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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "I hope you did the counter Katser double old chap :-)"
Sure did happy days Barney!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15558 - 27/02/2022 20:43:40    2402829

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Replying To Waveitwide:  "Sorry but how can you come to that conclusion,read my reply again,where you are from is after the posters name.You need to park the bus on this one."
Parked lad:-)

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15558 - 27/02/2022 20:44:07    2402830

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Replying To Galway9801:  "Whatever about it being the league, weakened team etc, it was very very poor and nothing positive will come from that performance, only negatives, no expert on body language or anything but I walked past Cathal Mannion on the way out and he looked absolutely disgusted."
Thought TJ Brennan did very well for ye. Was good for UL too. So theres a positive.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15558 - 27/02/2022 20:45:19    2402832

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Replying To bloodyban:  "Ah I don't think Henry is going to mind that performance. I'd say he wasn't pushed about it. He wouldn't want to give Wexford fuel for the championship in Wexford . Now I'm surmising here because if it was a genuine Galway performance it was dire. Back to the garbage of last year and a big step backwards."
It appears hard for them to put big performances back to back

Shocs07 (Limerick) - Posts: 374 - 27/02/2022 21:50:13    2402849

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Replying To bloodyban:  "Pearse Stadium is a soulless place. It's not suitable for hurling, it's too windy and so exposed beside the sea. I think Galway hurling supporters have very little affinity with the place. Id say Galway would be better off selling it and reinvesting the money in Tuam and Athenry."
In fairness Bloodyban our own headquarters is very hard to get out of
With 12,000 at the game yesterday
It was a quarter to seven before we got to the Mackey Roundabout. When you consider that the 'New Bridge'+ and the Tunnel has been added in recent decades this is very poor. I fear the day there is 45,000 there. I always said it should never have been redeveloped there

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4490 - 28/02/2022 07:14:34    2402853

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Replying To ChinCanHurl:  ""Wexford fully deserved their win in fairness even though they are no world beaters themselves"

You could have just complimented your opponent on the win without the dig."
Haha ah ya love to see it
ChinCanHurl (Wexford) - Posts: 115 - 27/02/2022 17:01:00 2402750

It was you being smart with your above comment!

tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3470 - 28/02/2022 09:36:43    2402865

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Replying To Viking66:  "Thought TJ Brennan did very well for ye. Was good for UL too. So theres a positive."
The problem (and it is a very big problem) is that there is a complete lack of pace throughout the current Galway team including Brennan as you mentioned. The likes of Daithi Burke, McInerney, Fintan Burke, Joseph Cooney, Niall Burke etc. are all good hurlers but are not speedsters so they need fast players around them to make them effective. About 20 years ago Galway were known for "small fast nippy" players but not enough strength and bulk to hold onto possession, break tackles etc. Now it is the other way with big lumbering strong players with no speed. Shefflin needs to try to get that balance right if the players are there of course. Injuries to Whelan, Concannon, Shane Cooney, Morrissey and Padraig Mannion yesterday doesn't help either. Ja Mannion is a very fast forward when in possession but is not even on the panel currently.

tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3470 - 28/02/2022 09:54:14    2402871

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Replying To bloodyban:  "Pearse Stadium is a soulless place. It's not suitable for hurling, it's too windy and so exposed beside the sea. I think Galway hurling supporters have very little affinity with the place. Id say Galway would be better off selling it and reinvesting the money in Tuam and Athenry."
With respect Galway GAA need a good pitch in the city. Galway city GAA needs Pearse stadium. There is a university, a GMIT and a lot of clubs in Galway city. They need a place to play.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2611 - 28/02/2022 10:17:46    2402885

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disappointed with yesterday as it rules us out of semifinals if truth be told, Cork and Wexford will progress. Im sure it will be fobbed off as shadow boxing but yesterday was the test for the team, previously beating a Christy ring team and 14 man Limerick still on holiday mode it would have been nice to go 3/3 and maybe go flat against Cork knowing we had took Wexfords place in the Semis. I genuinely didn't know Cathal Mannion was on the field and that's not a pop at him, I don't know when last i saw him so quiet, youd nearly think he was told to stay in the corner & not do any damage ahead of April! Thought Grealish is a find in the corner and i am a fan of Fahy in goals, albeit untested but i thought he did very well v waterford last year and any other starts he got this year. Murphy is too erratic with puc outs at crucial times (yes i am still hurting over 2020 semi final) and itll be the same again come the summer. Fintan should be played at 5 or 7 but im not sure Ado has the pace for 2 or 4 anymore. Thought C Cooney was class, ive mentioned before he has brought his club form into county but ill say it again. Is Whelan out for long? all in all, disappointed with attitude but hoping we'll be playing in a Lenister final this year

