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2022 Wexford Intercounty Hurling

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A wet evening might not be good for our lads but it will be the same for both teams. Hope we can get over the line and give us a big boost after a few weeks of turbulence.

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1923 - 09/05/2022 11:25:12    2415856

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "A wet evening might not be good for our lads but it will be the same for both teams. Hope we can get over the line and give us a big boost after a few weeks of turbulence."
I think the rain is due to clear hopefully before the game . A big performance will be needed to compete with Kilkenny . Hopefully the lads can produce it

Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 09/05/2022 12:52:36    2415919

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Best of luck to the lads tonight, can't make it as I had to change my flights home last minute. Hope they turn KK over and bring home some silverware, would bring a feel good factor back to the county after a bad start to the campaign by the seniors.

Fulgrim (Wexford) - Posts: 270 - 09/05/2022 13:41:22    2415940

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Replying To Afinestick:  "I think the rain is due to clear hopefully before the game . A big performance will be needed to compete with Kilkenny . Hopefully the lads can produce it"
Good. Still, I don't know what Carlow like these days but it used to be a ground which didn't get rid of water well.

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1923 - 09/05/2022 14:41:07    2415974

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I see the same team has been picked that beat Dublin, which is no surprise. Although i thought Kinsella mght have started. He looked good when coming on the last day.
To be honest i don't think we'll beat Kilkenny tonight, based on the two semi finals. The intensity was far greater in the Kilkenny v Galway game and their physique and height will be an advantage.
High ball into the forwards may not be the best plan as they will be better in the ariel battles.
We do have good players in Scallan,Molloy, AJ Redmond, Dunbar, Jack Redmond and Cian Byrne.
Hopefully we can stay with them and prevent them from scoring goals but i really don't think we have enough forward power to win this game. I sincerely hope i am very wrong.

Samson55 (Wexford) - Posts: 103 - 09/05/2022 14:56:51    2415983

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Replying To Formertownie:  "Could part of the problem be that at underage level dev squads are actually detrimental to player development . Most if not all managers at this level are also starting out in their management careers and need success to put them in the shop windows for lucrative club or county roles . Therefore success might be just more important than actual player development. Really the players are just part of their big plan and can become collateral damage along the road. Success at county underage level for a manager may just get them that better expenses/bonus paying gig. Player welfare and development become secondary to success .
Coaching officers and player liason officers and someone to watch and monitor players development within the set up snd I m sure all clubs would be more than willing for someone to come in and possibly monitor the same elements of development .
I think the success and professional approach to Gaa needs to be brought right down to grass roots level to develop all players equally with the afore mention officers being savvy enough to see what's needed . A blueprint of what's needed drawn up and be fluid enough to adapt as its needed.
Skills
Strenght and conditioning
Athletism
Mindfulness
And all others attributes needed for both codes .
We can't just focus on the here and now.
It all has to fit into a bigger development plan for future development of our county .
Would need to be reviewed strenuously every year and change what's not working and have the balls to clear out any deadwood not doing their role .
I think managerial expenses have made gaa more about toatal success for egos than actual player welfare and development. I really could never imagine myself training or managing a team to actually beat my home county or club . How anyone can do it is beyond me . Is it about improving the games or financial reward I m sure there is a proportion of both but the split is unknown ."
Never been a fan of the development squads as longer term I believe it reduces the number of kids that stay in the game. Here is a thought - do away with all underage inter county bar U20. Now what counties are forced to do is turn to two places to develop players - Clubs and Secondary Schools. Focusing on development in Schools ensures that you hit the widest possible population and you are bringing along more kids who untimely continue to play longer.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 2036 - 09/05/2022 15:34:12    2416006

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Heading up to carlow tonight weather is atrocious so will be a bit of a lottery could be decided by a slip or a ball dropping out of a keepers hand so best of luck to both sets of players tonight hope they give us a leinster final to be proud of with a wexford win hopefully.

Tiger1 (Wexford) - Posts: 410 - 09/05/2022 16:57:18    2416043

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6 minutes in and we getting robbed already.

