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Mayo V Tyrone All-Ireland Football Final

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Replying To seamusorinn:  "Mayo's to lose and they WILL."
Great to see the Donegal lads with multiple accounts.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8401 - 07/09/2021 10:28:30    2378453

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "Great to see the Donegal lads with multiple accounts."
When players like tonguey and stumpy legs couldn't save them from going from All-Ireland contenders to the 4th best team in Ulster then they are basket cases .

Looking up at Tyrone with their mouths open.

:-O

One hit freak winners .

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 07/09/2021 11:51:25    2378472

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "When players like tonguey and stumpy legs couldn't save them from going from All-Ireland contenders to the 4th best team in Ulster then they are basket cases .

Looking up at Tyrone with their mouths open.

:-O

One hit freak winners ."
Donegal rent free in your head mate haha

'One hit freak winners'

fielder (Donegal) - Posts: 137 - 07/09/2021 12:13:49    2378477

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Replying To seamusorinn:  "You well capable of bringing the ridicule on yourselves,like doing a lap of honour after an All Ireland Semi Final."
Another bitter troll. You're supposed to be a grown up for god's sake.

the_walls (Mayo) - Posts: 497 - 07/09/2021 12:45:25    2378483

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "O Shea will start and I think Horan knows what is best. This notion that O Shea should defo not start is ridiculous."
I completely agree. He will start. People saying he wont start dont have a clue.

I always thought O'Shea's best position is Centre Half Forward. He isnt mobile enough for midfield. Full Forward is a nightmare for anyone playing there these days. CHF gives him a bit more room, he can run onto the ball at speed, win frees, tackle and hassle from short/medium kick outs. And not have to track back as much.

Just my opinion, the only that counts is James Horan's

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2093 - 07/09/2021 12:49:51    2378488

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Mayo to win by 3 or more.

BilboNaggins (Galway) - Posts: 59 - 07/09/2021 12:55:47    2378490

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Replying To tireoghainabu:  "Is Oisin Mullin not good to go?"
Not fully yet. Might start on the bench. Brendan Harrison should be in contention to start. I don't expect the starting 15 to be named until Saturday just close to kickoff though.

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GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8006 - 07/09/2021 13:00:02    2378493

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Replying To fielder:  "Donegal rent free in your head mate haha

'One hit freak winners'"
I'm getting in your head , that's clear.

Here have another bit of free cheese.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 07/09/2021 13:02:42    2378494

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Replying To Immer:  "
Replying To BarneyGrant:  "One way to look at the final is to measure both teams against Dublin at their best, 2018/19.

Would this Mayo team have beaten Dublin in those years? Not a hope. Tyrone were beaten easily enough in the final in 2018, but i think they are far better now than then.

On balance, Tyrone's win over Kerry was more impressive than Mayo's win over a Dublin team well past their best, and who still could have won it in the last minutes of normal time.

So, Tyrone for me. No preference either way."
Only 3 mentions of Dublin in a post about a game they're not playing in. Nicely done."
I take it that you do not bet, or if you do, then you lose.

Otherwise you would be familiar with collateral form :-)

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3563 - 07/09/2021 13:05:56    2378495

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "I completely agree. He will start. People saying he wont start dont have a clue.

I always thought O'Shea's best position is Centre Half Forward. He isnt mobile enough for midfield. Full Forward is a nightmare for anyone playing there these days. CHF gives him a bit more room, he can run onto the ball at speed, win frees, tackle and hassle from short/medium kick outs. And not have to track back as much.

Just my opinion, the only that counts is James Horan's"
For sure. He actually could survive ok at midfield against Kennedy. I am expecting him to get stuck in, play a big role and if he doesn't run into traffic and lay it off quick he will have a big impact . He already knows Horan will whip him off if he gets into bad habits. I am expecting Mullin to start and wouldn't be surprised if we see McLaughlin.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8401 - 07/09/2021 13:10:02    2378497

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "
Replying To fielder:  "Donegal rent free in your head mate haha

'One hit freak winners'"
I'm getting in your head , that's clear.

Here have another bit of free cheese."
Ah come on, you can do better than that haha
Pathetic.

fielder (Donegal) - Posts: 137 - 07/09/2021 13:11:14    2378498

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "Great to see the Donegal lads with multiple accounts."
Ara, pay no heed, you know yourself how eejits come out of the woodwork. There's one poster from Donegal that has a clear enough grudge against Mayo but majority are level headed posters in my view.

The closer we get the more I think Tyrone will do it but it will be tight. Just the firepower and talent up top that they have.. I know Mayo have improved in that department but maybe this will be where Mayo miss Cillian and especially his free-taking. Both teams are stubborn as flook so I expect it to be in the mixer right to the final kick.

JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1432 - 07/09/2021 14:14:55    2378525

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "For sure. He actually could survive ok at midfield against Kennedy. I am expecting him to get stuck in, play a big role and if he doesn't run into traffic and lay it off quick he will have a big impact . He already knows Horan will whip him off if he gets into bad habits. I am expecting Mullin to start and wouldn't be surprised if we see McLaughlin."
This would be my take on it too. I'd be shocked if he didn't start. If he does the basics and plays in a manner that suits Mayo's style, he'll have a big game. Looking for runners off his shoulder quickly when he has the ball and using his physicality when he doesn't.
If he starts looking for contact every time he gets it, he'll slow things down and won't last too long. He has regularly faded out of big games as a result of trying to do much or taking the wrong option. He has all the physical tools needed to play a very effective role. It might not include too many highlight reel moments, but the most important highlight is lifting Sam at the end of the match.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2327 - 07/09/2021 14:40:42    2378534

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Replying To galwayford:  "Mayo must keep their discipline in this match. No red cards in other words. They must just play football, not the niggling stuff. If they are in contention at half time, say a point behind, I expect them to win out in the second half."
I tend to agree with you here. I heard Rochford say that Mayo should try to impose themselves early on, try to get early scores... scores are welcome at any time but I think it is more important that we keep it tight for first 20 minutes, make sure we don't concede a goal.

