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I was at the match on Saturday the conditions under foot were terrible. Players from both sides were slipping when trying to plant their feet and this affected a lot of players first touch, tackling etc.
Galway were trying to match up to Limerick physically and while I believe they have a little bit to work on as regards the accuracy in the tackle, they are not a Dirty Team or "a team with a discipline problem" as Joanne Cantwell puts it. This was not a dirty game, just two committed physical teams going at it.
Hurling is so fast, players have a split second to make a decision, and If I was the coach, I'd rather a player tried the tackle and mistimed it, than didn't try the tackle at all.
I think there are only a few teams who have the ability to mix it with Limerick physically but Galway are one of them. I think they will have a right cut off Leinster this year and who knows where they could go after that
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Replying To LimerickandProud: "I was at the match on Saturday the conditions under foot were terrible. Players from both sides were slipping when trying to plant their feet and this affected a lot of players first touch, tackling etc.
Galway were trying to match up to Limerick physically and while I believe they have a little bit to work on as regards the accuracy in the tackle, they are not a Dirty Team or "a team with a discipline problem" as Joanne Cantwell puts it. This was not a dirty game, just two committed physical teams going at it.
Hurling is so fast, players have a split second to make a decision, and If I was the coach, I'd rather a player tried the tackle and mistimed it, than didn't try the tackle at all.
I think there are only a few teams who have the ability to mix it with Limerick physically but Galway are one of them. I think they will have a right cut off Leinster this year and who knows where they could go after that" Yes I would agree with that. I know Burke's tap with the hurl was in trying to block the pass back from Casey and Tuohy's was a mistimed tackle trying to go shoulder to shoulder. One could argue that Morrissey had a couple of mistimed tackles on Monaghan in the first half and P Mannion in the second half but there has to be a bit of physicality involved.
tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3323 - 19/03/2024 16:39:50
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Score pre throw-in:
Galway 0-8 Limerick 0-0
Same as last year ..
Limerick will start every season game 8 points down plus or minus , except for All- Ireland final 2023 when we won by 9 points due to 1st decent ref.. John Keenan.
Reason reffing , media, prejudiced pundits and Croke Park obsolescent back- office - way overdue for a makeover there.
New championship season.. same old shenanigans by the begrudgers
Not fair to young men who give so much of their time and effort.
Galway lucky to NOT get 3 red cards # 5 , #11 and 1 other?
Henry will be very pleased with today's reffing.
Red card to Shane O'Brien dubious.. who could see through the crowd xcpt for the Clareman , but probably red card.
Free against Gearoid and yellow card? .. for what?? How many times do Limerick players have to turn the other cheek?
Looks like Limerick are still seen as intruders in the parlor of the big three and a few more now. .. Long may it continue
PS Galway need to learn to behave themselves.
PSS: Have since been informed that 3rd Galway RED CARD coulda, shoulda,woulda been to their #8.
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Replying To PatOLogical: "Score pre throw-in:
Galway 0-8 Limerick 0-0
Same as last year ..
Limerick will start every season game 8 points down plus or minus , except for All- Ireland final 2023 when we won by 9 points due to 1st decent ref.. John Keenan.
Reason reffing , media, prejudiced pundits and Croke Park obsolescent back- office - way overdue for a makeover there.
New championship season.. same old shenanigans by the begrudgers
Not fair to young men who give so much of their time and effort.
Galway lucky to NOT get 3 red cards # 5 , #11 and 1 other?
Henry will be very pleased with today's reffing.
Red card to Shane O'Brien dubious.. who could see through the crowd xcpt for the Clareman , but probably red card.
Free against Gearoid and yellow card? .. for what?? How many times do Limerick players have to turn the other cheek?
Looks like Limerick are still seen as intruders in the parlor of the big three and a few more now. .. Long may it continue
PS Galway need to learn to behave themselves.
PSS: Have since been informed that 3rd Galway RED CARD coulda, shoulda,woulda been to their #8." Embarrassing lad.
Byrne retrospectively sent off for striking Jason Flynn 2021.
