not be playing senior football?
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Replying To boxtyburgerbuns: "Does this mean Mulligan won't be in charge of Fenagh next year or will he not be playing senior football?" Surely mulligan will keep on managing Fenagh, decent gig for him for his first year as a manger one would think.
williesboy (Leitrim) - Posts: 419 - 04/11/2024 14:56:21
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Replying To Dodgy_Pass: "Given the new management, here are some players across the U20/Senior grade I think they should bring in, have a few in house games like the recent interpros similar to what Andy did at the beginning of his term. Some are current co players, some are not. Definitely one or two in every club to look at. Some should be co players but haven't shown the interest and likely won't. Some would be co players and younger players would have to out perform decent club players in the trial games to be considered. Would be a worthwhile exercise to identify late developing talent outside the traditional County Squad Structure. Bearing in mind collective training doesn't start til December, of course.
Aughavas: Éanna McNamara, Darren Shortt
Allen Gaels: Tobin, Moran, McMorrow, Duffy, Oberwans X 2
Annaduff: D Cox, Eoin Gill, S Mooney, C Reynolds
Aughnasheelin: Darragh Gunn, Fintan Fitz, Cillian Cullen
Aughawillan: T Plunkett, G Plunkett,
Bornacoola: Jonny Boyle, A Mulligan
Ballinaglera: J McGrail, W Reynolds, P McGourty
Ballinamore: Maxwell, McBrien, K McHugh, D McGovern, Morans X 2, Prior, Honeyman, McManus,
Carrigallen: P McCann, C Kiernan, É Ward
Cloone: B Donohoe, C Keegan,
Dromahair: M Feeney, A Gethins, J Clinton, J Clancy
Drumreilly: P Prior
Drumkeerin: F Davitt, D Maguire, C McCauley, C McPartland, J Gallagher
Eslin: J McNabola, C Beirne
Fenagh: C Dwyer, Ó Rourkes x 2, C McLoughlin, F McLoughlin, D McLoughlin, É McLoughlin
Gortletteragh: B Naughton, R Cunningham, O Niblock
Glencar Manor: É Sweeney, S Sheridan, T Hughes, J Kelly, B McNulty
Glenfarne Kilty: ?
Kiltubrid: J Foley, S McLoughlin, F O'Brien
Leitrim Gaels: D Casey, S Goldrick, A Flynn, J Flynn, P Flynn
Mohill: J Rowley, D.Mitchell, Harkins X 2, Quinns X 2, Flynn, Beirne, Reynolds,
Melvin Gaels: C&J McGloin, C Clancy, Liam Ryan, Kieran Clancy
St Mary's: Gaffey, A Reynolds, C Hackett, D Kelleher, G Reynolds, C Singleton, Keaneys x 2, Diffley, O Bohan, Barnes x 2" Fair play for taking the time to compile the list but you could've spent it much better by doing some proper research. Genuinely awful ball knowledge.
Named two lads from my own club that aren't guaranteed starters amongst several others that shouldn't be near a county set up as would rarely (if at all) be stand out for their clubs. In an ideal world, the county manager would go and watch the junior final, intermediate quarter/semi onwards and senior quarter/semi onwards and make their decision on players based off that. I also think selectors/representatives should attend early league games to spot talent throughout the year particularly in division 1 and division 2 and the panel should not be closed.
I am from a mid sized club and therefore do not have a "big-club" bias but feel If a team doesn't make it to the knockout stages, it is extremely unlikely they have a county grade player in their ranks particularly in intermediate or junior - never mind teams being relegated from their respective grades. It is also irrelevant if they were good underage players - it often doesn't translate up to senior as different distractions come into play and therefore players shouldn't be "invited" into county panels unless its on merit based off their performances for their senior club teams - I could think of a few named above for example.
A county team should be backboned by the senior championship finalists of which Mohill/Ballinamore easily harbour 15 county standard players between them as do Fenagh and St Mary's. Thereafter, you go through the most competitive teams and/or standout players in the different grades and fill in the panel accordingly or even have open trials that players can elect to attend opposed to being invited - you wouldn't be long halving the the above list and finding a few more worthy players too.
