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Replying To southmeathgael:  "We have to accept, its looking like the 16 or so years of success under Boylan was just a snapshot in time that glosses over the fact that we are actually just a run of the mill football county and certainly not the powerhouse we thought we were. It should have been different , In football terms, the successful period was sizeable enough that it should have built the foundations for years to come, but we fluffed our lines bigtime through poor management at county board level. Instead of pushing on we went the other direction. 3 all irelands in the 100 years pre Boylan and god only knows when we'll win another one. We were blessed to have the man and we certainly made hay while we could and personally I'm very lucky to be of the age to have witnessed it all, but Meath, as a force in football are dead unfortunately."
Ahh not at all, we had good teams in the 70's where if you lost 1 game you were out, we were still always competitive. Likewise in the noughties we should have beaten dublin many a time, ciaran whelan hitting Crawford a haymaker from the throw in and getting yellow card for his troubles in a leinster nail biter comes to mind, GG shooting the lights out in another also.

When we beat Louth in 2010 or the following year when we walloped them properly(which they all seem to conveniently forget) we had forwards like Bray, Cian Ward, Farrell, Sheridan, Shane O Rourke and Co. All good forwards, all capable of kicking points from way out or beating their man and burying a goal. For whatever reason we haven't produced a forward in their calibre since, what is the issue? How can a big gaa mad county like meath go over 10 years without producing a top class inter county forward? We're not talking David Clifford's here just a natural scorer like Paul mannion, paddy mcbrearty or Darren mccurry. Inexcusable really

Northsidegaels (Meath) - Posts: 239 - 26/05/2024 10:26:47    2547148

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Louth waltzed through the Meath defence at will. Would that have happened in Lyons, Harnan, Bob o Malleys time? No steel in Meath anymore. You boys are viewed as a soft outfit this last 10 + years.

overdabar (Westmeath) - Posts: 246 - 26/05/2024 10:58:56    2547161

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I went over to the Louth page and left a congratulatory note for them, Im happy for them - theyve been building steadily to the 2nd team in the province for 3/4 years and this is an enormous monkey off their backs. First win against Meath since 1975, thats a great day for them. The day is theirs. It means a lot to them lads, you should go over and be gracious too, theyve a good team there. Maybe now the collective damage from 2010 can be lanced.

For us, this feels like a low. Losing by 10 pts to any Leinster team should be a low, but remember, we lost to Offaly in the championship last year, relegating us to the Tailteann Cup. Few years before that we lost to Longford, few years before that to Westmeath. We get very hard to beat Kildare anymore too. Yesterday was the next obvious step. It shouldnt surprise anyone.

I reiterate what I said yesterday that the season is over.
After that Id only be saying stuff Ive been saying for years. And on and on, the wheels keep turning.

Young_gael (Meath) - Posts: 596 - 26/05/2024 11:29:49    2547171

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Condolences to Matthew Costello and his family.May his Dad rest in peace.What a brave young man going out to play after that news.That commitment to his teammates and county jersey should be highly regarded and applauded.Well done.

Proudroyal (Meath) - Posts: 283 - 26/05/2024 11:37:59    2547173

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You experts on here make me laugh. You drop your team like a hot potato. Disparaging remarks about people who have put a Lifetime into Meath Football. IF Meath do turn around the season, you will be at the front of the row congratulating the team. The hypocrisy and self-importance of some in this group is laughable. Get behind the team. Destructive Criticism helps no-one.

Stiofan (Meath) - Posts: 66 - 26/05/2024 12:12:00    2547181

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Replying To Stiofan:  "You experts on here make me laugh. You drop your team like a hot potato. Disparaging remarks about people who have put a Lifetime into Meath Football. IF Meath do turn around the season, you will be at the front of the row congratulating the team. The hypocrisy and self-importance of some in this group is laughable. Get behind the team. Destructive Criticism helps no-one."
Destructive criticism ??? Calm down Maude Flanders

southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 931 - 26/05/2024 13:02:51    2547188

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Replying To Stiofan:  "You experts on here make me laugh. You drop your team like a hot potato. Disparaging remarks about people who have put a Lifetime into Meath Football. IF Meath do turn around the season, you will be at the front of the row congratulating the team. The hypocrisy and self-importance of some in this group is laughable. Get behind the team. Destructive Criticism helps no-one."
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, I guess you call this hate speech if someone not cut out for a job !

WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 924 - 26/05/2024 13:14:23    2547190

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Seems we're currently in a sorry mess at the minute , warning signs have been imminent this while , while most of us thought COR might have been our saviour . Not so , think we have to look at our county board firstly, we're not producing the players so then this go back to the clubs? Genuine question will anyone at county board level now ask the harsh questions, I believe we're back to the era in the late 70s when the Meath Chronicle in their Sports page, published a black cross signifying the death of Meath Gaa , in which after this a few people grabbed the mantle , and turned around the fortunes of games within our county , here's hoping history will repeat itself , by the way well done to Louth gaa.