Gearoid Hegarty sent off for striking Joseph Cooney 2022
Kyle Hayes retrospectively sent off for striking Brian Concannon 2023 (very dirty belt)
Shane O Brien sent off 2024 for ripping the helmet off Sean Linnane.
Difference between Limerick and the rest is when a player from their team do something untoward they are called on it. You are classing a helmet being pulled off as "dubious". Whelan deserved his red against Dublin. Of all the incidents the last day David Burke deserved a red. Didn't like Glennon's pull but the ball was loose and he doubled on it. Player safety should come into it so I would put it as a definite yellow/close to a red. Tuhoy's shoulder? Not for me as it's part of the game. If was given. No complaints. Fraction off but fractions can cause damage.
Limerick have a litany of issues around discipline over the last few years. Think its best ye just get on with it rather than make yourselves out to be "victims" with your "Score pre throw-in"
Took video evidence to get two of your players the bans they deserved against us in the last few years so I don't think refs on the field are causing ye any issues. Keeping these players on the pitch and getting bans after doesn't do a team knocked out of championship any favours.
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Replying To SamandLiamSoon: "Embarrassing lad.
Byrne retrospectively sent off for striking Jason Flynn 2021.
Gearoid Hegarty sent off for striking Joseph Cooney 2022
Kyle Hayes retrospectively sent off for striking Brian Concannon 2023 (very dirty belt)
Shane O Brien sent off 2024 for ripping the helmet off Sean Linnane.
Difference between Limerick and the rest is when a player from their team do something untoward they are called on it. You are classing a helmet being pulled off as "dubious". Whelan deserved his red against Dublin. Of all the incidents the last day David Burke deserved a red. Didn't like Glennon's pull but the ball was loose and he doubled on it. Player safety should come into it so I would put it as a definite yellow/close to a red. Tuhoy's shoulder? Not for me as it's part of the game. If was given. No complaints. Fraction off but fractions can cause damage.
Limerick have a litany of issues around discipline over the last few years. Think its best ye just get on with it rather than make yourselves out to be "victims" with your "Score pre throw-in"
Took video evidence to get two of your players the bans they deserved against us in the last few years so I don't think refs on the field are causing ye any issues. Keeping these players on the pitch and getting bans after doesn't do a team knocked out of championship any favours." Amazing that you are looking back for evidence. The discussion was based on Saturday's match. If you think that the ref was fair then you are as deluded as your name seems to suggest. I know it's hard to take that Limerick (14 men) remain unbeaten without any home games. As for Shane O' Brien incident he was reacting to the pull across Cian Lynch's ankle which was never dealt with either. A heat of the moment thing and not the cynical type of foul that required a HIA.
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Replying To SamandLiamSoon: "Embarrassing lad.
Byrne retrospectively sent off for striking Jason Flynn 2021.
Gearoid Hegarty sent off for striking Joseph Cooney 2022
Kyle Hayes retrospectively sent off for striking Brian Concannon 2023 (very dirty belt)
Shane O Brien sent off 2024 for ripping the helmet off Sean Linnane.
Difference between Limerick and the rest is when a player from their team do something untoward they are called on it. You are classing a helmet being pulled off as "dubious". Whelan deserved his red against Dublin. Of all the incidents the last day David Burke deserved a red. Didn't like Glennon's pull but the ball was loose and he doubled on it. Player safety should come into it so I would put it as a definite yellow/close to a red. Tuhoy's shoulder? Not for me as it's part of the game. If was given. No complaints. Fraction off but fractions can cause damage.
Limerick have a litany of issues around discipline over the last few years. Think its best ye just get on with it rather than make yourselves out to be "victims" with your "Score pre throw-in"
Took video evidence to get two of your players the bans they deserved against us in the last few years so I don't think refs on the field are causing ye any issues. Keeping these players on the pitch and getting bans after doesn't do a team knocked out of championship any favours." Intersteing to note (but no trally on further reeflection) that Henry Shefflin had serious question aboty referreing in dublin Galway game but no objection s to referreing of lack of it in Galway Limerick game. On further reflection it makes perfect sense when we consider that Henry is product of the Brian in Cody school "keep the whistle in your pocketref , when it's my team, which Brian sublimely preached for over a decade. Now , its not so nice when the shoe is on the other foot. Perhaps we need to say "sauce for the good is sauce for the gander. Also goes without saying Henry in his third year year needs to come upmwith silverwqr or alibis. A lot to chew on there for our friend "Kathy" Katser and co...agus faighimid siud......