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Replying To Dodgy_Pass: "Given the new management, here are some players across the U20/Senior grade I think they should bring in, have a few in house games like the recent interpros similar to what Andy did at the beginning of his term. Some are current co players, some are not. Definitely one or two in every club to look at. Some should be co players but haven't shown the interest and likely won't. Some would be co players and younger players would have to out perform decent club players in the trial games to be considered. Would be a worthwhile exercise to identify late developing talent outside the traditional County Squad Structure. Bearing in mind collective training doesn't start til December, of course.
Aughavas: Éanna McNamara, Darren Shortt
Allen Gaels: Tobin, Moran, McMorrow, Duffy, Oberwans X 2
Annaduff: D Cox, Eoin Gill, S Mooney, C Reynolds
Aughnasheelin: Darragh Gunn, Fintan Fitz, Cillian Cullen
Aughawillan: T Plunkett, G Plunkett,
Bornacoola: Jonny Boyle, A Mulligan
Ballinaglera: J McGrail, W Reynolds, P McGourty
Ballinamore: Maxwell, McBrien, K McHugh, D McGovern, Morans X 2, Prior, Honeyman, McManus,
Carrigallen: P McCann, C Kiernan, É Ward
Cloone: B Donohoe, C Keegan,
Dromahair: M Feeney, A Gethins, J Clinton, J Clancy
Drumreilly: P Prior
Drumkeerin: F Davitt, D Maguire, C McCauley, C McPartland, J Gallagher
Eslin: J McNabola, C Beirne
Fenagh: C Dwyer, Ó Rourkes x 2, C McLoughlin, F McLoughlin, D McLoughlin, É McLoughlin
Gortletteragh: B Naughton, R Cunningham, O Niblock
Glencar Manor: É Sweeney, S Sheridan, T Hughes, J Kelly, B McNulty
Glenfarne Kilty: ?
Kiltubrid: J Foley, S McLoughlin, F O'Brien
Leitrim Gaels: D Casey, S Goldrick, A Flynn, J Flynn, P Flynn
Mohill: J Rowley, D.Mitchell, Harkins X 2, Quinns X 2, Flynn, Beirne, Reynolds,
Melvin Gaels: C&J McGloin, C Clancy, Liam Ryan, Kieran Clancy
St Mary's: Gaffey, A Reynolds, C Hackett, D Kelleher, G Reynolds, C Singleton, Keaneys x 2, Diffley, O Bohan, Barnes x 2" Fair play for taking the time to compile the list but you could've spent it much better by doing some proper research. Genuinely awful ball knowledge.
Named two lads from my own club that aren't guaranteed starters amongst several others that shouldn't be near a county set up as would rarely (if at all) be stand out for their clubs. In an ideal world, the county manager would go and watch the junior final, intermediate quarter/semi onwards and senior quarter/semi onwards and make their decision on players based off that. I also think selectors/representatives should attend early league games to spot talent throughout the year particularly in division 1 and division 2 and the panel should not be closed.
I am from a mid sized club and therefore do not have a "big-club" bias but feel If a team doesn't make it to the knockout stages, it is extremely unlikely they have a county grade player in their ranks particularly in intermediate or junior - never mind teams being relegated from their respective grades. It is also irrelevant if they were good underage players - it often doesn't translate up to senior as different distractions come into play and therefore players shouldn't be "invited" into county panels unless its on merit based off their performances for their senior club teams - I could think of a few named above for example.
A county team should be backboned by the senior championship finalists of which Mohill/Ballinamore easily harbour 15 county standard players between them as do Fenagh and St Mary's. Thereafter, you go through the most competitive teams and/or standout players in the different grades and fill in the panel accordingly or even have open trials that players can elect to attend opposed to being invited - you wouldn't be long halving the the above list and finding a few more worthy players too.
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Replying To williesboy: "Surely mulligan will keep on managing Fenagh, decent gig for him for his first year as a manger one would think." i think its Bobby O'Rourke with Fenagh.
meathbasedfan (Leitrim) - Posts: 129 - 04/11/2024 18:01:12
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Replying To DontMindMe: "Fair play for taking the time to compile the list but you could've spent it much better by doing some proper research. Genuinely awful ball knowledge.
