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Replying To Freethinker:  "He says that family commitments due to the travel will be the deciding factor. Not too sure that Crossmaglen to Roscommon would necessarily be any shorter a drive that Cross to Wicklow, given a motorway most of the way."
What would be the feeling on Burke compared to McConville down there?

FullOfPorter (Roscommon) - Posts: 216 - 25/06/2025 14:44:02    2620974

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Replying To FullOfPorter:  "What would be the feeling on Burke compared to McConville down there?"
Burke seemed to be doing ok. Vibes were positive. Then he walked. Nobody ever knew why. The Kildare job was coming up again. Maybe he was positioning himself, but he said not.

Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1705 - 25/06/2025 14:56:50    2620979

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Replying To FullOfPorter:  "I don't know, if he's packing in the job in Wicklow because of family committments then it seems unlikely he'll come our way? How do Wicklow rate him compared to Burke I wonder? Similar records on paper but McConville is an All Ireland winner and a perennial club winner with Crossmaglen so knows all about the standards that need to be set and I'm sure would instill belief in players.

On Frankie or Dunning? They would need some top coach in with them I would say. I like the idea of Don but don't know if that's possible."
I'm not too sure that Oisin has fully grasped the concept of the new rules. Still plays a lot of back and forward around the D. Possession being the priority But then, a lot of teams play a similar style . Kildare v Fermanagh was a case in point on Sunday, after we gifted Limerick our game.

Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1705 - 25/06/2025 15:02:21    2620982

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Replying To FullOfPorter:  "I don't know, if he's packing in the job in Wicklow because of family committments then it seems unlikely he'll come our way? How do Wicklow rate him compared to Burke I wonder? Similar records on paper but McConville is an All Ireland winner and a perennial club winner with Crossmaglen so knows all about the standards that need to be set and I'm sure would instill belief in players.

On Frankie or Dunning? They would need some top coach in with them I would say. I like the idea of Don but don't know if that's possible."
Was Frankie not involved with McConville in Wicklow as coach. (or was it another county)? Interesting if the two management teams swopped. Frankie back to Roscommon with McConville as manager and Davy Burke back to Wicklow.
I would say all his talk is very much remour rather than reality at the moment.
Davy Burke and Roscommon County Board would have to talk to each other about both their intentions first. However the Roscommon County Board should not let the process drag out too much as per previous posts.

letsgetgoing (Roscommon) - Posts: 766 - 25/06/2025 15:21:20    2620990

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Replying To Freethinker:  "I'm not too sure that Oisin has fully grasped the concept of the new rules. Still plays a lot of back and forward around the D. Possession being the priority But then, a lot of teams play a similar style . Kildare v Fermanagh was a case in point on Sunday, after we gifted Limerick our game."
Interesting. I know there can be a certain amount of it that is unavoidable but when a team turns over the ball in their own half or wins an opposition kick out, how they work it from there will show if they are taking advantage of the new rules or not. Roscommon definitely did not.

FullOfPorter (Roscommon) - Posts: 216 - 25/06/2025 16:33:06    2621007

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Replying To letsgetgoing:  "Was Frankie not involved with McConville in Wicklow as coach. (or was it another county)? Interesting if the two management teams swopped. Frankie back to Roscommon with McConville as manager and Davy Burke back to Wicklow.
I would say all his talk is very much remour rather than reality at the moment.
Davy Burke and Roscommon County Board would have to talk to each other about both their intentions first. However the Roscommon County Board should not let the process drag out too much as per previous posts."
Hadn't known that but seems he was. You are right though, it's all pure speculation. Even running with that speculation for a minute, I'd be thinking they would still need a very good coach to come in there if you are trying to compete in Div 1.

FullOfPorter (Roscommon) - Posts: 216 - 25/06/2025 16:36:46    2621010

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Replying To letsgetgoing:  "Was Frankie not involved with McConville in Wicklow as coach. (or was it another county)? Interesting if the two management teams swopped. Frankie back to Roscommon with McConville as manager and Davy Burke back to Wicklow.
I would say all his talk is very much remour rather than reality at the moment.
Davy Burke and Roscommon County Board would have to talk to each other about both their intentions first. However the Roscommon County Board should not let the process drag out too much as per previous posts."
Frankie is or was, depending, part of Oisin's current setup with Wicklow. I think this is his first year as a coach with us, anyway.

Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1705 - 25/06/2025 16:38:18    2621012

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Frankie Dolan joined Wicklow as a coach this year. He was part of the Roscommon U20 management that won Connacht in 2024.