Just an observation on this site - Galway supporters seem to think Mayo can do it.... I'm not sure if you are hopeful or fearful that we might do it??

Cbar (Mayo) - Posts: 359 - 07/09/2021 14:49:22    2378536

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "Not fully yet. Might start on the bench. Brendan Harrison should be in contention to start. I don't expect the starting 15 to be named until Saturday just close to kickoff though.

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Mullin is a class act, the 13 day delay has worked out well for him. Hope he makes the final, looking forward to an epic battle.

tireoghainabu (Tyrone) - Posts: 394 - 07/09/2021 15:07:13    2378544

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The build up to this immense, its all anyone can talk about here, and im sure its the same up in Tyrone. My productivity levels in work are non existent at present, certainly stealing a living this week!!!!.

Just cannot call it, think it will be who ever gets a little bit of luck on the day. Fed up of trying to predict how it will go, just sitting back now and savouring the build up. As a Mayo man, i've been spoilt the last 10 years, so many big games and days out, the time of our lives tbh. If we win it so be it, I'll die happy. If we lose I wouldn't begrudge Tyrone one bit, coz they'll have earned it if they beat us. We'll rise again as we always do. Tyrones a County iv'e always had a grá for. Loved the away days in the league, good people up there. As a team iv'e massive respect for them, their technically alot better than they get credit for.

Just one question for Tyrone supporters, and I certainly don't intend to cause offence here. My question is… on average, do the Unionist side of the Tyrone community get behind the team for such a big event as an AIF? Or is their zero interest?

Flyingintraining (Mayo) - Posts: 13 - 07/09/2021 15:26:24    2378551

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "I completely agree. He will start. People saying he wont start dont have a clue.

I always thought O'Shea's best position is Centre Half Forward. He isnt mobile enough for midfield. Full Forward is a nightmare for anyone playing there these days. CHF gives him a bit more room, he can run onto the ball at speed, win frees, tackle and hassle from short/medium kick outs. And not have to track back as much.

Just my opinion, the only that counts is James Horan's"
You obviously profess to having a clue yourself Fridge but a couple of points you make doesn't square with reality:

'he can run onto the ball at speed' - what speed? The truth is Aidan has some great abilities but he has no pace.
'win frees' - I'd say his ratio of fouls committed against him which are penalised is about 1 in 10, so we wouldn't want to be relying on converting whatever Joe deems a foul on such a big lad who'll be left to mind himself.

I think what you've presented is wishful thinking and a repeat of past mistakes The only bits I agree with are the need to avoid him tracking back and his ability to tackle if he can get in close. This is why I think his best role would be to play as an effective double-centreback alongside a genuinely pacey partner like Mullin (assuming he's fit). They could clog up the middle when Mayo don't have the ball and Mullin could be released forward when Mayo have possession, with Aidan staying home to mind the house so not wasting energy ball carrying. Bar that, throw him in at FF again... things might go better than last day out.

If Tyrone have a slow, less mobile midfielder, putting Aidan on him will give up an opportunity to work an advantage against that player. Aidan isn't entitled to start though I think he will.

Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 2521 - 07/09/2021 15:29:30    2378552

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Replying To WanPintWin:  "This would be my take on it too. I'd be shocked if he didn't start. If he does the basics and plays in a manner that suits Mayo's style, he'll have a big game. Looking for runners off his shoulder quickly when he has the ball and using his physicality when he doesn't.
If he starts looking for contact every time he gets it, he'll slow things down and won't last too long. He has regularly faded out of big games as a result of trying to do much or taking the wrong option. He has all the physical tools needed to play a very effective role. It might not include too many highlight reel moments, but the most important highlight is lifting Sam at the end of the match."
Lads any news on the pubs in Dublin & which are open around Croker?
I believe most were shut still for the Tyrone Kerry Semi...
Flying in from Manchester on the hunt for a decent pub at least & or a golden ticket..;)

Mancirish (UK) - Posts: 2200 - 07/09/2021 15:53:15    2378558

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "For sure. He actually could survive ok at midfield against Kennedy. I am expecting him to get stuck in, play a big role and if he doesn't run into traffic and lay it off quick he will have a big impact . He already knows Horan will whip him off if he gets into bad habits. I am expecting Mullin to start and wouldn't be surprised if we see McLaughlin."
Kennedy & Kilpatrick are the weak link in the Tyrone team.

Personally i wouldn't start Kennedy. Hes big but cant jump to win primary possession and can only punch it. He cant tackle either - gives away free after free. And has bad feet, cant pass or score (apart from goal against Cavan and it was scrappy enough).

I would put McKenna into midfield against Loftus (i know Loftus can go into CHF at times) but i think McKenna could run the legs of Loftus. I would start McShane (who hasnt looked his best this season overall) but its an all ireland final.

Canavan & Bradley come on when there is a bit more space and they can use their pace.

Mullin coming back is huge for Mayo. With Harrision to come on if needs be, very strong bench.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2093 - 07/09/2021 15:58:34    2378559

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Replying To Mancirish:  "Lads any news on the pubs in Dublin & which are open around Croker?
I believe most were shut still for the Tyrone Kerry Semi...
Flying in from Manchester on the hunt for a decent pub at least & or a golden ticket..;)"
A good few pubs were open for Tyrone Kerry semi final but people have to be vaccinated. I saw a good few people over 20 turned away from pub I was drinking in due to no vaccine.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3934 - 07/09/2021 16:05:44    2378563

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