CillTormoir (Galway) - Posts: 518 - 28/02/2022 10:24:57    2402890

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Replying To tommy k:  "The problem (and it is a very big problem) is that there is a complete lack of pace throughout the current Galway team including Brennan as you mentioned. The likes of Daithi Burke, McInerney, Fintan Burke, Joseph Cooney, Niall Burke etc. are all good hurlers but are not speedsters so they need fast players around them to make them effective. About 20 years ago Galway were known for "small fast nippy" players but not enough strength and bulk to hold onto possession, break tackles etc. Now it is the other way with big lumbering strong players with no speed. Shefflin needs to try to get that balance right if the players are there of course. Injuries to Whelan, Concannon, Shane Cooney, Morrissey and Padraig Mannion yesterday doesn't help either. Ja Mannion is a very fast forward when in possession but is not even on the panel currently."
I agree pace is very important in the modern game. Our own Matthew O Hanlon bulked up and became huge through the teenies as there was a perception we were too small and light down here to compete with the Kilkennys and Tipps of the time. He has lost bulk over the winter and is noticeably quicker and is having his best season in years so far. Alot of our younger players that were playing in Salthill Saturday are also smaller and faster. These days with a lot more quick short passing there is less need to be a giant who can hold onto the ball for ages. Obviously it's great if you have giants who can cover ground quickly like Limerick do but at the same time 2 of their most effective players, Casey and Lynch, arent excessively big.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15558 - 28/02/2022 10:45:47    2402896

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Replying To tommy k:  "The problem (and it is a very big problem) is that there is a complete lack of pace throughout the current Galway team including Brennan as you mentioned. The likes of Daithi Burke, McInerney, Fintan Burke, Joseph Cooney, Niall Burke etc. are all good hurlers but are not speedsters so they need fast players around them to make them effective. About 20 years ago Galway were known for "small fast nippy" players but not enough strength and bulk to hold onto possession, break tackles etc. Now it is the other way with big lumbering strong players with no speed. Shefflin needs to try to get that balance right if the players are there of course. Injuries to Whelan, Concannon, Shane Cooney, Morrissey and Padraig Mannion yesterday doesn't help either. Ja Mannion is a very fast forward when in possession but is not even on the panel currently."
Yeah well you don't want them 'so fashhht' that they leave the ball behind them on occasions either, which might be an issue for the Ja's and Kilcommins of this world, at tier1 senior intercounty level. Being good enough is very obviously more of a prerequisite than being fast enough.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4118 - 28/02/2022 11:26:29    2402908

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Replying To Viking66:  "I agree pace is very important in the modern game. Our own Matthew O Hanlon bulked up and became huge through the teenies as there was a perception we were too small and light down here to compete with the Kilkennys and Tipps of the time. He has lost bulk over the winter and is noticeably quicker and is having his best season in years so far. Alot of our younger players that were playing in Salthill Saturday are also smaller and faster. These days with a lot more quick short passing there is less need to be a giant who can hold onto the ball for ages. Obviously it's great if you have giants who can cover ground quickly like Limerick do but at the same time 2 of their most effective players, Casey and Lynch, arent excessively big."
They aren't 'excessively big' but you'd still know all about it if you collided with either of them :D

Lynch is a big man who perhaps looks less so because of how he plays and also because he is surrounded by the likes of Hegarty and Gillane in the Limerick attack who would make plenty of players seem smaller than they are.

Power will still have its place in the modern game as it compensates for any errors in short passing execution, if you have an overall power deficit to an opponent your short passing must be on the button every time otherwise the physical hits will just wear you down over time.

It's easy to like what Cork are trying to do but even they have hit the conditioning trail and have woken up to the fact that 'pure hurling' alone isn't going to get the job done.

Stool Pigeon (Galway) - Posts: 906 - 28/02/2022 11:53:32    2402919

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you can talk about pace all you like
But if you cant put the ball over the bar its no good to you
We lost by 6 pts how many wides did we have yesterday unreal
We cant be As bad again surely Henry has lot work to do
Pearse Stadium is becoming a bit of a disaster for Galway teams
How many games have Galway teams lost there now over the years

rhudson (Galway) - Posts: 1478 - 28/02/2022 11:54:54    2402920

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Replying To Stool Pigeon:  "They aren't 'excessively big' but you'd still know all about it if you collided with either of them :D

Lynch is a big man who perhaps looks less so because of how he plays and also because he is surrounded by the likes of Hegarty and Gillane in the Limerick attack who would make plenty of players seem smaller than they are.

