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Replying To katser: "Best of Luck to St.Thomas' today v Ballygunner. It should be a great game and hopefully Thomas' win it by a few points." Not like you to support a South Galway club katser. Are you feeling ok lately? lol tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3470 - 19/12/2023 16:06:46 2517406 Link
Replying To PoolSturgeon: "I think the odds on the match will tighten as we get closer to the game. It's a bit mad that Thomas's are odds on favourites. It's a finely balanced contest imo. Tom's picked up a good few injuries on Saturday. Will they all heal up in the 4 weeks? Also in extra time Toms brought on players as subs to replace players who had previously subbed them. It doesnt indicate that there is much depth to the squad outside the first 15. It's a game that could go either way I think." Im not sure any club team even at this level have much depth off the bench, good players but at this level off the bench will USUALLY (please dont slate me) be a fair aul step down. The_DOC (Galway) - Posts: 734 - 19/12/2023 16:26:53 2517408 Link
Replying To PoolSturgeon: "I think the odds on the match will tighten as we get closer to the game. It's a bit mad that Thomas's are odds on favourites. It's a finely balanced contest imo. Tom's picked up a good few injuries on Saturday. Will they all heal up in the 4 weeks? Also in extra time Toms brought on players as subs to replace players who had previously subbed them. It doesnt indicate that there is much depth to the squad outside the first 15. It's a game that could go either way I think." Was it last year that Toms made no substitutions at all v Dunloy? Perhaps it was the year before. Either way it's not a new thing Stool Pigeon (Galway) - Posts: 889 - 19/12/2023 19:26:57 2517427 Link
Replying To The_DOC: "Im not sure any club team even at this level have much depth off the bench, good players but at this level off the bench will USUALLY (please dont slate me) be a fair aul step down." Ballygunner have a lower level county level panel and winning every division/age group in Waterford and didn't use a sub till extra time. Tbh I don't think anyone on either side was playing too poorly either, was a great game. If anything Thomas's seemed to use their panel better than Ballygunner. O'Loughlins have a tight enough squad too but so did Ballyhale. If you can avoid injuries at club level its as good as having a big panel...probably Thomas's first time to have a full hand to pick from over the last 6 years. Ballyhale had injuries this year and it caught them too. Even at county level no one has a that luxury, even Limerick havent really added anyone new to the team bar maybe Cathal O'Neill but it's the same 17/18 guys since 18 Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin (Wexford) - Posts: 274 - 20/12/2023 10:13:08 2517459 Link
Replying To Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin: "Ballygunner have a lower level county level panel and winning every division/age group in Waterford and didn't use a sub till extra time. Tbh I don't think anyone on either side was playing too poorly either, was a great game. If anything Thomas's seemed to use their panel better than Ballygunner. O'Loughlins have a tight enough squad too but so did Ballyhale. If you can avoid injuries at club level its as good as having a big panel...probably Thomas's first time to have a full hand to pick from over the last 6 years. Ballyhale had injuries this year and it caught them too. Even at county level no one has a that luxury, even Limerick havent really added anyone new to the team bar maybe Cathal O'Neill but it's the same 17/18 guys since 18" David Reidy started the final this year. A few of the subs weren't around in 2018 either. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13341 - 20/12/2023 15:01:10 2517483 Link
If Daithi wasn't around, Shane and Fintan would pretty easily be 3 and 6 for Galway. They will both be starting for the county regardless next year. If that centre line along with Sherry, John Headd and Cian Mahoney doesn't stop that O'Loughlin Gaels forward line I'll eat my hat. Conor Cooney, Regan, David Burke and Eanna will do enough to drive the rest of them. They should be 4/9 to lift the cup not 4/6. End of. I'll see ye after they win it in January. galway19 (Galway) - Posts: 764 - 21/12/2023 00:13:44 2517513 Link