He managed Abbeylara to their first Longford senior crown in 18 years back in October.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 4094 - 25/06/2025 17:44:01    2621049

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Mayo County Board have tonight relieved Kevin McStay and his management team of their duties with immediate effect. Best wishes to Kevin McStay but that's the price of failure in Mayo. Is there any price of failure in Roscommon. Our County Board can answer that one.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2490 - 25/06/2025 21:49:09    2621094

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Replying To FullOfPorter:  "I don't know, if he's packing in the job in Wicklow because of family committments then it seems unlikely he'll come our way? How do Wicklow rate him compared to Burke I wonder? Similar records on paper but McConville is an All Ireland winner and a perennial club winner with Crossmaglen so knows all about the standards that need to be set and I'm sure would instill belief in players.

On Frankie or Dunning? They would need some top coach in with them I would say. I like the idea of Don but don't know if that's possible."
McHugh said the same about leaving roscommon the travel was to much but then took a club job further away. As for mc conville he is an all Ireland winner and my opinion is out at the minute on him. It's very similar on Keith Andrews getting Brentford job. I think mayo are seriously considering him and it could be a brilliant decision. We need to deal with our own situation before we make moves for managers

dave1988 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1279 - 25/06/2025 22:01:54    2621097

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If they are going for an outsider,Andy McEntee is an option. Stepped down from Antrim role

Jack L (None) - Posts: 3164 - 25/06/2025 22:08:49    2621099

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Replying To dave1988:  "McHugh said the same about leaving roscommon the travel was to much but then took a club job further away. As for mc conville he is an all Ireland winner and my opinion is out at the minute on him. It's very similar on Keith Andrews getting Brentford job. I think mayo are seriously considering him and it could be a brilliant decision. We need to deal with our own situation before we make moves for managers"
True. Sorry if this is disrespectful but what exactly is our County board hanging around for? Davys contract is up. Even if he wants to throw his hat in the ring again there isn't a hope in hell of the club's ratifying that.

FullOfPorter (Roscommon) - Posts: 216 - 25/06/2025 22:48:35    2621108

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Replying To endgame:  "Mayo County Board have tonight relieved Kevin McStay and his management team of their duties with immediate effect. Best wishes to Kevin McStay but that's the price of failure in Mayo. Is there any price of failure in Roscommon. Our County Board can answer that one."
Mayo's minimum expectations is to reach All Ireland semi final in any given year. Looks like three strikes and it's out for Mayo management for not reaching that minimum expectations the last three years. The statement "relived from their duties" isn't the best of wording from Mayo county board.

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3667 - 26/06/2025 00:27:40    2621117

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Replying To dave1988:  "McHugh said the same about leaving roscommon the travel was to much but then took a club job further away. As for mc conville he is an all Ireland winner and my opinion is out at the minute on him. It's very similar on Keith Andrews getting Brentford job. I think mayo are seriously considering him and it could be a brilliant decision. We need to deal with our own situation before we make moves for managers"
McHugh jumps from role to role every year. I bet he'll leave Westmeath now after one year.

On McConville it's worth noting Davy Burke did a better job with Wicklow than he did. Many All Ireland winning players on the field have not become great managers. I think Keith Andrews will struggle Brentford

I would expect Mayo to look at either bringing James Horan back, looking to see will Andy Moran leave Monaghan or opt for Austin O'Malley who led Cuala to the All Ireland title this year.

On Roscommon yes first need to deal with your current manager situation and that's up to the county board now that Burke has done his three years.

Drax_the_destroyer (UK) - Posts: 507 - 26/06/2025 00:41:11    2621119

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Very interesting move by Mayo county board last night but not unexpected. Could have been handled a better way but can't fault them for their deciveness and prompt action a lesson our county board could certainly take a note on.

If Ross are going outside I'm not sure Oisin McConville or Andy McEntee are much of an upgrade on the current set up but it will be the level of shelf we would be dealing at. I don't get this hang up about players who have won all itelands in the past given the game is totally different today as to way it was 10/15 years ago. If we are going outside and we know we won't get the top coaches I'd be leaning towards Tony McEntee who is a very experienced coach at this stage following his Sligo stint, allied to his time as coach in Mayo and also his coaching time with Crossmaglen. I felt he stayed a year too long with sligo.

Wr will probably be having same conversation in two months time as it will drag on.

