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Almost by definition 2 groups of 6 is less competitive than 4 groups of 4 though. You either have top two in each group playing semi finals with presumably the bottom two teams in relegation, leaving 6 teams idle, or you have top 4 in each group qualifying for quarter finals, which is the opposite of 'competitive'. Which way do ye have it in Wexford? Stool Pigeon (Galway) - Posts: 906 - 11/02/2022 15:51:18 2399844 Link 0 |
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Top 4 in each group make QF, bottom in each group in relegation play off and 5th place finished for the year after there 5 group games. Same in hurling and football championships, this was the set up from 2012-2019 and reverted to 4 groups of 3 in the 2 covid effected years, back to 2 groups of 6 this year.
bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 11/02/2022 16:01:46 2399847 Link 0 |
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Of course I'm a high stool supporter. I've never played hurling. Where would I, growing up Florida? I've been to 15-20 GAA games in total in my life. A few big ones, though: 1973 hurling, 1982 football, 1983 football, 1988 football and hurling (the day Noel Lane got that great goal), 1997 and 1998 in footballI and 2007 in hurling. After that, it's really club football in Kerry (well recommended to go watch) and some club hurling in Limerick that I've seen (good over last decade or so…used be a hard watch in the 70's n 80's). I usually watch GAA in the pub though, with a few pints and a few mates. Hurling is a good game to follow; not quite baseball, but not too shabby either. I doubt if you ever played it either, well not to game to any high level anyway. Most good ex-players never bother with online forums. Many are far too busy being involved at grassroots level, with underage teams, etc. to have time to post 1000s of messages on forums. And for the poster who says I should be more subtle, I don't do subtle. I tell it as I see it. Like that or lump it. foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2197 - 11/02/2022 16:52:42 2399853 Link 2 |
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Top 4 in each group play in QFs. Not usually much between the top 8 teams in any given year so all 4 QFs should be very competitive. At the minute in Wexford there wouldnt be a huge gap between any of the 12 teams. Most of the games were close and there were numerous surprise results or at least results that noone could predict. Oulart and Fetgard got relegated which you would have got long odds on at the start of the year. 2 went down and only 1 came up from Intermediate last year to get Senior back to 12 teams. And the format means more games for each club. The main reason I favoured 4 groups of 4 was it would mean more players would get to play against better opponents which would hopefully improve them as players.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15540 - 11/02/2022 17:28:08 2399858 Link 0 |
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Galway team for Saturday katser (Galway) - Posts: 2554 - 11/02/2022 20:24:53 2399875 Link 1 |
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Surprise you the famous ex players on this forum. Not that I'm one of them: D
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15540 - 12/02/2022 07:40:52 2399882 Link 1 |
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Be good to see can Shefflin bring a bit of Kilkenny to you this league. Get your players playing hard for eachother and make a team out of the fine individual hurlers there. If he can you will go well in the championship.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15540 - 12/02/2022 07:43:25 2399883 Link 1 |
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You summed it all up,you comment on Galway hurling after watching a game in a pub after consuming alcohol,and you don't do subtle,is that subtle enough for you.As to go and watch a match in Kerry,are you for real,could you imagine a Galway hurling supporter doing that and then go on there forum telling them how to run their championship,they would have grounds for a new puck goat. You are the one who has close to 1K posts on this page not me.I am involved in the game at every level you have spoke at,and give my time at a national level as well,to promote the game and make sure we have something for the next generation to participate in and enjoy in a safe environment as we did ourselves to continue the best,fastest most skilful game in the world.There are GAA clubs in Florida, no mention you are involved with them,maybe try it.Like that or lump,I couldn't care less.
Waveitwide (Galway) - Posts: 137 - 12/02/2022 08:27:08 2399884 Link 2 |
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Limerick wont have to worry about conceding frees if either of them are on free taking duty. They're both ok at them but nowhere near the level of accuracy needed in the modern game. Your freetaker needs to be 90% + accurate nowadays. I'd prefer see Tom Monaghan on them....I think he's pretty good from what I remember though probably wouldn't have the range for longer distances.
PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 2011 - 12/02/2022 12:02:03 2399904 Link 1 |
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Can't read a lot into last nights results,the sending off had a big affect on it.Very stupid to do it in front of the referee.One thing seems to be happening and that is Henry seems to be getting the best out of Conor and Joseph Cooney and G Mac, and he has to be credited with finding their form again,which seemed to be missing the last few years,fair play to them all, still along way to go but positive signs. Waveitwide (Galway) - Posts: 137 - 13/02/2022 14:04:17 2400094 Link 2 |
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Conor Cooney is a confidence player and his club form has carried into County it seems. I called for Niland on the frees this year, but hard to move Conor from them now if it adds to his general all round play
CillTormoir (Galway) - Posts: 518 - 14/02/2022 09:06:18 2400234 Link 1 |
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My first post in a while. Great to have hurling back and Saturday evenings match was a cracker for a league game. Undoubtedly Henry will and has brought a new dimension to Galway this year, certainly a bit more bite. When in comes to Championship hurling (which most will agree is a different animal) a team will need 19 top quality players to win an All Ireland. Have Galway got that? I don't know. Time will tell. Don't get me wrong Galway are a top 4 team at the moment. Limerick 1, Waterford 2, Cork 3 and Galway 4. I think this year's Championship has the potential to being a cracker. Leinster will be a mine field. Dublin are my dark horse this year in Leinster. Armchairreporter (Galway) - Posts: 100 - 14/02/2022 09:47:21 2400240 Link 1 |
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I get that and it's not for me to criticise the setup, if it works then it works. But the rationale you have is sound. While the 2 x 6 leads to 'more games' there is also less of a premium on results as if you only have to finish 4th of 6 you can carry bad results and still qualify. So it's 'more games' with 'less jeopardy'. Win your first three games then go on holiday until the knockouts :) 16 teams would ultimately lead to a more competitive championship IMO, 12 is an unwieldy number to operate with. It would also be good to have more players exposed to senior club as you suggested. Stool Pigeon (Galway) - Posts: 906 - 14/02/2022 10:59:10 2400268 Link 0 |
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I don't know if I'd put Galway ahead of KK, Tipp, Wexford, etc yet. I hope I'm wrong. But since 2017 Galway have steadily gone backwards. Also with key players retiring who knows who will be starting? I'd be flattered if Galway were Top 4 right now but I just don't see it……YET. Galway Abu.
Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2487 - 14/02/2022 17:58:08 2400370 Link 1 |
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Armchair. I see where you are coming from, but I just think that Limerick, with a few injuries and the Championship starting too early, will run out of road. They may in fact not make it out of Munster. I think your placing of Cork is too high on the food chain and I think that as in 2017 Galway and Waterford may be the last men standing. Waterford at full strength and with Chill's great leadership may just swing. Sorry Armchair if we don't win I would love to see the Blue and White of the Decies flying high. I think they can do it.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4490 - 14/02/2022 19:24:05 2400389 Link 0 |
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Youre right in 99% of cases but Limerick for all their success probably have by far the least accurate free taker of any intercounty team. I thought it would cost them last year but I was well wide of the mark. Just goes to show how far they are ahead when they're close in free taker misses so many easy chances.
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 15/02/2022 12:58:00 2400470 Link 0 |
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I think you are right here to an extent but in fairness to Gillane he tends to improve hugely as the year goes on in the frees. I'd like to know his % rate in croke park in last 4 performances there (2 AI semis and 2 AI finals). I think it might surprise you.
daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 1197 - 15/02/2022 13:50:05 2400488 Link 0 |
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No apart from 2019 we definitely have missed more frees as a percentage than any other top tier county and by a long way.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15540 - 15/02/2022 15:01:38 2400511 Link 0 |
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St Thomas's are the real All Ireland champions this year. They were robbed by Ballyhale Shamrocks who in turn were robbed by the flukey last second goal scored by Ballygunner from distance that Shamrocks keeper Mason should have saved. Such is the luck of the game. We can put it down to the failure of the fat lady to start singing a few seconds earlier. FatLadySinging (Galway) - Posts: 91 - 15/02/2022 15:22:42 2400517 Link 1 |
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Thats the way the luck runs sometimes. For sure St Thomas' could have won, but to say that they are the real All Ireland champions is not really valid.
anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 981 - 15/02/2022 16:29:33 2400530 Link 1 |