Bit early to picking a team for next year but I'll have a go at it. 1.Eanna Murphy 2.Jack Grealish 3.Fintan Burke 4.Darren Morrissey 5.Padraig Mannion 6.Daithi Burke 7.Shane Cooney 8.Cathal Mannion 9.Tiernan Killen 10.Ronan Glennon 11.Cianan Fahy 12.Kevin Cooney 13.Conor Whelan 14.Brian Concannon 15.Evan Niland Think Shefflin needs to make changes next year he may put Daithi back to FB and play Shane Cooney CB and Fintan Burke at 7. More players need to start pushing the others though the likes of Donal O'Shea, Martin Mcmanus, Greg Thomas, Alex Connaire, Eoin Lawless etc. I really hope that Eamon O'Shea coaching can benefit players like Jason Flynn and Kevin Cooney. Maroonforever (Galway) - Posts: 414 - 21/12/2023 12:13:17 2517555 Link
Replying To galway19: "If Daithi wasn't around, Shane and Fintan would pretty easily be 3 and 6 for Galway. They will both be starting for the county regardless next year. If that centre line along with Sherry, John Headd and Cian Mahoney doesn't stop that O'Loughlin Gaels forward line I'll eat my hat. Conor Cooney, Regan, David Burke and Eanna will do enough to drive the rest of them. They should be 4/9 to lift the cup not 4/6. End of. I'll see ye after they win it in January." Presume you have invested heavily on it so....hundreds or thousands? PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1946 - 21/12/2023 12:31:00 2517557 Link
Replying To Galway9801: "I've only watched two OLG games, the leinster final and the all Ireland semi final, and it was their efficiency in front of goal, as opposed to defence or midfield, that more than anything seemed to get them over the line" I think the OLG forwards are underrated - from what I saw they are all well able to hurl and can catch aerial ball under pressure like most KK teams. They missed at least 6 goal scoring chances against Cushendall but it was no fluke that they made those chances. Also some of their halfbacks like Deegan and Fogarty can take scores at key times making them very dangerous opponents. Lawlor and Butler will always be difficult to break down at the back so Toms have been warned about what they can do. tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3470 - 21/12/2023 13:27:30 2517564 Link
Replying To Maroonforever: "Bit early to picking a team for next year but I'll have a go at it. 1.Eanna Murphy 2.Jack Grealish 3.Fintan Burke 4.Darren Morrissey 5.Padraig Mannion 6.Daithi Burke 7.Shane Cooney 8.Cathal Mannion 9.Tiernan Killen 10.Ronan Glennon 11.Cianan Fahy 12.Kevin Cooney 13.Conor Whelan 14.Brian Concannon 15.Evan Niland Think Shefflin needs to make changes next year he may put Daithi back to FB and play Shane Cooney CB and Fintan Burke at 7. More players need to start pushing the others though the likes of Donal O'Shea, Martin Mcmanus, Greg Thomas, Alex Connaire, Eoin Lawless etc. I really hope that Eamon O'Shea coaching can benefit players like Jason Flynn and Kevin Cooney." Compare that half forward line to Limerick & Kilkenny. We are nowhere near winning it. MapleSyrup (Galway) - Posts: 165 - 21/12/2023 14:07:19 2517568 Link
Replying To Maroonforever: "Bit early to picking a team for next year but I'll have a go at it. 1.Eanna Murphy 2.Jack Grealish 3.Fintan Burke 4.Darren Morrissey 5.Padraig Mannion 6.Daithi Burke 7.Shane Cooney 8.Cathal Mannion 9.Tiernan Killen 10.Ronan Glennon 11.Cianan Fahy 12.Kevin Cooney 13.Conor Whelan 14.Brian Concannon 15.Evan Niland Think Shefflin needs to make changes next year he may put Daithi back to FB and play Shane Cooney CB and Fintan Burke at 7. More players need to start pushing the others though the likes of Donal O'Shea, Martin Mcmanus, Greg Thomas, Alex Connaire, Eoin Lawless etc. I really hope that Eamon O'Shea coaching can benefit players like Jason Flynn and Kevin Cooney." Much the same team as last year, except that players like Fintan and Shane Cooney are riding 'high in the market' just now, despite having 'difficulties' at intercounty level in the past, the recent past even. If Killeen is a better midfielder than David Burke in 2024, that will be a notable milestone for the young man. All in all, no reason in the world to think that side would lay a glove on Limerick. Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3830 - 21/12/2023 17:26:11 2517578 Link
Replying To Pope_Benedict: "Much the same team as last year, except that players like Fintan and Shane Cooney are riding 'high in the market' just now, despite having 'difficulties' at intercounty level in the past, the recent past even. If Killeen is a better midfielder than David Burke in 2024, that will be a notable milestone for the young man. All in all, no reason in the world to think that side would lay a glove on Limerick." Hate to say it but I agree Maroonforever (Galway) - Posts: 414 - 21/12/2023 22:27:24 2517598 Link