Named two lads from my own club that aren't guaranteed starters amongst several others that shouldn't be near a county set up as would rarely (if at all) be stand out for their clubs. In an ideal world, the county manager would go and watch the junior final, intermediate quarter/semi onwards and senior quarter/semi onwards and make their decision on players based off that. I also think selectors/representatives should attend early league games to spot talent throughout the year particularly in division 1 and division 2 and the panel should not be closed.
I am from a mid sized club and therefore do not have a "big-club" bias but feel If a team doesn't make it to the knockout stages, it is extremely unlikely they have a county grade player in their ranks particularly in intermediate or junior - never mind teams being relegated from their respective grades. It is also irrelevant if they were good underage players - it often doesn't translate up to senior as different distractions come into play and therefore players shouldn't be "invited" into county panels unless its on merit based off their performances for their senior club teams - I could think of a few named above for example.
A county team should be backboned by the senior championship finalists of which Mohill/Ballinamore easily harbour 15 county standard players between them as do Fenagh and St Mary's. Thereafter, you go through the most competitive teams and/or standout players in the different grades and fill in the panel accordingly or even have open trials that players can elect to attend opposed to being invited - you wouldn't be long halving the the above list and finding a few more worthy players too." For the sake of clarity, so as not to upset any more esteemed posters, I would draw attention to the first part of my offending post where I did say that those names would merit being called in for a few in house games like the recent interpros, not for automatic inclusion onto a panel or even an extended panel, and also that the idea of it would be that any young player early 20s etc would have to perform well on a good club footballer in a couple of trial games to see is he worth consideration long term?
On another point, just because some lads don't start for the club doesn't mean the should be excluded from selection, in particular, Mohill, Ballinamore, and St Mary's have players who don't always make their starting 15 but have been on U20 teams this year and last, and others have the size / strength required to make it at inter county level. Naturally for the majority of cases starting for your club would be a prerequisite but in a county like ours with the numbers we're working off dismissing a player on that score is lowest common denominator stuff altogether.
It's all academic anyway, given Barry McWeeney and to a lesser extent Jones are providing continuity such exercises won't be needed, but Andy Moran cast a much wider net than that with 80+ players trialled over two nights when he was appointed first to get a good feel for what was in the county, and if a new appointment at senior level isn't a good time to restock the shelves, then you'd wonder what's the point?
As regards some of your own observations, - I also think selectors/representatives should attend early league games to spot talent throughout the year particularly in division 1 and division 2 and the panel should not be closed. - The "early league games" are in late May and early June, by which time Leitrim have already finished their main competition i.e. the NFL, and Connacht. Not sure what use bringing in players to the panel at that late stage of the inter county year would be.
- If a team doesn't make it to the knockout stages, it is extremely unlikely they have a county grade player in their ranks particularly in intermediate or junior - never mind teams being relegated from their respective grades. - Leitrim teams down the years have always contained representation from teams who were never in with a shout of winning a Senior
A county team should be backboned by the senior championship finalists of which Mohill/Ballinamore easily harbour 15 county standard players between them as do Fenagh and St Mary's. - I'd think you'd find my initial hypothetical situation would result in that anyways, but if Ballinamore are by your logic expected to contribute towards "15 county standard players", they only managed to contribute Tom Prior for the majority of 2024? You also have the case of players like the Harkins who are tailor made for the inter county game but are consistently happy to remain club players? Just because 2+ clubs have the ability to backbone a senior side, doesn't mean they will. Abbeylara won a championship over the border with 2 county players, and may only have 4 on next years panel so that doesnt hold much water?
open trials that players can elect to attend opposed to being invited - a lovely idea in theory, but I've never heard tell of it in any county at adult level, unless it's Masters.
As for my genuinely awful ball knowledge, I'm sorry if I left your name off my initial list!
Dodgy_Pass (Leitrim) - Posts: 380 - 04/11/2024 18:10:22
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Replying To DontMindMe: "Fair play for taking the time to compile the list but you could've spent it much better by doing some proper research. Genuinely awful ball knowledge.
Named two lads from my own club that aren't guaranteed starters amongst several others that shouldn't be near a county set up as would rarely (if at all) be stand out for their clubs. In an ideal world, the county manager would go and watch the junior final, intermediate quarter/semi onwards and senior quarter/semi onwards and make their decision on players based off that. I also think selectors/representatives should attend early league games to spot talent throughout the year particularly in division 1 and division 2 and the panel should not be closed.