Want to pick it up a bit all the same

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3875 - 09/05/2022 19:38:38    2416064

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Sick to death of our lads being treated like this at every grade

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3875 - 09/05/2022 20:50:49    2416076

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How did we lose that, sickening, kk always just do bare enough to get over the line against us. Sick of it. Another Leinster final thrown away tonight. Plenty of positives but too sick to talk about it now.

hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 1150 - 09/05/2022 20:56:00    2416081

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Replying To Samson55:  "I see the same team has been picked that beat Dublin, which is no surprise. Although i thought Kinsella mght have started. He looked good when coming on the last day.
To be honest i don't think we'll beat Kilkenny tonight, based on the two semi finals. The intensity was far greater in the Kilkenny v Galway game and their physique and height will be an advantage.
High ball into the forwards may not be the best plan as they will be better in the ariel battles.
We do have good players in Scallan,Molloy, AJ Redmond, Dunbar, Jack Redmond and Cian Byrne.
Hopefully we can stay with them and prevent them from scoring goals but i really don't think we have enough forward power to win this game. I sincerely hope i am very wrong."
The lads have Kilkenny plenty of it tonight and if that game went on for 10 minutes more Wexfodd would have won.

Kilkenny well on top in the first half bar the last mind but by God there was some fight in them Wexford lads in the second half.

Hooking, blocking, shouldering Christ I am in great form going to bed even though I am disappointed they didn't snatch a draw at the end through young Redmond who had a great game.

Past hurler (None) - Posts: 975 - 09/05/2022 21:14:34    2416083

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Sickened. We just lack composure at the right times, that's the difference. Too slow a start cost us as well. Took us 20 minutes to get going but we were a better team from then on IMO. Just gutted. How do they do this though! Outhurled for large portions of the game and they still pull it out!

Anyway I really like this crop of players. Arguably all 6 of our backs could be our backline for the senior panel one day, which is a fantastic return. Ritchie Lawlor looks like he could be a superstar while Jack Redmond looks decent as well. If you at our two underage teams, the minor forwards looking good while the U20 backline are a serious prospect. Put them together and we might be onto something.

Well done and hard luck to the lads tonight. Better team lost but how many times have we said that against Kilkenny.

Finchfurlong996 (Wexford) - Posts: 255 - 09/05/2022 21:22:18    2416084

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Gutted but proud

Yellow (Wexford) - Posts: 589 - 09/05/2022 21:44:34    2416090

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Very game effort from the U20s, unfortunate not to get a draw at the death. First 15 minutes of the game probably cost us in the end, Kilkenny pretty much won every singly physical battle and dirty ball in the first quarter. If there is one consolation, it is that a lot more of those Kilkenny lads were filled out than the Wexford lads. If those Wexford lads do fill out over the next few years, an awful lot of the side today are going to make their mark as Wexford Seniors. Would've thought coming into the year that this was going to be one of our better U20 sides given that we won Leinster Minor three years ago. Going into today, I would've thought that Conor Foley, AJ Redmond, Conor Molloy, Kyle Scallan, Darragh Carley, Richie Lawlor, Corey Byrne-Dunbar, Oisín Pepper, and Cian Byrne all stood good chances of being Senior starters in the future. Now some of them didn't have the best night tonight but I'd still back them to learn from this and to physically develop from now onwards. Wexford may have lost the battle tonight but we certainly have a lot to look forward to with this U20 crop

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 618 - 09/05/2022 21:49:03    2416092

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Really well done and hard luck to our u20s. Some great performances all over the pitch. AJ, Barrett, Molloy, Foley, Scallan, Lawlor, Jack Redmond all played very well while Cian Byrne was good at the frees too. Great heart, tackling, running and passing especially in the last quarter the lads were by far the better team. Overall it was a good team performance with everyone doing their bit. Shame it came up just short. A matter of inches. I'd have fancied our chances had it gone to extra time.
Some of these lads might make a contribution to the senior panel now the u20s is finished. Certainly there will be a number of these lads make the step up to Senior over the next couple of years. Real feel of the early 90s this season across the grades. Losing matches by the odd point or two. Hopefully it leads on to the same end.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16772 - 10/05/2022 07:51:24    2416098

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Tough night last night but a very proud Dad of this group of young men and how they responded this year collectively after last year. Some really bright signs for wexford hurling for the future and really tough on Jack at the end. Early non start killed us but showed real fighting spirit to get back in the contest. Thought our line were slow to react at the start and make changes when needed but players did respond. You'd imagine Limerick based on last week will be overwhelming favourites.

