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Replying To southmeathgael:  "Problem was noone on his coaching ticket knew about it."
True. Flynn shouldn't be considered even if he wants to be. He has pretty much zero managerial or coaching experience at any level bar a few months here and there . If the last 2 years teaches us anything it should be that managerial and coaching appointments need to be made with the head and not the heart and sentiment should not come into play in any decision.

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1003 - 28/08/2024 09:41:27    2567287

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Replying To Blackspot09:  "I'll give you Jack Flynn definitely. While I'm not disputing those other lads could make the meath panel I don't see any of them improving the starting 15 and I include Menton and McGill in that who were absolutely top class for Meath."
The leading contender for footballer of the year in Ireland this year is Paul Conroy from Galway, who is 35 years old playing midfield in an All Ireland final and was scoring 3-5 points per game and in form of his life, far exceeding what he was playing like when he was even ten years younger. In Meath we seem to decide a player is finished once they hit 29/30 years old, particularly under Colm O'Rourke's set up. You should be selected to play for your county based on your attitude, you ability, conditioning levels, and commitment to the cause. Your age should be basically irrelevant.

BigJoe14 (Meath) - Posts: 997 - 28/08/2024 11:27:33    2567330

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Replying To BigJoe14:  "The leading contender for footballer of the year in Ireland this year is Paul Conroy from Galway, who is 35 years old playing midfield in an All Ireland final and was scoring 3-5 points per game and in form of his life, far exceeding what he was playing like when he was even ten years younger. In Meath we seem to decide a player is finished once they hit 29/30 years old, particularly under Colm O'Rourke's set up. You should be selected to play for your county based on your attitude, you ability, conditioning levels, and commitment to the cause. Your age should be basically irrelevant."
I never once mentioned age in my posts about these players so not sure why you are bringing it in to the conversation.

My point was from what I've see of those lads at club level over the last year or so I don't see them improving the current meath starting team and not even sure they'd improve the first 5/7 subs . If a lads was 38 and I thought he'd make the meath team better I'd be all for having him in. Couldn't care less about what age a player is.

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1003 - 28/08/2024 12:06:55    2567347

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Replying To jetser:  "Should definitely be going for him but wont ever happen unfortunately"
Why would Meath Football bring the fallout resulting in such an appointment ? A media circus from start to finish that would end in disaster.

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2195 - 28/08/2024 12:08:54    2567349

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Interesting to see who wi get the job.It looks like Robbie brennan is favourite but who else could be in the running?I'd like outside the county malschy o Rourke but cant see it,Tony mactee done alright with Sligo,Colm Collins done a good job with Clare for 10 years always had them set up well.Inside conor Gillespie,Kevin reilly and Lar wall should be mentioned if not for the job maybe backroom.Thanks to Colm and his management team for time and effort but unfortunately it didn't work out.

Proudroyal (Meath) - Posts: 294 - 28/08/2024 12:14:12    2567352

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Replying To Fionn:  "BF would be on his Meath backroom team.

For RB, it would also be a good stepping stone for the job he wants.

Think he will get the Meath job, and then the other job, down the line."
What other job ?

southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 937 - 28/08/2024 12:48:29    2567356

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The more I read the stronger my belief we have shot ourselves in foot once again. COR should have been given another year and a chance to finalise his backroom team and attempt to finish job he started. Last night's CB meeting were either unwilling or unable to answer questions. Was decision made by two men with rest kept in the dark ?It looks like another internal appointment with RB the prefered choice. A coach with no intercounty experience who is still committed to club. When would he take over.when KC are out of championship or maybe late next year if club progress to club semi or final ?. Since Sean B was asked to interview for the job he held for 23 years, we have gone backward's. Now COR plan has been scuppered in hunt for a quick fix.

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2195 - 28/08/2024 13:02:44    2567361

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Replying To seadog54:  "Why would Meath Football bring the fallout resulting in such an appointment ? A media circus from start to finish that would end in disaster."
...like we have done our busness so well over the last 20 years...ist not like we don't have history in creating messes..

Thelongwoodslasher (Meath) - Posts: 401 - 28/08/2024 13:07:28    2567364

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it didn't work out for O'Rourke whatever way we look at it, reading the article on the main page it sounds like he walked before he was pushed.. In terms of the next manager I hope it's Brennan with an excellent backroom team.

meath1987 (Meath) - Posts: 134 - 28/08/2024 13:21:36    2567370

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Replying To Blackspot09:  "True. Flynn shouldn't be considered even if he wants to be. He has pretty much zero managerial or coaching experience at any level bar a few months here and there . If the last 2 years teaches us anything it should be that managerial and coaching appointments need to be made with the head and not the heart and sentiment should not come into play in any decision."
Agree 100%

nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1266 - 28/08/2024 14:10:49    2567376

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Replying To seadog54:  "The more I read the stronger my belief we have shot ourselves in foot once again. COR should have been given another year and a chance to finalise his backroom team and attempt to finish job he started. Last night's CB meeting were either unwilling or unable to answer questions. Was decision made by two men with rest kept in the dark ?It looks like another internal appointment with RB the prefered choice. A coach with no intercounty experience who is still committed to club. When would he take over.when KC are out of championship or maybe late next year if club progress to club semi or final ?. Since Sean B was asked to interview for the job he held for 23 years, we have gone backward's. Now COR plan has been scuppered in hunt for a quick fix."
Assume this is based on the article on the main page. Shocked, shocked I say, to hear the Skyrne delegate was unhappy that COR was out. The difference between the (quoted) delegates comments and the general opinion of Meath supporters is interesting. And I think it shows the difference between being a typical GAA official (often older, happy to take things slow, stick with tradition, not upset the apple cart) and many supporters (painfully aware we're behind the times, that unwieldy processes aren't helpful, and if we were waiting on sacking by vote no one would ever be out on their ear).
To be honest I came away from that article glad Plunkett and Keane got something done rather than going 12 rounds with delegates.