I am from a mid sized club and therefore do not have a "big-club" bias but feel If a team doesn't make it to the knockout stages, it is extremely unlikely they have a county grade player in their ranks particularly in intermediate or junior - never mind teams being relegated from their respective grades. It is also irrelevant if they were good underage players - it often doesn't translate up to senior as different distractions come into play and therefore players shouldn't be "invited" into county panels unless its on merit based off their performances for their senior club teams - I could think of a few named above for example.
A county team should be backboned by the senior championship finalists of which Mohill/Ballinamore easily harbour 15 county standard players between them as do Fenagh and St Mary's. Thereafter, you go through the most competitive teams and/or standout players in the different grades and fill in the panel accordingly or even have open trials that players can elect to attend opposed to being invited - you wouldn't be long halving the the above list and finding a few more worthy players too." So going by your logic the like of Jack McCarron shouldn't have received a call up to the Monaghan team when he was playing junior club football in Monaghan with his club Currin, but now that he has transferred to Scotstown and won a senior champ he's good to go??
Such nonsense. The county team should be based off the best players in the county irregardless of the level of club football they play. Several junior and intermediate clubs don't progress in their championships but often have one or more outstanding players on their team.
David Clifford played junior club football and now plays intermediate for Fossa. What Kerry have that we don't is divisional teams for these junior and intermediate players to go up against senior level opposition in their club championships and see how they fare.
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Replying To DontMindMe: "Fair play for taking the time to compile the list but you could've spent it much better by doing some proper research. Genuinely awful ball knowledge.
Named two lads from my own club that aren't guaranteed starters amongst several others that shouldn't be near a county set up as would rarely (if at all) be stand out for their clubs. In an ideal world, the county manager would go and watch the junior final, intermediate quarter/semi onwards and senior quarter/semi onwards and make their decision on players based off that. I also think selectors/representatives should attend early league games to spot talent throughout the year particularly in division 1 and division 2 and the panel should not be closed.
I am from a mid sized club and therefore do not have a "big-club" bias but feel If a team doesn't make it to the knockout stages, it is extremely unlikely they have a county grade player in their ranks particularly in intermediate or junior - never mind teams being relegated from their respective grades. It is also irrelevant if they were good underage players - it often doesn't translate up to senior as different distractions come into play and therefore players shouldn't be "invited" into county panels unless its on merit based off their performances for their senior club teams - I could think of a few named above for example.
A county team should be backboned by the senior championship finalists of which Mohill/Ballinamore easily harbour 15 county standard players between them as do Fenagh and St Mary's. Thereafter, you go through the most competitive teams and/or standout players in the different grades and fill in the panel accordingly or even have open trials that players can elect to attend opposed to being invited - you wouldn't be long halving the the above list and finding a few more worthy players too." only awful ball knowledge is from yourself, so I take it Jack Foley probably the best young talent in the county, along with his club mate Stephen McLoughlan should be axed from the panel. Darren Cox another bright young talent gone also as he was relegated from senior???
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Peter O'Leary Laois on board as selector.
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Instead of all the pub talk on this about the merits of senior, intermediate and junior etc. Can we talk about what we will be actually dealing with next year?
We have definitely lost Mark Plunkett and Pearce Dolan. It seems Darragh Rooney, Jack Gilheany, James Rooney, Donal Wrynn, Conor Reynolds and Aidan Flynn could be gone aswell.
Keith Beirne returning will obviously be a huge addition.
Donal Casey and Cillian McGloin also missed the guts of last year with long term injuries. and theres question marks over Shane Quinns involvement.
Thats 6/7 of our starters against Laois from the league final. A terrifying turnover in all fairness with the second smallest population of footballers in the country.
That leaves major holes especially in defence/middle third. Where we were already poor.
In my eyes I'd be doing all I could to coax the likes of Darragh Rooney back in if possible and Shane Moran aswell. If Jack Heslin could get over his injury problems he would be a great addition aswell.
We will be left with a really talented but really light and inexperienced team. With the new rules we will be well able to score but be wide open at the back.
Killian Gaffey/Nevin O'Donnell
Cillian McGloin* Mark Diffley Cathal McHugh
Jack Foley Donal Casey Jamie McGreal?
