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Replying To royal1967: "Alot of walkovers starting to be common in most leagues now even see ratoath in div 2 no fielding a team what's going on there" The rules for players playing for both 1st & 2nd teams begin to kick in at this stage of the league and clubs with small pools of players haven't the numbers to get a 2nd team out. So the reason for a lot of walkovers now is probably has more to do with clubs 2nd teams being allowed to field players who have started 6 or less games for the clubs first team. A lot of lads have already started more than 6 games at this stage and can no longer play down. madmeath (Meath) - Posts: 83 - 19/06/2024 14:11:22 2553007 Link
Replying To madmeath: "The rules for players playing for both 1st & 2nd teams begin to kick in at this stage of the league and clubs with small pools of players haven't the numbers to get a 2nd team out. So the reason for a lot of walkovers now is probably has more to do with clubs 2nd teams being allowed to field players who have started 6 or less games for the clubs first team. A lot of lads have already started more than 6 games at this stage and can no longer play down." Yea I think this is probably a major contributor alright and a rule that I'm on the fence about. In one sense it stops clubs loading up their second team with first team players just for the sake of winning, but on the other side it means that a second team lad, getting a chance due to county lads being away/injuries/holidays etc could find himself only being able to play half a league campaign and then left on the bench once lads come back. I think this rule and the list together can end up ruling out up to 20 players (22 in my own club) after round 6 or 7 from second team league which isn't really fair on club or player, if the list submitted is used correctly and monitored then I personally think thats enough ratlag (Meath) - Posts: 582 - 20/06/2024 08:41:31 2553112 Link
Replying To ratlag: "Yea I think this is probably a major contributor alright and a rule that I'm on the fence about. In one sense it stops clubs loading up their second team with first team players just for the sake of winning, but on the other side it means that a second team lad, getting a chance due to county lads being away/injuries/holidays etc could find himself only being able to play half a league campaign and then left on the bench once lads come back. I think this rule and the list together can end up ruling out up to 20 players (22 in my own club) after round 6 or 7 from second team league which isn't really fair on club or player, if the list submitted is used correctly and monitored then I personally think thats enough" I agree. I think it's too much. If clubs are naming 15 players who can't play down as well I'm pretty sure lads who played championship for Meath the year before can't play down regardless if they are on the list of 15 or not. That's more than enough. Everyone else should be allowed play down. Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1003 - 20/06/2024 10:51:16 2553150 Link
Replying To royal1967: "Alot of walkovers starting to be common in most leagues now even see ratoath in div 2 no fielding a team what's going on there" Second team played division 1 v simonstown That's why could not play div 5 Awaywin (Meath) - Posts: 116 - 20/06/2024 12:10:59 2553173 Link
Replying To Awaywin: "Second team played division 1 v simonstown That's why could not play div 5" Div 1 game was Sunday royal1967 (Meath) - Posts: 293 - 20/06/2024 21:28:23 2553271 Link
Replying To royal1967: "Div 1 game was Sunday" Yes Div 5 was Saturday evening and div 1 was early Sunday morning so not possible to play both Awaywin (Meath) - Posts: 116 - 21/06/2024 08:50:00 2553308 Link
Replying To royal1967: "Div 1 game was Sunday" He means that the lads who would have togged for the seconds normally had to fill in a tog for the seniors instead the next day and so couldn't play 2 games in 2 days ratlag (Meath) - Posts: 582 - 21/06/2024 09:08:13 2553312 Link
Replying To ratlag: "He means that the lads who would have togged for the seconds normally had to fill in a tog for the seniors instead the next day and so couldn't play 2 games in 2 days" Well if it can't work in current state, maybe we should revert back to A and B leagues and stop mixing lower ranked clubs with 2nd/3rd teams from larger clubs. It's so inconsistent and usually based on when fixtures are put out! winatallcost (Meath) - Posts: 587 - 21/06/2024 10:16:40 2553329 Link
