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Replying To catch22: "Jaysus , the farm, the treadmill, the cake and the biscuits. We'll for ya and the rest of the country without an arse in our trousers.
Poor farmers is right." Such tripe
The_Fonz (Westmeath) - Posts: 214 - 25/04/2020 16:17:36
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Replying To catch22: "Jaysus , the farm, the treadmill, the cake and the biscuits. We'll for ya and the rest of the country without an arse in our trousers.
Poor farmers is right." Yerra it's just the fat of the land catch :-)
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 25/04/2020 18:48:58
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Replying To The_Fonz: "Such tripe" Poor aul Fonzie. An acre of bog an not the wit to match it.
catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 25/04/2020 19:19:12
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Replying To KingdomBoy1: "Yerra it's just the fat of the land catch :-)" I'd say you're some buck on the treadmill.
Schmokin the belt of her.
catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 25/04/2020 19:34:31
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Replying To roundball: "No evidence that running is bad for joints KingdomBoy1. In fact some research shows it can actually have a protective benefit against arthritis.
Road running probably not the best for GAA players though. Slow steady running doesn't reflect the demands of the game.
I said in an earlier post that I fear a rise in hamstring and tendon injuries when we return as a result of a lack of exposure to sprinting, jumping, kicking. It would be wise for club players to get some exposure to these things on lockdown if they can do so safely. It will stand to them, whether it's this autumn or as some have speculated (though I really wish people would stop speculating as nearly all speculation to date has been wrong) next summer." I guess it's case by case. A lot depends on the running shoes you wear, the pace you run at, etc.
Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2590 - 25/04/2020 21:38:37
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Replying To catch22: "I'd say you're some buck on the treadmill.
Schmokin the belt of her." Ah I'd be tipping away catch, it's good for the ould body and the mind although I'd rather be out for a gallop on the old roads and bohereens.
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 25/04/2020 21:48:47
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Be No hurling for club or County. As bad as it sounds it's what Going to happen. If one player has it playing on the field wit 30 lads plus subs that's about 40 odd players getting it then that's 40 family home's that will get it!!!! So stop training lad. Sorry
Dodgyhurler06 (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1 - 25/04/2020 23:48:08
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Replying To Dodgyhurler06: "Be No hurling for club or County. As bad as it sounds it's what Going to happen. If one player has it playing on the field wit 30 lads plus subs that's about 40 odd players getting it then that's 40 family home's that will get it!!!! So stop training lad. Sorry" Unless they tested them before the matches.
Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2590 - 26/04/2020 11:50:36
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Replying To Dodgyhurler06: "Be No hurling for club or County. As bad as it sounds it's what Going to happen. If one player has it playing on the field wit 30 lads plus subs that's about 40 odd players getting it then that's 40 family home's that will get it!!!! So stop training lad. Sorry" That isnt exactly true now is it?
Being on a pitch alone with someone who has the virus or had symptoms would result in everyone then getting it
KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3788 - 26/04/2020 12:24:16
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Just thinking there they could play away at darts, have the players playing on 2 different boards at a good 'social' distance apart in the arena, it would be some 'sport' to watch and keep the gamblers and online betting ticking over, any kind of sport at all is better than none.
Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3323 - 26/04/2020 13:18:39
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Replying To Dodgyhurler06: "Be No hurling for club or County. As bad as it sounds it's what Going to happen. If one player has it playing on the field wit 30 lads plus subs that's about 40 odd players getting it then that's 40 family home's that will get it!!!! So stop training lad. Sorry" Where did you do your training in epidemiology?
roundball (Tipperary) - Posts: 2514 - 26/04/2020 14:46:22
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Replying To roundball: "Where did you do your training in epidemiology?" China.
endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2514 - 26/04/2020 15:30:26
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Replying To endgame: "China." You must have plenty of practice so....ha ha ha.
Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2590 - 26/04/2020 16:02:25
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Replying To roundball: "Where did you do your training in epidemiology?" how did a tipp man manage to spell epidemiology?
Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 3001 - 26/04/2020 16:38:13
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Replying To roundball: "Where did you do your training in epidemiology?" There's no need for any training, this virus is highly contagious. If you don't know that where have you been for the last 4 months?
As for testing before games, when before? At least a week I'd say to allow for the results. If one player tested positive than anyone who has been in contact with them (club players, officials, family, work colleagues, opposition players from the previous week's game etc. will have to isolate for at least a week, probably two. That means none of them can go to work. Remember, these are amatuers play, most will have jobs to think about, and bills to pay. You can't cocoon them for weeks on end. Besides, if 30 men or women can run around on a pitch together, puffing and panting, grabbing each other; why can't I or anyone else sit in a pub and have a pint or two?
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Bundesliga plans for return to football. Hopefully no healthy footballers are tested before civilians with COVID systems. Different story for the GAA, don't have professional soccer's money to spend on hotels, testing, medical teams etc plus amateur players have work, college or other activities that a possible two weeks of isolation would impact. I thought Bundesliga were isolating all players in hotels for two weeks, then testing before collective training. Sending them home to families after training sounds risky at this stage.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8156 - 26/04/2020 19:42:12
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Replying To GreenandRed: " linkBundesliga plans for return to football. Hopefully no healthy footballers are tested before civilians with COVID systems. Different story for the GAA, don't have professional soccer's money to spend on hotels, testing, medical teams etc plus amateur players have work, college or other activities that a possible two weeks of isolation would impact. I thought Bundesliga were isolating all players in hotels for two weeks, then testing before collective training. Sending them home to families after training sounds risky at this stage."
