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Replying To jimbodub: "Plenty of that going on in this thread too. You made some excellent points there. Hope the situation is rectified quickly as Kildare being removed from the championship is not on and the knock on impact would damage the entire competition. If there was a direct judgment from Gardai and health and safety authorities that the venue was suitable under certain criteria, then once those conditions are adhered to then the GAA's stance from a H&S stand point is not relevant. It then turns into what many believe to be purely down to finances etc I'd worry though that CP will not back down and the outcome of that is the removal of Kildare which would be very damaging and that's not what anyone wants. Will Kildare really want to walk away? I'd be interested to hear what the Kildare fans think on that." Its not a question of Kildare 'walking away' the CB , players and mgt are willing to play according to the draw, 1st out home venue. The Kildare supporters are absolutely 100% behind team even if it means the game is awarded to Mayo (not forefited by Kildare). Newbridge or nowhere regardless of the bully tactics of the GAA St.Conleth (Kildare) - Posts: 1701 - 26/06/2018 19:48:53 2115577 Link
Also the support of the Real GAA community across the country is just fantastic, really shaking up the Dictators! St.Conleth (Kildare) - Posts: 1701 - 26/06/2018 19:56:42 2115579 Link
Replying To jimbodub: "The cancelled press conference was perhaps quite telling. Time to bring it behind closed doors." Is this the same Jimbobdub who still thinks there are still grass banks in Newbridge while endlessly quoting health and safety?, those grass banks have been gone for years, there is a large terrace at the town end and another terrace on the Liffey side. CurraghBill (Kildare) - Posts: 6 - 26/06/2018 19:57:44 2115580 Link
Replying To St.Conleth: "Its not a question of Kildare 'walking away' the CB , players and mgt are willing to play according to the draw, 1st out home venue. The Kildare supporters are absolutely 100% behind team even if it means the game is awarded to Mayo (not forefited by Kildare). Newbridge or nowhere regardless of the bully tactics of the GAA" Well This is a first. Absolutely agree with you. This situation cannot be allowed to continue. It was Laois last year, Kildare this, who's to say who is next. Also the bank holiday Monday league thing. The gaa need to be reigned in, and fair play to Kildare for having the stones and bottle to do it. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 26/06/2018 19:59:19 2115583 Link
Replying To St.Conleth: "Its not a question of Kildare 'walking away' the CB , players and mgt are willing to play according to the draw, 1st out home venue. The Kildare supporters are absolutely 100% behind team even if it means the game is awarded to Mayo (not forefited by Kildare). Newbridge or nowhere regardless of the bully tactics of the GAA" If it's true the press conference scheduled for earlier was cancelled on the basis that written confirmation - that we won't be sending a team to Croke Park on Saturday - has already been sent, then it only reaffirms the stance the County Board and team management are taking on this. A bit ahead of the 48 hour notice officially needed but at least it gives the GAA a bit of time to figure out what to do with the Cavan v Tyrone game. They may have left a bit of wiggle room for a neutral venue being used but I reckon there's as much chance of that happening as there is of the game going ahead in Croke Park. I've only spoke to one Kildare single "fan" who's happy to go to Croke Park, this is bringing the entire county together better than any run to the super 8 ever could have done. if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3685 - 26/06/2018 20:00:46 2115584 Link
Replying To CurraghBill: "Is this the same Jimbobdub who still thinks there are still grass banks in Newbridge while endlessly quoting health and safety?, those grass banks have been gone for years, there is a large terrace at the town end and another terrace on the Liffey side." No. Never mentioned grass banks. Must have been someone else. So to answer you question again. No. No its not. jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20685 - 26/06/2018 20:01:12 2115585 Link
I think that a compromise will be agreed where the game will go ahead, just not in Croke Park or Newbridge. Not a great outcome for Kildare but they probably realise now that it will not be in Newbridge so they need to save some face and will present an alternative venue as some sort of victory having stood up to the powers to be. ROYALOPTIMIST (Meath) - Posts: 179 - 26/06/2018 20:01:31 2115586 Link
Replying To CurraghBill: "Is this the same Jimbobdub who still thinks there are still grass banks in Newbridge while endlessly quoting health and safety?, those grass banks have been gone for years, there is a large terrace at the town end and another terrace on the Liffey side." You're confusing him with TheUsername whose description of the grounds left those in the know with the distinct impression that he was either talking out his hat, or had more pints than he realized last time he was there. http://hoganstand.com/Forum/FindPost?MessageID=2115008 festinog (Galway) - Posts: 3143 - 26/06/2018 20:08:32 2115589 Link
Replying To ROYALOPTIMIST: "I think that a compromise will be agreed where the game will go ahead, just not in Croke Park or Newbridge. Not a great outcome for Kildare but they probably realise now that it will not be in Newbridge so they need to save some face and will present an alternative venue as some sort of victory having stood up to the powers to be." At this stage if there's a compromise the whole country will be let down with the support they're giving not only the county. Kildare have given themselves a strong voice, can't be shut up now with a compromise. Cant see it happening. St.Conleth (Kildare) - Posts: 1701 - 26/06/2018 20:12:55 2115591 Link
I predict a whitewash response from the CCCC. Game to be played in Newbridge with the caveat that a substantial number of tickets be allocated to Mayo season ticket holders. Make it look like that was their concern in the first place. If not the courts mhunicean_abu (Monaghan) - Posts: 1052 - 26/06/2018 20:15:16 2115592 Link