SmokieRoss (Roscommon) - Posts: 281 - 26/06/2025 08:23:48    2621133

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Replying To endgame:  "Mayo County Board have tonight relieved Kevin McStay and his management team of their duties with immediate effect. Best wishes to Kevin McStay but that's the price of failure in Mayo. Is there any price of failure in Roscommon. Our County Board can answer that one."
Whatever we do it needs to be quick. Can't hire someone last minute and expect to compete in division one. I really liked Davy at the start but unfortunately, we regressed under him and I don't think there's an argument for the contrary. There is no way he has earned a new contract so it needs be dealt with swiftly so we can try and focus on next year. A lot of great lad's last bite of the cherry too, so they need to get this one right.

TobeaRossie (Roscommon) - Posts: 166 - 26/06/2025 09:24:48    2621141

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Replying To Drax_the_destroyer:  "McHugh jumps from role to role every year. I bet he'll leave Westmeath now after one year.

On McConville it's worth noting Davy Burke did a better job with Wicklow than he did. Many All Ireland winning players on the field have not become great managers. I think Keith Andrews will struggle Brentford

I would expect Mayo to look at either bringing James Horan back, looking to see will Andy Moran leave Monaghan or opt for Austin O'Malley who led Cuala to the All Ireland title this year.

On Roscommon yes first need to deal with your current manager situation and that's up to the county board now that Burke has done his three years."
Ideally you don't have a manager that has to travel huge distances either. It surely takes its toll after a while unless he is originally from the county but living outside and where passion overules everything.

FullOfPorter (Roscommon) - Posts: 216 - 26/06/2025 12:45:22    2621193

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Replying To TobeaRossie:  "Whatever we do it needs to be quick. Can't hire someone last minute and expect to compete in division one. I really liked Davy at the start but unfortunately, we regressed under him and I don't think there's an argument for the contrary. There is no way he has earned a new contract so it needs be dealt with swiftly so we can try and focus on next year. A lot of great lad's last bite of the cherry too, so they need to get this one right."
Davy Burke was appointed at the end of October, Roscommon was odds on to get relegated yet completed in division one to finish 3rd and just missed out on a league final spot.

Roscommon county board will likely look back on that and think no rush. Or might see Burke as their McGeeney and give him more time?

On another note I see Conor Carroll had transferred to St Brigids.

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3667 - 26/06/2025 14:06:01    2621238

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Replying To Gaa_lover:  "Davy Burke was appointed at the end of October, Roscommon was odds on to get relegated yet completed in division one to finish 3rd and just missed out on a league final spot.

Roscommon county board will likely look back on that and think no rush. Or might see Burke as their McGeeney and give him more time?

On another note I see Conor Carroll had transferred to St Brigids."
Fulfilling his boyhood dream no doubt!!
I see Brids have 4 adult teams in the Championships this year .

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2469 - 26/06/2025 14:42:37    2621253

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Coming to the conclusion of the league and some big games upcoming;

Division 1
Team Played Points
Brigids 10 16
Pearses 10 15
Oran 11 14
R Gaels 10 14
Strokestown 10 12
Boyle 10 11
Clann 10 11
W Gaels 10 10
Dominics 11 8
Castlerea 10 7
Faithleachs 10 4
Glaveys 10 0

The big games are Pearses vs Clann and Castlerea vs Western Gaels. If Pearses avoid defeat in Johnstown they will advance to the league final where Brigids should await assuming they beat Strokestown at home (who themselves have had a very good league). Castlerea need to beat Western Gaels to avoid a relegation playoff against the 3rd place team from Div 2.

Division 2
Team Played Points
Tulsk 11 20
Eire Og 10 14
Elphin 10 14
Creggs 10 13
Brigids B 10 13
S Gaels 10 12
Fuerty 10 10
Michaels 10 10
Pearses B 10 8
Croans 10 4
Kilmore 10 4
Dominics B 11 0

Again there is 2 main games here. Eire Og host Elphin where the winner goes up to Division 1 along with Tulsk. The loser won't even get a playoff spot if Creggs beat Pearses B. At the other end of the table, the loser of Croans vs Kilmore goes down to Division 3 and the winner will have to play a play off.

Division 3
Team Played Points
Strokestown B 10 15
Ballinameen 10 14
Aidans 10 13
Kilbride 10 13
Castlerea B 10 13
W Gaels B 10 11
Josephs 10 9
Kilglass 10 8
Ronans 10 8
Barrys 10 7
R Gaels B 9 5
Boyle B 9 0

2 of the top 5 will go up automatically with Strokestown and Ballinameen in pole position. 3rd spot could come down to points difference and if so then Aidans will get the playoff spot.

Division 4
The Division 4 final was played midweek with Clann B beating Elphin B 4-12 to 2-07. Oran B and Creggs B go down to Division 5.

Ros13 (Roscommon) - Posts: 118 - 26/06/2025 15:37:26    2621284

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