Replying To tommy k: "I think the OLG forwards are underrated - from what I saw they are all well able to hurl and can catch aerial ball under pressure like most KK teams. They missed at least 6 goal scoring chances against Cushendall but it was no fluke that they made those chances. Also some of their halfbacks like Deegan and Fogarty can take scores at key times making them very dangerous opponents. Lawlor and Butler will always be difficult to break down at the back so Toms have been warned about what they can do." Lawlor, Butler and Deegans experience in defence will huge in Croke Park for OLG. All 6 of their backs are very good if truth be told especially young Jordan Molloy number 7. All Kilkennys teams are very hard to beat in a final in Croker. I still think it's their for St Thomas, the way they hurled against Ballygunanr was exceptional especially at winning the rucks. Past hurler (None) - Posts: 791 - 22/12/2023 00:03:20 2517605 Link
Replying To Past hurler: "Lawlor, Butler and Deegans experience in defence will huge in Croke Park for OLG. All 6 of their backs are very good if truth be told especially young Jordan Molloy number 7. All Kilkennys teams are very hard to beat in a final in Croker. I still think it's their for St Thomas, the way they hurled against Ballygunanr was exceptional especially at winning the rucks." Thought Fogarty at 5 was excellent too. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13341 - 22/12/2023 08:52:22 2517614 Link
Are there any players that anyone would like to see get a run out for Galway during the walsh cup and league?. Maroonforever (Galway) - Posts: 414 - 22/12/2023 09:43:27 2517626 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Thought Fogarty at 5 was excellent too." Yes Thomas's will be up against it definitely. tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3470 - 22/12/2023 12:39:44 2517634 Link
Replying To tommy k: "Yes Thomas's will be up against it definitely." I still have Tom's as favourites if they are mentally right for the game. OLG, like all Kilkenny teams, will be. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13341 - 22/12/2023 18:32:26 2517653 Link
Replying To Maroonforever: "Bit early to picking a team for next year but I'll have a go at it. 1.Eanna Murphy 2.Jack Grealish 3.Fintan Burke 4.Darren Morrissey 5.Padraig Mannion 6.Daithi Burke 7.Shane Cooney 8.Cathal Mannion 9.Tiernan Killen 10.Ronan Glennon 11.Cianan Fahy 12.Kevin Cooney 13.Conor Whelan 14.Brian Concannon 15.Evan Niland Think Shefflin needs to make changes next year he may put Daithi back to FB and play Shane Cooney CB and Fintan Burke at 7. More players need to start pushing the others though the likes of Donal O'Shea, Martin Mcmanus, Greg Thomas, Alex Connaire, Eoin Lawless etc. I really hope that Eamon O'Shea coaching can benefit players like Jason Flynn and Kevin Cooney." Still not convinced about Murphy in goal, Grealish, Glennon, Fahy and Niland as they have not been consistent enough or in the crunch games. To take on Limerick's strength / physicality the likes of J, Cooney, C. Cooney, C. Mannion and Flynn are still required. Other players such as Tuohy and David Burke from the more experienced players would be welcome additions as well as possibly Jamie Ryan, McManus, Killeen, O'Hanlon and Fleming from the newer crew. tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3470 - 22/12/2023 19:39:20 2517662 Link
Replying To Viking66: "I still have Tom's as favourites if they are mentally right for the game. OLG, like all Kilkenny teams, will be." Yes the mental side of things will be an issue for Toms - I agree with you! tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3470 - 22/12/2023 20:00:44 2517664 Link
Replying To Maroonforever: "Bit early to picking a team for next year but I'll have a go at it. 1.Eanna Murphy 2.Jack Grealish 3.Fintan Burke 4.Darren Morrissey 5.Padraig Mannion 6.Daithi Burke 7.Shane Cooney 8.Cathal Mannion 9.Tiernan Killen 10.Ronan Glennon 11.Cianan Fahy 12.Kevin Cooney 13.Conor Whelan 14.Brian Concannon 15.Evan Niland Think Shefflin needs to make changes next year he may put Daithi back to FB and play Shane Cooney CB and Fintan Burke at 7. More players need to start pushing the others though the likes of Donal O'Shea, Martin Mcmanus, Greg Thomas, Alex Connaire, Eoin Lawless etc. I really hope that Eamon O'Shea coaching can benefit players like Jason Flynn and Kevin Cooney." Still not convinced about Murphy in goal, Grealish, Glennon, Fahy and Niland as they have not been consistent enough or go missing especially in the crunch games. To take on Limerick's strength / physicality the likes of J. Cooney, C. Cooney, C. Mannion and Flynn are still required. Other players such as Tuohy and David Burke from the more experienced players would be welcome additions as well as possibly Jamie Ryan, McManus, Killeen, O'Hanlon and Fleming from the newer crew. tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3470 - 22/12/2023 20:06:57 2517666 Link