Oldsam (Meath) - Posts: 31 - 26/05/2024 13:23:04    2547192

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Replying To Stiofan:  "You experts on here make me laugh. You drop your team like a hot potato. Disparaging remarks about people who have put a Lifetime into Meath Football. IF Meath do turn around the season, you will be at the front of the row congratulating the team. The hypocrisy and self-importance of some in this group is laughable. Get behind the team. Destructive Criticism helps no-one."
What disparaging remarks have been made on here since the game yesterday? I would like for you to point them out to me.

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 960 - 26/05/2024 13:35:40    2547196

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Replying To ged:  "Dreamt of this day for years, decades even. Beating Meath in the championship. As special as the win was for myself and many a Louth supporter, I have to say Matthew Costello has been foremost on my mind since. What a brave man to line out for his county in such circumstances. The morning after 2010 there was a tragedy in Donegal that reminded us that it's only football. Yesterday evening that same line was came back in mind. It is only football. Best of luck for the remainder of the year."
Very well said. Louth fans sowing it in to Meath fans on the way out but that's to be expected given the rivalry and the hurt of 2010. Louth much the better team, organised, way more physicality, a team you'd be proud to support. Good work going on with their underage, getting Devlin and Harte in to kickstart it and Brennan seems to have built on it. We could learn a lot from them

LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1505 - 26/05/2024 13:47:03    2547201

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Replying To southmeathgael:  "We have to accept, its looking like the 16 or so years of success under Boylan was just a snapshot in time that glosses over the fact that we are actually just a run of the mill football county and certainly not the powerhouse we thought we were. It should have been different , In football terms, the successful period was sizeable enough that it should have built the foundations for years to come, but we fluffed our lines bigtime through poor management at county board level. Instead of pushing on we went the other direction. 3 all irelands in the 100 years pre Boylan and god only knows when we'll win another one. We were blessed to have the man and we certainly made hay while we could and personally I'm very lucky to be of the age to have witnessed it all, but Meath, as a force in football are dead unfortunately."
Can we forget being a football powerhouse that's unattainable. We've made 1 all Ireland quarter final in 13 seasons (and likely 1 in 14 after this year), albeit if the 2020 and 2021 Covid championships weren't straight knockout there's a decent chance we would have made another one. That's the yardstick for me, you don't have to be a football powerhouse to make the last 8 and with a proper organised, modern coaching set up that's achievable. It may take dour keep ball football but that's up to the rule makers to change not the managers

LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1505 - 26/05/2024 14:00:20    2547205

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Replying To Proudroyal:  "Condolences to Matthew Costello and his family.May his Dad rest in peace.What a brave young man going out to play after that news.That commitment to his teammates and county jersey should be highly regarded and applauded.Well done."
Condolences to Mathew and the Costello family, how courageous of Mathew to play yesterday six hours after his dad passing away.
Despite the massive defeat Mathew showed the pride and importance the players give the Meath jersey.
I wasn't expecting a win but I was hoping we would give Louth a game and maybe sneak a win.
I am not into criticising the Meath management but they made some terrible mistakes yesterday starting with the selection, the two changes at half time should have been at the start and a man who hadn't played a minute of football for Meath should not have started and should not have being left on so long. Decisions like that will pee off better younger players who are sitting on the bench. I think Ruairi Kinsella should have been brought on at 11 when Cillian was clearly struggling there (now they were plenty others underperforming too).
There was also some really poor tactics from Meath, lack of game plan and they were badly organised.
Colm you have a lot to work on for next Sunday

madmeath (Meath) - Posts: 68 - 26/05/2024 14:18:48    2547207

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Sincere condolences to Matthew Costello and his family a loss of a parent is devastating and full credit to him for the performance he gave his father would be proud.
Poor day at the office for Meath we really struggle to breach these defensive systems way too slow with our counter attacks compared to Louth, O Rourke I feel will have a tough job lifting these players now for the kerry game, unfortunately it just feels like our season is over all ready.

Royal.Legend (Meath) - Posts: 678 - 26/05/2024 15:48:37    2547226

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Replying To Stiofan:  "You experts on here make me laugh. You drop your team like a hot potato. Disparaging remarks about people who have put a Lifetime into Meath Football. IF Meath do turn around the season, you will be at the front of the row congratulating the team. The hypocrisy and self-importance of some in this group is laughable. Get behind the team. Destructive Criticism helps no-one."
Comments like this make me laugh. If we'd won yesterday we'd celebrate. But we didn't, we were badly off the pace. Why would we react the same to two completely different events? I've never seen any criticism of COR and Co doubt his commitment or motivation. But it's reasonable to say yesterday wasn't good enough. That's literally being a supporter. Would you prefer we act like a 10 point loss to Louth is great?