Replying To if_in_doubt: "If it's true the press conference scheduled for earlier was cancelled on the basis that written confirmation - that we won't be sending a team to Croke Park on Saturday - has already been sent, then it only reaffirms the stance the County Board and team management are taking on this. A bit ahead of the 48 hour notice officially needed but at least it gives the GAA a bit of time to figure out what to do with the Cavan v Tyrone game. They may have left a bit of wiggle room for a neutral venue being used but I reckon there's as much chance of that happening as there is of the game going ahead in Croke Park. I've only spoke to one Kildare single "fan" who's happy to go to Croke Park, this is bringing the entire county together better than any run to the super 8 ever could have done." I haven't come across anybody who thinks we should compromise. In fact the majority will be really annoyed at this stage if its agreed to play anywhere but Newbridge. St.Conleth (Kildare) - Posts: 1701 - 26/06/2018 20:16:34 2115593 Link
Replying To tra: "GAA should be a bottom up, not top down organisation. Headquarters are getting above themselves, and Kildare should hold their ground, and see HQ in court if necessary. All county boards should support Kildare, and state they will take no further part in this year's championship if Kildare are thrown out. If the Co boards don't do so, players themselves should withdraw from the competition, with GPA backing." Totally agree with this. Every county who thinks this has nothing to do with them is wrong. This affects all of us. Laois got stung with this before and so did Wicklow. It will happen to another county. It's a principle and it's about showing what this organisation is really about. Communities not money should be the biggest consideration of the GAA. We need to support each other not act like islands, that's how HQs gets away with this type of behaviour. I don't care what money Kildare are offered, they should refuse it. HighKings (Meath) - Posts: 271 - 26/06/2018 20:16:34 2115594 Link
Replying To St.Conleth: "Its not a question of Kildare 'walking away' the CB , players and mgt are willing to play according to the draw, 1st out home venue. The Kildare supporters are absolutely 100% behind team even if it means the game is awarded to Mayo (not forefited by Kildare). Newbridge or nowhere regardless of the bully tactics of the GAA" Hopefully it won't get to that. No one wants to see that. But don't be surprised how quickly things will move on. The real GAA community still have lots to play for with or without Kildare but fingers crossed there's good work being done behind the scenes tonight. Shame all this had to happen and really it's a poor showing by the powers that be thus far. I'm glad to see the press conference was cancelled. Would have only stoked the fire and it's hot enough out. Always best to sort this out behind closed doors. jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20685 - 26/06/2018 20:18:23 2115595 Link
Replying To jimbodub: "No. Never mentioned grass banks. Must have been someone else. So to answer you question again. No. No its not." My apologies then Jimbob must have been mistaken don't fancy scrolling through all the posts to find out who, anyway as regards health and safety Newbridge is probably one of the safest grounds around there is huge walking areas in front of the stands and terraces so big crowds can disperse quite easily. CurraghBill (Kildare) - Posts: 6 - 26/06/2018 20:18:42 2115596 Link
when was the last time Kildare played a Leinster championship game in Newbridge , when was the last time they won a game there culmore (None) - Posts: 1398 - 26/06/2018 20:21:46 2115598 Link
Replying To festinog: "You're confusing him with TheUsername whose description of the grounds left those in the know with the distinct impression that he was either talking out his hat, or had more pints than he realized last time he was there. Cheers" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://hoganstand.com/Forum/FindPost?MessageID=2115008" Cheers festinog thats the guy already apologised to jimbob, but I knew it was a Dub. CurraghBill (Kildare) - Posts: 6 - 26/06/2018 20:22:32 2115599 Link
Replying To ROYALOPTIMIST: "I think that a compromise will be agreed where the game will go ahead, just not in Croke Park or Newbridge. Not a great outcome for Kildare but they probably realise now that it will not be in Newbridge so they need to save some face and will present an alternative venue as some sort of victory having stood up to the powers to be." Wouldn't that still be the same outcome though? No home game. Can't see the current rebel forces accepting such. jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20685 - 26/06/2018 20:23:48 2115600 Link
Replying To CurraghBill: "My apologies then Jimbob must have been mistaken don't fancy scrolling through all the posts to find out who, anyway as regards health and safety Newbridge is probably one of the safest grounds around there is huge walking areas in front of the stands and terraces so big crowds can disperse quite easily." Fair fecks for apologizing Plenty haven't done in the past No trouble sir. All the best jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20685 - 26/06/2018 20:25:45 2115601 Link
What makes this whole thing so lamentably stupid, is that at the end of the day, we're talking about a round 3 qualifier. To try and deny Kildare home advantage over this was so ill-conceived, it's hard to imagine. And the manner in which HQ has tripped over itself with excuses that were impressive only for their feebleness, has only served to highlight that they have no sound footing upon which to make this decision, but rather, were blinded by the prospect of a Croker full to the gills with the Red and Green. I wouldn't even subscribe to the theory that the move was a deliberate attempt to give Mayo an advantage; they haven't shown the capacity for this amount of forward planning. festinog (Galway) - Posts: 3143 - 26/06/2018 20:31:38 2115603 Link
Replying To festinog: "What makes this whole thing so lamentably stupid, is that at the end of the day, we're talking about a round 3 qualifier. To try and deny Kildare home advantage over this was so ill-conceived, it's hard to imagine. And the manner in which HQ has tripped over itself with excuses that were impressive only for their feebleness, has only served to highlight that they have no sound footing upon which to make this decision, but rather, were blinded by the prospect of a Croker full to the gills with the Red and Green. I wouldn't even subscribe to the theory that the move was a deliberate attempt to give Mayo an advantage; they haven't shown the capacity for this amount of forward planning." Hahaha jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20685 - 26/06/2018 20:36:21 2115605 Link