PatOLogical (Limerick) - Posts: 1359 - 20/03/2024 19:47:41
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Replying To PatOLogical: "Intersteing to note (but no trally on further reeflection) that Henry Shefflin had serious question aboty referreing in dublin Galway game but no objection s to referreing of lack of it in Galway Limerick game. On further reflection it makes perfect sense when we consider that Henry is product of the Brian in Cody school "keep the whistle in your pocketref , when it's my team, which Brian sublimely preached for over a decade. Now , its not so nice when the shoe is on the other foot. Perhaps we need to say "sauce for the good is sauce for the gander. Also goes without saying Henry in his third year year needs to come upmwith silverwqr or alibis. A lot to chew on there for our friend "Kathy" Katser and co...agus faighimid siud......" Sorry for typos .. done on on the fly but should have proofread before posting.
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U20s out in two weeks time in championship against Offaly. Bit of a strange format with only three teams in each group. Hard to know what to make of a challenge matches but I'd be a bit worried that I saw Rory Burke at centre back in a challenge match against Cork. They have heaps of good forwards on the team but they don't need one of their better ones going back the field to fill a gap. It's a big year at this grade as it's about time we won an all ireland at this level and they will certainly have the firepower to do it.
galway19 (Galway) - Posts: 675 - 21/03/2024 07:38:49
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Replying To aloneitstands: "Amazing that you are looking back for evidence. The discussion was based on Saturday's match. If you think that the ref was fair then you are as deluded as your name seems to suggest. I know it's hard to take that Limerick (14 men) remain unbeaten without any home games. As for Shane O' Brien incident he was reacting to the pull across Cian Lynch's ankle which was never dealt with either. A heat of the moment thing and not the cynical type of foul that required a HIA." You don't have to look too far back for the evidence either. Now you and 1 or 2 others don't like it, but instead of claiming Galway have a 'discipline' problem, you should look a lot closer to home.
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Replying To aloneitstands: "Amazing that you are looking back for evidence. The discussion was based on Saturday's match. If you think that the ref was fair then you are as deluded as your name seems to suggest. I know it's hard to take that Limerick (14 men) remain unbeaten without any home games. As for Shane O' Brien incident he was reacting to the pull across Cian Lynch's ankle which was never dealt with either. A heat of the moment thing and not the cynical type of foul that required a HIA." Look back for evidence of discipline problems in your county? Look at today's or yesterday's newspaper.
baire (Galway) - Posts: 1804 - 22/03/2024 08:32:40
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Replying To Ailteoir: "You don't have to look too far back for the evidence either. Now you and 1 or 2 others don't like it, but instead of claiming Galway have a 'discipline' problem, you should look a lot closer to home." I never said that Galway had a discipline issue. You are being very vague. As I already mentioned the discussion was in relation to Galway v Limerick March 16th. If you are referring to other matters (off the field) do you feel there should be collective blame." We will bring them down anyway we can". The media can't get enough of repeating the same story over and over. I wonder why? We have the best manager ever in Limerick and we are so lucky.
aloneitstands (Limerick) - Posts: 64 - 22/03/2024 09:10:13
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Replying To aloneitstands: "I never said that Galway had a discipline issue. You are being very vague. As I already mentioned the discussion was in relation to Galway v Limerick March 16th. If you are referring to other matters (off the field) do you feel there should be collective blame." We will bring them down anyway we can". The media can't get enough of repeating the same story over and over. I wonder why? We have the best manager ever in Limerick and we are so lucky." This is the question that sparked the discussion re indiscipline on this thread:
"Is their a concern in Galway that indiscipline will catch them out later in the year?"