The plan though is at the very early stages of development and with the current restrictions on movement and the call for continued social distancing it is understood there is sensitivity around progressing the plan but the details of the proposal and how it could be introduced continue to be worked on.
For it to work GAA players, management and their backroom teams in every county will have to go through an extensive testing programme which would involve testing upwards of 2000 people on a regular basis.
The plan to allow inter-county training would also need to be sanctioned by the National Public Health Emergency Team and the Government.
A return to inter-county training would be a significant step towards a return to action on the field of play and also raise hopes that the GAA could stage their 2020 All Ireland championships.
That could happen either behind closed doors in the summer or possibly from September where restrictions on mass gatherings might be lifted considerably and spectators can attend games.
TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4518 - 26/04/2020 21:10:58
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Replying To GreenandRed: " linkBundesliga plans for return to football. Hopefully no healthy footballers are tested before civilians with COVID systems. Different story for the GAA, don't have professional soccer's money to spend on hotels, testing, medical teams etc plus amateur players have work, college or other activities that a possible two weeks of isolation would impact. I thought Bundesliga were isolating all players in hotels for two weeks, then testing before collective training. Sending them home to families after training sounds risky at this stage."
Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2590 - 26/04/2020 22:01:32
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Replying To TheUsername: " Replying To GreenandRed: " linkBundesliga plans for return to football. Hopefully no healthy footballers are tested before civilians with COVID systems. Different story for the GAA, don't have professional soccer's money to spend on hotels, testing, medical teams etc plus amateur players have work, college or other activities that a possible two weeks of isolation would impact. I thought Bundesliga were isolating all players in hotels for two weeks, then testing before collective training. Sending them home to families after training sounds risky at this stage." According to a report on the RTÉ 'Your politics' podcast a plan to allow inter-county training to resume later in the summer is under consideration at the Department of Transport, Tourism and Sport. The plan though is at the very early stages of development and with the current restrictions on movement and the call for continued social distancing it is understood there is sensitivity around progressing the plan but the details of the proposal and how it could be introduced continue to be worked on. For it to work GAA players, management and their backroom teams in every county will have to go through an extensive testing programme which would involve testing upwards of 2000 people on a regular basis. The plan to allow inter-county training would also need to be sanctioned by the National Public Health Emergency Team and the Government. A return to inter-county training would be a significant step towards a return to action on the field of play and also raise hopes that the GAA could stage their 2020 All Ireland championships. That could happen either behind closed doors in the summer or possibly from September where restrictions on mass gatherings might be lifted considerably and spectators can attend games."
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Its hard to see the road when you are in a fog and for a lot of people that's the way things are when it comes to playing the GAA again. We have to look beyond the current circumstances and ask ourselves what would things look like in the next couple of months and then what changes or risks we would be willing to accept in order to get some things back up and running - not back to normal but back up and running. The GAA is no different to making decisions about going back to work or getting on the bus or train. Some people will never accept the risks and that's their choice but others will with the knowledge that they believe they are doing something which poses an acceptable risk to the authorities and themselves.
From the very beginning the lockdown was brought in to try and control the situation. The virus had got to wide and far in the community and identify, trace and isolate would just not work. However as we get beyond the lockdown phase what is next, the key to all of it is still, identify, trace and isolate. Community spread is still the big risk and unfortunately while we get the overall % on these and we don't see what's happening on a daily basis. We are slowly getting to the point where all people with symptoms may be tested, the flu season is over which naturally will also reduce people with symptoms (lets hope everyone gets the flu shot this year), so we hopefully will get to the point where identification and isolation will eventually keep it under control. In this situation you could see club activity resume first followed by intercounty. However for this to be successful people have to accept that changes have to happen. For a club it would mean that everyone entering the grounds would have to have their name and temperature taken, directed to wash their hands straight away, dressing rooms would be closed, bathrooms kept hygienic and constantly cleaned (the state of some would be pretty rough in a lot of clubs - up to the club of course if they want them open). Time slots for training strictly adhered to and people leave directly after and not hang around for to watch other slots (people should record the time they leave for their own records). Anyone not participating should wear a facemask. All of these of course do not eliminate the risk but what it does is limits the impact of infecting others and hence the impact. I wrote before about what changes would need to happen on the field which some though were mad and if they had to be followed the games would never happen - its odd that some cannot accept that the games could go ahead again and some cannot accept that to go ahead, things have to change. The simplest thing, shaking hands with another player - why because now it's on you hands and you are constantly touching you face. The virus doesn't get absorbed through the skin or seep out when you are sweating; it comes from your, mouth nose. Think about it hand to face to hand to face! Verbal's with the other players is a great way to pick it up; perhaps the rules for verbal's or handbags need to be stricter?
Not every player on the pitch would be a close contact (county players could have their GPS modified to track who actually is during a game) but shaking hands after or before the game will make you one. Being a close contact also doesn't mean you will get it even if you are marking the player - there has obviously been no studies but we have to look at it logically as well and think how do we get it and how can we eliminate if possible the chances of it happening. I would think that the biggest issue on the pitch, would as I said, would be player behavior that has noting to do with playing the game however the lads we know that mouth off on the pitch - do you think they will stop because of this? The hardest thing to change is human behavior but it's the most effective change that needs to be made. Perhaps it may usher in a new respect for referees and the opposing players - some good may come out of it yet!
I haven't said anything about spectators but that's another day's work.
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