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Absolutely no way this happened. Only way that is plausible is if the player in question was displaying a bad attitude not pulling his weight and was highly disruptive within in the group...... This Conor McGill we are talking about so none of the above would come into play.
Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1003 - 17/02/2023 12:42:44 2458660 Link 2 |
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From what I'm told all of this came into play. McGill is a huge loss on paper but if he isn't buying in fully then it's better to not have him around. Hard to make a judgement when going off Chinese whispers and not the full facts though
LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1523 - 17/02/2023 12:55:35 2458663 Link 7 |
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Why ?? This is ridiculous
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 17/02/2023 14:20:02 2458681 Link 0 |
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If that is true that's disgraceful
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 17/02/2023 14:20:48 2458682 Link 1 |
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If what is been said about the way Conor McGill was treated by management then we have serious problems going forward. I have 0 input into this and am going on total rumours. But if this was previous management who did this to a player this place would be in uproar (and rightly so). I do hope that Colm is not some sort a lunatic in disguise. McGill was voted Meath player of the year for last year. If there has been a falling out then cool heads are needed and perhaps some input from sean boylan , Shane Mcentee and donal keoghan to put this aside. We need McGill. End of story. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 17/02/2023 14:27:05 2458685 Link 1 |
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Usual rumours will be trotted out by some who claim to be in the know, whatever the reason I thrust management to make the call that is of benefit to entire panel. Hoped new setup would get the best out of Conor, however, for whatever reason it has not played out that way. He has not pushed on, showed great promice a few years ago but has struggled since 2020. Still plenty of time for him to return to panel..
seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2195 - 17/02/2023 14:31:04 2458686 Link 10 |
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Was once in O Rourke's company when he refereed to Ratoath as a "bunch of cuckoos"… the irony! GenderNeutral (Meath) - Posts: 114 - 17/02/2023 14:53:08 2458690 Link 4 |
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His fitness levels are nowhere near where they need to be, gets found out regularly in running drills, he's been on the panel a long time and it's not good enough in this age to be showing up as unfit as he does. O'Rourke took a stand and fair play to him. Buy in or go home.
Sheridan2010louth (Meath) - Posts: 182 - 17/02/2023 15:23:22 2458697 Link 6 |
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Could be a blessing for Ratoath, go down the Kilcoo route and none of their players go in, and they just concentrate on dominating the club scene with the hope they push on in the provincial scene
ratlag (Meath) - Posts: 582 - 17/02/2023 15:27:17 2458700 Link 4 |
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No issue with COR dropping him off the panel if all those issues around fitness are true. But if he pulled him up in front the whole squad to do it well then that is an absolute disgrace. I really hope that part isn't true.
Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1003 - 17/02/2023 15:37:40 2458703 Link 5 |
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Totally agree.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 17/02/2023 15:41:03 2458704 Link 0 |
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That could happen and that would cause a huge problem for county.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 17/02/2023 15:41:43 2458705 Link 0 |
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well if he dropped him because he wasn't fit enough or getting close to being fit enough why would other ratoath players not go in? If someone is not reaching the levels required to be on the panel they get dropped off the panel. The other nonsense about him doing it in front of the whole squad is just that. Nonsense
Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1003 - 17/02/2023 15:44:18 2458706 Link 4 |
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But let's be honest he has been very good past few years. Won player of year last year if I remember correctly, so is it a case that he is returning from injury and perhaps hasn't yet got fully fit. If that is the case and if as appears now he was told this in front of panel then that's two things Colm's got wrong. I'm not having a go here I just don't think that's how to handle a situation if that is what way it was. Also there is a couple of passengers on the panel who shouldn't be there but are because of their club. That makes me question why McGill was singled out.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 17/02/2023 15:45:56 2458707 Link 1 |
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Black spot, saw the comments re McGill this morning and asked around. What I've been told is 1) yes McGill has been dropped. I'm not gonna speak on the why. There's nothing sinister in that, I'm not gonna blacken a players name or reputation. He's given plenty over the years, let that be his legacy 2) no he was not dropped in front of the entire panel and "made an example off" There'll be plenty of versions and he said she said that'll do the rounds. In the same way we were told lenihan and mcentee never fell out, despite me witnessing them have a cut at each other in multiple games, we'll hear versions of this story. People will believe what they want to believe. It sounds out of character for Colm, but who amongst us fully knows. Anyways good to all tomorrow, onwards we go. This is a free shot. Talk of we almost beat them last year is null and void, after that they went one way we went another. They're a superior team playing a system they're accustomed too, against a team in its 6th competetive match under new management. Key for me as always that continuous improvement. Make less errors than the previous games, and don't make the same mistakes over and over. brian (Meath) - Posts: 1973 - 17/02/2023 15:53:18 2458708 Link 14 |
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"Couple of passengers on the panel who shouldn't be there but are because of their club". Have to disagree with you there RoyalDunne. I disagreed when people said that about Andy and I disagree now. The Meath job is hard and pressurised enough without making it harder on yourself by favouring clubs and I don't think Colm cares what club you play for
LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1523 - 17/02/2023 17:15:57 2458721 Link 5 |
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And yet he's still by far and away the best defender in the County! His training prowess has never been something to shout about, his match day prowess has rarely been found wanting! So what if he's "found out" in a drill…It's not the Harlem Globetrotters!! The many who have fallen victim of him must be scratching their heads!!! A bad look for O Rourke GenderNeutral (Meath) - Posts: 114 - 17/02/2023 17:34:59 2458723 Link 0 |
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Yes indeed Dont know what happens off the field . I would not believe COR would drop any player in a humiliating way as mentioned . Full stop !I do believe the best available 20 players will be in Derry. I do believe a win is likely for Meath if we can see a little bit of that continuous improvement which as you say is the only objective with any meaning on our road of progression. No doubt the road ahead is tough for all concerned .Commitment by players will be key no doubt .I hope they enjoy the learning experience firstly, I think Leadership will not be found wanting now in supporting players who are given the honour of wearing the Meath jersey. at a time when little is expected especially from the media. Meath the underdogs just what the doctor ordered.!
nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1266 - 17/02/2023 17:53:49 2458726 Link 17 |
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No need for the sh*t stirring lads, if you'd a bit of class you'd keep that comment to yourself. A lot of people on here would hear many comments in peoples company but would have the good grace and decorum not to tell everything they hear about what so and so said.
Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 1352 - 17/02/2023 18:05:56 2458731 Link 10 |
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This wouldn't be out of character of O Rourke, anyone that is familiar with Simonstowns 2016 season will remember he had no issues dropping a specific player. He has also dropped players for school matches who would be guaranteed starters for discipline issues, so he doesn't take prisoners. UsernameInvalid (Meath) - Posts: 403 - 17/02/2023 19:19:03 2458736 Link 2 |