Replying To winatallcost: "Well if it can't work in current state, maybe we should revert back to A and B leagues and stop mixing lower ranked clubs with 2nd/3rd teams from larger clubs. It's so inconsistent and usually based on when fixtures are put out!" Agreed. Bring back the B Leagues scrap the Premier competitions and put the 2nd and 3rd teams back into the Junior Championships Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1003 - 21/06/2024 11:20:30 2553351 Link
Would it make sense to no longer allow 3rd/4th teams into the A-League set up. Run a separate B-League or summer competition on non-football weeks for those teams. This should result in larger playing pools available for 1st and 2nd teams on A-league weeks and provide a separate more social competition for those playing on third teams. I think current set up works fine until you get into the summer period where clubs with 3 teams are completely stretched. This should result in less concessions. mlc800 (Meath) - Posts: 58 - 21/06/2024 11:21:26 2553352 Link
League only has 1 or 2 rounds left now either way. Has worked pretty well overall. Semi Final places are getting interesting. Most games left have something to play for in last rounds. All county players back now too so expect the likes of Dunshaughlin, Summerhill to kick on. Goldback (Meath) - Posts: 58 - 21/06/2024 12:41:43 2553382 Link
Replying To Goldback: "League only has 1 or 2 rounds left now either way. Has worked pretty well overall. Semi Final places are getting interesting. Most games left have something to play for in last rounds. All county players back now too so expect the likes of Dunshaughlin, Summerhill to kick on." Agreed League has worked well Ratoath problems last week in fielding were their own Because of groups of lads going on holiday together and some injured players This was a once off and albeit it caused many problems with numbers in both hurling and football the leagues in general have been real good with games being competitive and lads playing Awaywin (Meath) - Posts: 116 - 21/06/2024 14:11:30 2553417 Link
When teams are level on points in the league, are the positions decided by head to head or score difference? Cheers KingofTara (Meath) - Posts: 20 - 21/06/2024 14:43:43 2553429 Link
Replying To KingofTara: "When teams are level on points in the league, are the positions decided by head to head or score difference? Cheers" Head to head if only 2 teams royal1967 (Meath) - Posts: 293 - 22/06/2024 14:07:42 2553601 Link
I see in a couple of divisions positions hav been decided by score difference not on head to head first I find this very strange as it is always head to head first royal1967 (Meath) - Posts: 293 - 08/07/2024 07:55:37 2557602 Link
Replying To royal1967: "I see in a couple of divisions positions hav been decided by score difference not on head to head first I find this very strange as it is always head to head first" not sure all teams were aware that it appears score difference is beaing used in league, whereas head to head used in championship hurlingcowboy101 (Meath) - Posts: 17 - 08/07/2024 13:41:28 2557694 Link
Replying To hurlingcowboy101: "not sure all teams were aware that it appears score difference is beaing used in league, whereas head to head used in championship" There seems to be some confusion. Earlier Meath GAA website showed Dunshaughlin playing Curraha in Div 2 semifinal in Dunshaughlin and now its changed to Dunshaughlin playing Trim in Dunsany although the league table showed Dunshaughlin as top of the league. Co Board needs to provide some clarity on why the rules have changed a couple of times during the competition. woodside (Wexford) - Posts: 12 - 08/07/2024 23:16:33 2557890 Link
Replying To woodside: "There seems to be some confusion. Earlier Meath GAA website showed Dunshaughlin playing Curraha in Div 2 semifinal in Dunshaughlin and now its changed to Dunshaughlin playing Trim in Dunsany although the league table showed Dunshaughlin as top of the league. Co Board needs to provide some clarity on why the rules have changed a couple of times during the competition." Co board are now saying it's head to head changes fixtures in at least 3 divisions royal1967 (Meath) - Posts: 293 - 09/07/2024 07:47:08 2557916 Link
Same in division one. I think the fixtures are wrong. It has 1st playing 3rd and 2nd playing 4th. Bracks v Skyrne Hill V Ash I thought it was Skyrne v Ash Hill v Bracks thelutch (Meath) - Posts: 1073 - 09/07/2024 08:35:46 2557926 Link
Replying To thelutch: "Same in division one. I think the fixtures are wrong. It has 1st playing 3rd and 2nd playing 4th. Bracks v Skyrne Hill V Ash I thought it was Skyrne v Ash Hill v Bracks" Shambles royal1967 (Meath) - Posts: 293 - 09/07/2024 09:26:23 2557940 Link