Power will still have its place in the modern game as it compensates for any errors in short passing execution, if you have an overall power deficit to an opponent your short passing must be on the button every time otherwise the physical hits will just wear you down over time.

It's easy to like what Cork are trying to do but even they have hit the conditioning trail and have woken up to the fact that 'pure hurling' alone isn't going to get the job done."
Agree S and C is very important especially core strength. It's a drum I've been banging for a long time now. But you dont need to be either 17 stone of muscle or 6 and a half foot tall necessarily.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15558 - 28/02/2022 12:11:01    2402930

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "Yeah well you don't want them 'so fashhht' that they leave the ball behind them on occasions either, which might be an issue for the Ja's and Kilcommins of this world, at tier1 senior intercounty level. Being good enough is very obviously more of a prerequisite than being fast enough."
True also pope and I acknowledge your ecclesiastical knowledge re that particular skill on this occasion!

tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3470 - 28/02/2022 12:12:22    2402932

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Replying To rhudson:  "you can talk about pace all you like
But if you cant put the ball over the bar its no good to you
We lost by 6 pts how many wides did we have yesterday unreal
We cant be As bad again surely Henry has lot work to do
Pearse Stadium is becoming a bit of a disaster for Galway teams
How many games have Galway teams lost there now over the years"
Galway had 12, Wexford had 10.

I think that will improve as weather improves to be fair.

Wexford paudie Foley and Rory o C missed a couple of frees that they'd never have missed on a fine day I feel.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3546 - 28/02/2022 12:26:49    2402937

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Replying To CillTormoir:  "disappointed with yesterday as it rules us out of semifinals if truth be told, Cork and Wexford will progress. Im sure it will be fobbed off as shadow boxing but yesterday was the test for the team, previously beating a Christy ring team and 14 man Limerick still on holiday mode it would have been nice to go 3/3 and maybe go flat against Cork knowing we had took Wexfords place in the Semis. I genuinely didn't know Cathal Mannion was on the field and that's not a pop at him, I don't know when last i saw him so quiet, youd nearly think he was told to stay in the corner & not do any damage ahead of April! Thought Grealish is a find in the corner and i am a fan of Fahy in goals, albeit untested but i thought he did very well v waterford last year and any other starts he got this year. Murphy is too erratic with puc outs at crucial times (yes i am still hurting over 2020 semi final) and itll be the same again come the summer. Fintan should be played at 5 or 7 but im not sure Ado has the pace for 2 or 4 anymore. Thought C Cooney was class, ive mentioned before he has brought his club form into county but ill say it again. Is Whelan out for long? all in all, disappointed with attitude but hoping we'll be playing in a Lenister final this year"
C Cooney was good and is certainly playing better than he was for Galway in the last few years but he also missed 3 - 4 scoreable points from frees and play. Need more efficiency when going for scores.

tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3470 - 28/02/2022 13:00:25    2402952

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Very poor performance with a team backboned by experienced players. Wexford ripped into it, some Galway players living off reputations & did very little. Huge resources been spent on this project, didn't see anything yesterday to justify it.

moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 28/02/2022 13:26:57    2402957

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Replying To moc.dna:  "Very poor performance with a team backboned by experienced players. Wexford ripped into it, some Galway players living off reputations & did very little. Huge resources been spent on this project, didn't see anything yesterday to justify it."
True but the majority are mainly slow, lumbering experienced players with no pace to get back / tackle when the opposition goes past them and that's the problem. Huge areas of space was left in the Galway backline for Wexford forwards to run into yesterday taking easy scores as a result and Cork will pose the same problems next Saturday.

tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3470 - 28/02/2022 13:45:50    2402967

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Replying To Viking66:  "Agree S and C is very important especially core strength. It's a drum I've been banging for a long time now. But you dont need to be either 17 stone of muscle or 6 and a half foot tall necessarily."
No, but such physical specimens are rare anyway, because you ultimately need to be able to hurl first and foremost or you will absolutely be found out.

What will be interesting in the medium term is if Limerick are able to retain their S&C gap to their opposition, and, if so, what impact will it have on the prospects the rest of us have.

Stool Pigeon (Galway) - Posts: 906 - 28/02/2022 13:51:17    2402970

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