96andproud (Wexford) - Posts: 34 - 10/05/2022 09:08:24    2416107

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "Very game effort from the U20s, unfortunate not to get a draw at the death. First 15 minutes of the game probably cost us in the end, Kilkenny pretty much won every singly physical battle and dirty ball in the first quarter. If there is one consolation, it is that a lot more of those Kilkenny lads were filled out than the Wexford lads. If those Wexford lads do fill out over the next few years, an awful lot of the side today are going to make their mark as Wexford Seniors. Would've thought coming into the year that this was going to be one of our better U20 sides given that we won Leinster Minor three years ago. Going into today, I would've thought that Conor Foley, AJ Redmond, Conor Molloy, Kyle Scallan, Darragh Carley, Richie Lawlor, Corey Byrne-Dunbar, Oisín Pepper, and Cian Byrne all stood good chances of being Senior starters in the future. Now some of them didn't have the best night tonight but I'd still back them to learn from this and to physically develop from now onwards. Wexford may have lost the battle tonight but we certainly have a lot to look forward to with this U20 crop"
Heartbreaking loss last night . We did enough to win that game. Wides killed us. I'd agree that a lot more Kilkenny lads had filled out. Why is it in Wexford we have such a problem with S & C of our underage teams? The only area Kilkenny had an advantage over us last night was physically and aerially particularly around their half back line they had huge men. It's so frustrating we had the hurling to beat them last night. Feel sorry for Jack Redmond he had a good game overall

Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 10/05/2022 09:44:56    2416115

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Replying To 96andproud:  "Tough night last night but a very proud Dad of this group of young men and how they responded this year collectively after last year. Some really bright signs for wexford hurling for the future and really tough on Jack at the end. Early non start killed us but showed real fighting spirit to get back in the contest. Thought our line were slow to react at the start and make changes when needed but players did respond. You'd imagine Limerick based on last week will be overwhelming favourites."
And rightly proud. Would echo all the views expressed about last night. Think we lost the game in the first 20 mins and playing catch up after that on a difficult night for hurling.
Thought the backs were excellent but forwards struggled in the first half.
There's a load of what if's in my mind but the biggest is the lunacy of senior management playing Oisin pepper v Galway for 5 mins.
This group don't fear Kilkenny like some of us older types. They've gone toe to toe with them and had their fair share of success. Hopefully a few can step up to senior over the coming few years.

HurlingBuzz (Wexford) - Posts: 556 - 10/05/2022 09:50:51    2416117

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Replying To 96andproud:  "Tough night last night but a very proud Dad of this group of young men and how they responded this year collectively after last year. Some really bright signs for wexford hurling for the future and really tough on Jack at the end. Early non start killed us but showed real fighting spirit to get back in the contest. Thought our line were slow to react at the start and make changes when needed but players did respond. You'd imagine Limerick based on last week will be overwhelming favourites."
Great display last night and most unlucky. not at least snatch a draw at the death. Those young Model men can be very proud of themselves. As regards Limerick/KK it is hard to know. Our boys played very poorly the first night against Clare and but for Cathal O'Neill, who scored 2.3 out of 3.7 we were gone. However, the lads have really upped the anti since and beat Cork, Waterford and Tipp, with the latter two games been cliff hangers. I feel if our free taker is anything as good as he has been over the past few games, we might just about shade it. We have never lost an All Ireland Final at this grade.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4521 - 10/05/2022 09:51:48    2416120

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Personally I'm annoyed after last night, really annoyed.

Not with the players, I thought they were magnificent, talented, skillful and above all a bunch of lads with guts and fight to claw themselves back into a game when at the start they looked like they could get over run. Every last one of them deserves all the credit they get and more because I believe these players are being let down.

First off I thought the line were slow to make changes, little bit of a light in the headlight approach, in fact to me it looks like the players were instigating a lot of the tweaks and changes themselves but that can happen, we got back into it despite the slow start.

Secondly I looked at the 2 teams and there was a difference in them, in terms of conditioning, not size. These Kilkenny lads were better conditioned, not bigger physically but obviously the work done that we hadn't. Now that's something within our control so why? Another case of our players taking to the field effectively already behind and operating with one hand behind their back, not acceptable.

And lastly looking at a close game like that where scores are a premium and thinking of a talented young hurler like Oisin Pepper on the sideline and thinking what difference might he actually make compared to being effectively sacrificed for what exactly? How does his treatment benefit either him or Wexford underage hurling.

Those players of ours are stars and deserve better imho.

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1544 - 10/05/2022 10:07:22    2416128

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