MeathAbroad (Meath) - Posts: 82 - 26/05/2024 16:10:55    2547240

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Replying To Stiofan:  "You experts on here make me laugh. You drop your team like a hot potato. Disparaging remarks about people who have put a Lifetime into Meath Football. IF Meath do turn around the season, you will be at the front of the row congratulating the team. The hypocrisy and self-importance of some in this group is laughable. Get behind the team. Destructive Criticism helps no-one."
Accepting mediocrity helps less . No one is saying anything personal against any player past or present people are just stating obvious facts .
Just because someone gives a lifetime to any organisation doesn't exempt them from criticism as long as the criticism doesn't get personal .
The chances of Meath turning this year around are slim or none and as someone that's followed meath since the 80s that's hard to take but it's the truth .
If you don't believe that there's a serious problem in Meath football and everything has went perfect this year that's your opinion but not the opinion of the majority of people who have followed the team all year .
I for one stood by COR until the Longford game when I believe we were shocking the Dublin result and yesterday's game have proven that we have not moved with the times one bit and if anything gone backwards .
Whether you like the way Gaelic football is played or not , personally I don't but until the rules are changed you must try play to the system that works for others something we haven't done .
Every player , Manager , and member of staff deserve huge credit for the time they give to the Jersey but the players also deserve the best of everything and I believe they aren't getting that .

mmc (Meath) - Posts: 278 - 26/05/2024 16:15:52    2547243

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I wonder are the geniuses behind the county board coup two years ago pleased with progress since then?
Clearing house of the majority of experienced players hasn't seemed to be the answer either. Going backwards fast.

TrimRoad (Meath) - Posts: 6 - 26/05/2024 16:38:35    2547260

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Replying To MeathAbroad:  "Comments like this make me laugh. If we'd won yesterday we'd celebrate. But we didn't, we were badly off the pace. Why would we react the same to two completely different events? I've never seen any criticism of COR and Co doubt his commitment or motivation. But it's reasonable to say yesterday wasn't good enough. That's literally being a supporter. Would you prefer we act like a 10 point loss to Louth is great?"
Exactly. Nothing disparaging towards the management at all but people voicing their opinions the manager and his coaching team are out of their depth . I don't think anyone would question the effort and commitment they are giving which I'm sure is off the charts but it has just become clear that they are not up to the task in hand.

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 960 - 26/05/2024 16:40:41    2547262

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Replying To Blackspot09:  "Exactly. Nothing disparaging towards the management at all but people voicing their opinions the manager and his coaching team are out of their depth . I don't think anyone would question the effort and commitment they are giving which I'm sure is off the charts but it has just become clear that they are not up to the task in hand."
I agree facts are facts i agree with your comments The proof was provided yesterday. HOWEVER the clock is still ticking on Colms time frame. He knows 2 wins in next 2 games is still "possible" and then tractors and trailers will be delivering humble pie . Where there is life there is hope! Then there is that REVIEW.

nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1265 - 26/05/2024 17:02:38    2547276

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Just watched the game again - very disappointed with the performance - we were very weak for the goals and the marking was very poor! Mulroy had so much space for the first and Lennon was completely unmarked for the second!

9 points isn't a great return so can't say much about our attack!! I honestly think our performance against Dublin was better than yesterday!

I genuinely thought we would win - obviously misguided optimism! I don't know what to think now!

Royalblufill (Meath) - Posts: 501 - 26/05/2024 17:07:05    2547278

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Replying To Young_gael:  "I went over to the Louth page and left a congratulatory note for them, Im happy for them - theyve been building steadily to the 2nd team in the province for 3/4 years and this is an enormous monkey off their backs. First win against Meath since 1975, thats a great day for them. The day is theirs. It means a lot to them lads, you should go over and be gracious too, theyve a good team there. Maybe now the collective damage from 2010 can be lanced.

For us, this feels like a low. Losing by 10 pts to any Leinster team should be a low, but remember, we lost to Offaly in the championship last year, relegating us to the Tailteann Cup. Few years before that we lost to Longford, few years before that to Westmeath. We get very hard to beat Kildare anymore too. Yesterday was the next obvious step. It shouldnt surprise anyone.

I reiterate what I said yesterday that the season is over.
After that Id only be saying stuff Ive been saying for years. And on and on, the wheels keep turning."
With all due respect young Gael I've read your comment on the Louth forum and sorry but cant get my head round you saying you're absolutely delighted for Louth to get the Meath monkey off their back.How can you be delighted for another team to beat yours by 10 points.It doesn't make sense to me.By all means say well done on the victory (which I have done to Louth folk since)but delighted they beat us seems very odd to me.Again not having a pop at you as I like alot of your comments but find that very strange.

Proudroyal (Meath) - Posts: 283 - 26/05/2024 17:30:22    2547288

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