Shocs07 (Limerick) - Posts: 370 - 17/03/2024 14:26:49
Such an insinuation from a Limerick poster is bit rich to say the least. Time to move on.
baire (Galway) - Posts: 1804 - 22/03/2024 10:39:01
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Replying To aloneitstands: "I never said that Galway had a discipline issue. You are being very vague. As I already mentioned the discussion was in relation to Galway v Limerick March 16th. If you are referring to other matters (off the field) do you feel there should be collective blame." We will bring them down anyway we can". The media can't get enough of repeating the same story over and over. I wonder why? We have the best manager ever in Limerick and we are so lucky." You responded to my post. I was responding to a Limerick poster who said "Galway need to learn to behave"
I pointed out discipline seems to be an issue with Limerick as much as Galway and maybe those in glass houses etc.
If you would like to refer to the 16th I'm happy to do so. One issue I would have in that game and I apologie that I have to go back to the history books but in 2021 your wonderful manager made derogatory comments about Galway after a league game stating we were diving and were feigning injury. A few days later after reviewing the match he had to come out with his tail between his legs and apologise that the thuggery that he doubted happened had in fact taken place.
So pray tell me why Kiely wasn't out front and centre condemning the disgraceful act of simulation by Casey when hit in the shoulder he goes down and starts rolling around holding his face? Strange the silence after it.
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Replying To SamandLiamSoon: "You responded to my post. I was responding to a Limerick poster who said "Galway need to learn to behave"
I pointed out discipline seems to be an issue with Limerick as much as Galway and maybe those in glass houses etc.
If you would like to refer to the 16th I'm happy to do so. One issue I would have in that game and I apologie that I have to go back to the history books but in 2021 your wonderful manager made derogatory comments about Galway after a league game stating we were diving and were feigning injury. A few days later after reviewing the match he had to come out with his tail between his legs and apologise that the thuggery that he doubted happened had in fact taken place.
So pray tell me why Kiely wasn't out front and centre condemning the disgraceful act of simulation by Casey when hit in the shoulder he goes down and starts rolling around holding his face? Strange the silence after it." First of all I'm glad you agree with me that John is a wonderful manager. As for PeterCasey going down he was hit in the chest with the pole of the hurley, pretty sure if this was the other way round straight red for Limerick. I was at the match and have seen it in full since. Galway'sP. little plan didn't come off for ye at the weekend, this is supposed to be their home game and we'll show them, whatever it takes!! P.S. drop the dramatic words e.g. ripping a helmet, and thuggery, it only shows how much you're hurting..
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Congratulations to Gort Community School on their win yesterday in the U18 Community schools All Ireland Final against Portumna.
Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2120 - 22/03/2024 13:42:10
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Can everyone just move on and look forward to 2024 championship..all counties can name incidents where such and such should have been done..
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Replying To SamandLiamSoon: "You responded to my post. I was responding to a Limerick poster who said "Galway need to learn to behave"
I pointed out discipline seems to be an issue with Limerick as much as Galway and maybe those in glass houses etc.
If you would like to refer to the 16th I'm happy to do so. One issue I would have in that game and I apologie that I have to go back to the history books but in 2021 your wonderful manager made derogatory comments about Galway after a league game stating we were diving and were feigning injury. A few days later after reviewing the match he had to come out with his tail between his legs and apologise that the thuggery that he doubted happened had in fact taken place.
So pray tell me why Kiely wasn't out front and centre condemning the disgraceful act of simulation by Casey when hit in the shoulder he goes down and starts rolling around holding his face? Strange the silence after it." What happened to your last post, it seems to have disappeared?
baire (Galway) - Posts: 1804 - 23/03/2024 10:29:24
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Replying To baire: "What happened to your last post, it seems to have disappeared?" Only one narrative allowed around here. And it's not a Galway one. Uncomfortable truths don't suit a certain faction.
SamandLiamSoon (Galway) - Posts: 591 - 23/03/2024 11:56:04
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Since Johnathan Glynn didn't play any League Matches is it realistic that he will start come Championship time?
Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2120 - 23/03/2024 11:57:36
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