Radek Oberwan
Barry McNulty
Paul Keaney Keith Beirne* Ben Guckian
Tom Prior Ryan O'Rourke Darren Cox
The shame is Leitrim could have a really competitive division 3 team if all the players that will be in Australia in 2025 where at home. Would other countys be using all of their means to coax these players to stay home?
Leitrim1234 (Leitrim) - Posts: 316 - 05/11/2024 10:58:42
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Replying To leitrim4sam: "So going by your logic the like of Jack McCarron shouldn't have received a call up to the Monaghan team when he was playing junior club football in Monaghan with his club Currin, but now that he has transferred to Scotstown and won a senior champ he's good to go??
Such nonsense. The county team should be based off the best players in the county irregardless of the level of club football they play. Several junior and intermediate clubs don't progress in their championships but often have one or more outstanding players on their team.
David Clifford played junior club football and now plays intermediate for Fossa. What Kerry have that we don't is divisional teams for these junior and intermediate players to go up against senior level opposition in their club championships and see how they fare." Your point literally backs my logic. Why did Jack McCarron transfer within the county from a junior team to a senior team? Its not as if he had to travel hours for club training. Additionally, David Clifford is from a junior club that also plays amalgamated senior championship - he also lead Fossa to an All Ireland championship per my point - he wasn't playing junior for too long. My point wasn't disregard players from junior teams but in Leitrim, where the standard is incomparable with any level in Leitrim, is build around players playing at the top level and fill in the panel thereafter. Hardly rocket science
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Replying To Dodgy_Pass: "For the sake of clarity, so as not to upset any more esteemed posters, I would draw attention to the first part of my offending post where I did say that those names would merit being called in for a few in house games like the recent interpros, not for automatic inclusion onto a panel or even an extended panel, and also that the idea of it would be that any young player early 20s etc would have to perform well on a good club footballer in a couple of trial games to see is he worth consideration long term?
On another point, just because some lads don't start for the club doesn't mean the should be excluded from selection, in particular, Mohill, Ballinamore, and St Mary's have players who don't always make their starting 15 but have been on U20 teams this year and last, and others have the size / strength required to make it at inter county level. Naturally for the majority of cases starting for your club would be a prerequisite but in a county like ours with the numbers we're working off dismissing a player on that score is lowest common denominator stuff altogether.
It's all academic anyway, given Barry McWeeney and to a lesser extent Jones are providing continuity such exercises won't be needed, but Andy Moran cast a much wider net than that with 80+ players trialled over two nights when he was appointed first to get a good feel for what was in the county, and if a new appointment at senior level isn't a good time to restock the shelves, then you'd wonder what's the point?
As regards some of your own observations, - I also think selectors/representatives should attend early league games to spot talent throughout the year particularly in division 1 and division 2 and the panel should not be closed. - The "early league games" are in late May and early June, by which time Leitrim have already finished their main competition i.e. the NFL, and Connacht. Not sure what use bringing in players to the panel at that late stage of the inter county year would be.
- If a team doesn't make it to the knockout stages, it is extremely unlikely they have a county grade player in their ranks particularly in intermediate or junior - never mind teams being relegated from their respective grades. - Leitrim teams down the years have always contained representation from teams who were never in with a shout of winning a Senior
A county team should be backboned by the senior championship finalists of which Mohill/Ballinamore easily harbour 15 county standard players between them as do Fenagh and St Mary's. - I'd think you'd find my initial hypothetical situation would result in that anyways, but if Ballinamore are by your logic expected to contribute towards "15 county standard players", they only managed to contribute Tom Prior for the majority of 2024? You also have the case of players like the Harkins who are tailor made for the inter county game but are consistently happy to remain club players? Just because 2+ clubs have the ability to backbone a senior side, doesn't mean they will. Abbeylara won a championship over the border with 2 county players, and may only have 4 on next years panel so that doesnt hold much water?
open trials that players can elect to attend opposed to being invited - a lovely idea in theory, but I've never heard tell of it in any county at adult level, unless it's Masters.
As for my genuinely awful ball knowledge, I'm sorry if I left your name off my initial list!" (a) Per your below dig, you sound like the parent of a player in this position because if a player isn't starting for their club team In Leitrim, its a ridiculous argument to say they would be fit to play county football irrespective of whether they played underage county football - wise up, although improvements are being made, no Leitrim u20 have been digging up trees. If they can't make their club 15, how could you argue they make a county team of the best AVAILABLE players in the county. Its Leitrim, not Leinster or Irish rugby.