MeathAbroad (Meath) - Posts: 94 - 28/08/2024 14:29:37    2567377

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Replying To jetser:  "Should definitely be going for him but wont ever happen unfortunately"
Agreed this man would definitely get a tune out of those lads, he's have them eating out of his hand

Mmmeath (Meath) - Posts: 15 - 28/08/2024 14:31:24    2567379

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In all the back and forth, and who is to blame or who said what, it's just a no win situation. I'd like to thank Colm for stepping up and taking the job, I was delighted when he got it and you could see the excitement in supporters in his first few games. It didn't go as he wanted and indeed as many Meath supporters wished, as he is a legend and it would have been fantastic if a man who had done so much in the jersey could have turned a corner for us on the sideline. He also had skin in the game as he retired early to take the job.
It looks like he jumped before being pushed as the review would not have been positive if the player surveys were put in the light of day. That must be tough for him to take and word is he was unhappy that players were not required to put their name on their surveys. But we don't have to sign our names when we vote either.
I hope he enjoys his retirement and look forward to supporting the new man at the helm.

Roger (Meath) - Posts: 478 - 28/08/2024 15:17:30    2567386

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Replying To Thelongwoodslasher:  "...like we have done our busness so well over the last 20 years...ist not like we don't have history in creating messes.."
We do and continue to do so. However, this would be a new low.

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2195 - 28/08/2024 15:31:00    2567388

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Replying To MeathAbroad:  "Assume this is based on the article on the main page. Shocked, shocked I say, to hear the Skyrne delegate was unhappy that COR was out. The difference between the (quoted) delegates comments and the general opinion of Meath supporters is interesting. And I think it shows the difference between being a typical GAA official (often older, happy to take things slow, stick with tradition, not upset the apple cart) and many supporters (painfully aware we're behind the times, that unwieldy processes aren't helpful, and if we were waiting on sacking by vote no one would ever be out on their ear).
To be honest I came away from that article glad Plunkett and Keane got something done rather than going 12 rounds with delegates."
No, expected little from last night's meeting which only muddied the water further. Why bother when no quirie's were answered. Apart from two men rest of board seem in the dark as to what happened. It may not suit but other delegats express concern. It is not so long ago we sacked by vote and got rid of a good man. I have supported COR since his appointment and bought into his attempt to get things right. I also understand some supporters impatience with progress. We are now back to square one and entering once more into the unwieldy process.

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2195 - 28/08/2024 15:52:01    2567394

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Replying To Unitedroyal:  "Can I ask the question, would people be totally against Rory Gallagher. I think it's what this crop of players need."
Yes I would be totally against Gallagher and this crop of players do not need him.

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3743 - 28/08/2024 18:36:24    2567424

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Replying To seadog54:  "No, expected little from last night's meeting which only muddied the water further. Why bother when no quirie's were answered. Apart from two men rest of board seem in the dark as to what happened. It may not suit but other delegats express concern. It is not so long ago we sacked by vote and got rid of a good man. I have supported COR since his appointment and bought into his attempt to get things right. I also understand some supporters impatience with progress. We are now back to square one and entering once more into the unwieldy process."
COR never got us beyond square 1 sure. If you looked at any of the games last season you would see that his possition was simply untenable. There is an obvious choice that should be ratified in the coming days, but due to our archaic process it'll take weeks, or worse still won't happen at all for reasons known only to CB management committee. COR is gone, and unfortunately he was an unmitigated disaster that left with no possitives to look back on. Had to go before he made matters worse, if that was possible.

southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 937 - 28/08/2024 20:01:13    2567431

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Replying To BigJoe14:  "The leading contender for footballer of the year in Ireland this year is Paul Conroy from Galway, who is 35 years old playing midfield in an All Ireland final and was scoring 3-5 points per game and in form of his life, far exceeding what he was playing like when he was even ten years younger. In Meath we seem to decide a player is finished once they hit 29/30 years old, particularly under Colm O'Rourke's set up. You should be selected to play for your county based on your attitude, you ability, conditioning levels, and commitment to the cause. Your age should be basically irrelevant."
I'd still have David Larkin and Ciaran Lenihan in my Meath team!

Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 1352 - 28/08/2024 22:16:19    2567445

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Replying To southmeathgael:  "COR never got us beyond square 1 sure. If you looked at any of the games last season you would see that his possition was simply untenable. There is an obvious choice that should be ratified in the coming days, but due to our archaic process it'll take weeks, or worse still won't happen at all for reasons known only to CB management committee. COR is gone, and unfortunately he was an unmitigated disaster that left with no possitives to look back on. Had to go before he made matters worse, if that was possible."
Who is the obvious choice and based on what is better than any other possible candidate?

winatallcost (Meath) - Posts: 587 - 28/08/2024 23:30:19    2567456

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Replying To seadog54:  "The more I read the stronger my belief we have shot ourselves in foot once again. COR should have been given another year and a chance to finalise his backroom team and attempt to finish job he started. Last night's CB meeting were either unwilling or unable to answer questions. Was decision made by two men with rest kept in the dark ?It looks like another internal appointment with RB the prefered choice. A coach with no intercounty experience who is still committed to club. When would he take over.when KC are out of championship or maybe late next year if club progress to club semi or final ?. Since Sean B was asked to interview for the job he held for 23 years, we have gone backward's. Now COR plan has been scuppered in hunt for a quick fix."
By finish the job he started, you must mean finish us off by relegating us to Division 3 and back to the Tailteann Cup? That is where Meath were heading if he remained in place.

BigJoe14 (Meath) - Posts: 997 - 29/08/2024 04:29:18    2567463

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