(b) So by attending early league games, you wouldn't unearth a potential championship game winner who is in form for his club or starter for the following year? The sooner they are integrated, the better. Also Andy Moran hadn't a clue what was going on in the county - attended senior games at the latter end of competitions only. As I said previously, junior finals and intermediate quarter/semis onwards should merit attention from county management teams. I know certain performances from lads in my club and the opposition we play should merit attention but whose attending the games to see it?
(c) I didn't say Ballinamore should contribute 15 players - I said between Ballinamore and Mohill, they could contribute 15 players, that's not to say any of the players will or won't - all 'hypothetical' as you say. It would make sense that you would backbone the county teams with those teams most competitive i.e., Mohill, Carrick, St Mary's etc. where possible. Your point on Abbeylara again adds to mine, they had 2, may have 6 next year, Colmcille had 3-6 this year at different stages - that's hypothetically 12 players on the panel from their final. Then everyone below that would fill in and could arguably start pending form of course.
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Replying To Leitrim1234: "Instead of all the pub talk on this about the merits of senior, intermediate and junior etc. Can we talk about what we will be actually dealing with next year?
We have definitely lost Mark Plunkett and Pearce Dolan. It seems Darragh Rooney, Jack Gilheany, James Rooney, Donal Wrynn, Conor Reynolds and Aidan Flynn could be gone aswell.
Keith Beirne returning will obviously be a huge addition.
Donal Casey and Cillian McGloin also missed the guts of last year with long term injuries. and theres question marks over Shane Quinns involvement.
Thats 6/7 of our starters against Laois from the league final. A terrifying turnover in all fairness with the second smallest population of footballers in the country.
That leaves major holes especially in defence/middle third. Where we were already poor.
In my eyes I'd be doing all I could to coax the likes of Darragh Rooney back in if possible and Shane Moran aswell. If Jack Heslin could get over his injury problems he would be a great addition aswell.
We will be left with a really talented but really light and inexperienced team. With the new rules we will be well able to score but be wide open at the back.
Killian Gaffey/Nevin O'Donnell
Cillian McGloin* Mark Diffley Cathal McHugh
Jack Foley Donal Casey Jamie McGreal?
Radek Oberwan
Barry McNulty
Paul Keaney Keith Beirne* Ben Guckian
Tom Prior Ryan O'Rourke Darren Cox
The shame is Leitrim could have a really competitive division 3 team if all the players that will be in Australia in 2025 where at home. Would other countys be using all of their means to coax these players to stay home?" Who are all these lads headed to Australia? I happened to come across the official programme for the Australasia games tournament recently... I counted 2 lads from Leitrim, one I know did play for the senior team in the last 5 years and the other did not (if at all). If there's loads of lads from Leitrim out in Australia, they're not playing GAA for sure.
Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1023 - 06/11/2024 15:43:02
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Replying To Square_B: "Who are all these lads headed to Australia? I happened to come across the official programme for the Australasia games tournament recently... I counted 2 lads from Leitrim, one I know did play for the senior team in the last 5 years and the other did not (if at all). If there's loads of lads from Leitrim out in Australia, they're not playing GAA for sure." Just off the top of my head here's a team of players that wont be playing for Leitrim next year and the majority of them will be in Australia.
Most of these players would be on the county panel (and have been in the past) if they were at home and a good lock of them would be key starters.
Would this team beat whatever team lines out in the national league next year? You could also add in the players who are stepping away or who have not committed for the last few years.
Diarmuid McKiernan
Michael McWeeny Oisin McCaffery Fergal McTague
Ciaran Cullen David Bruen Oisin Madden
Pearce Dolan
Aaron Hoare
Conor Cullen Darragh Rooney Mark Plunkett
Conor Gaffney Niall McGovern Caolan Clancy
You then have the likes of Enda Moreton, Colm Moreton, David Regan, Thomas Mulvey and more who are abroad. Which severely weakens the standard of our club championship and therefore football in Leitrim as a whole. I'm sure theres others that I don't know of aswell.
Leitrim1234 (Leitrim) - Posts: 316 - 07/11/2024 09:40:19
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