No improvement from last year.
Back to the drawing board. And a long 3 hr plus journey home.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 18/02/2023 18:36:37    2458894

Yes back to drawing board. Louth a chance to redeem ourselves

seasiderblues (Meath) - Posts: 352 - 18/02/2023 18:46:28    2458896

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 18/02/2023 18:54:21    2458902

A shambles

Utdroyal (Meath) - Posts: 65 - 18/02/2023 18:54:59    2458903

Lots of work to do for COR over the next few years.

Men against boys really but they did their best, just not able to compete with the top 10 teams the last number of years.

Should have no problem staying in Division 2 after first 2 wins, another win should be enough and we should target the Louth and limerick games.

Kerry
Galway
Mayo
Roscommon
Dublin
Derry
Tyrone
Donegal
Armagh

Not near their standard yet but hopefully we can build to get to that level, will take at least 3 - 4 years I would imagine.

thelutch (Meath) - Posts: 1073 - 18/02/2023 18:56:11    2458904

I'm not pro Mcentee or anti orourke at all, but maybe all the hams that were saying it was all the managers fault over the last few years see now that it's a tough job.... doesn't matter who ya pick, our players are mid div 2 at the minute . Goal is to beat louth and limerick now to make sure we are in all ireland, no other game matters. We actually could do with Dublin winning tmoro which I never thought I'd say. Keep cork on 2 points

southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 937 - 18/02/2023 19:04:36    2458907

Outclassed in every department no exceptions. However , for now this is about learning and improvement .On learning massive amount to be done including management and over reliance on high ball and dealing with very defensive set ups. On the improvement factor no improvement visible in the circumstances..To be fair we have to accept that Meath are at the start of a big learning curve by comparison with Derry .If all concerned learned seriousely from this then we have every chance of improvement .I believe COR will be well placed to use this disapointment as a reality check including that the 7 goals in 2 games was a false reading. Massive workload ahead and i now fully expect a win against Louth on the road to recovery .

nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1266 - 18/02/2023 19:07:37    2458909

Just outplayed today, disappointed with the margin of defeat but perhaps a worthwhile reality check, we not as bad as shown today but not on an instant upward curve either. What's important now is the reaction next weekend, a local derby with Louth could be the perfect match to cleanse today's defeat, I expect Meath to win their next two matches and have 8 points going into the Dublin match, I can still see us finishing the best of the rest in the division outside of the two promotion teams which I think will be Derry and Dublin, Derry are a very decent side and will be the best in Ulster this year again I expect just a pity their manager can't have some decorum on the sideline and refrain from his constant spitting, people used to give out about Andy McEntee's behavior but Gallagher makes him look like a perfect gentleman.

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3743 - 18/02/2023 20:00:27    2458919

Up there with the very bad performances of the last decade by a Meath side.

I'll watch it back before going into detail but from what I can remember our two wing backs were cleaned out of it in the first half while Campion, Morris and Lenihan were all poor up front.

There was a couple of positives, the fullback line are improving game by game but got little protection today and were left exposed. Thomas O Reilly was the pick of the forwards. Might be worth trying him at 11 with Scully moving to the wing and having Walsh inside with two of Morris, Lenihan, Moriarty and Costello

UsernameInvalid (Meath) - Posts: 403 - 18/02/2023 20:01:26    2458920

Big reality check today shows the work we have to do before we can compete with the top teams. Derry have been improving under this management for the last four years and are a top four team, whereas Meath are only starting our journey and starting from a very low base. Expect there will be more downs that ups over next year or so. Think most supporters would have been more than happy to have four points after three games. Few teams will beat Derry at home, especially in thoes conditions, its about how we learn from todays harsh lesson, something we have failed to do over last few years. Some of the new lads show promise and the heads did not drop, so expect us to learn and get back to winning ways next week.

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2195 - 18/02/2023 21:06:15    2458928

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1003 - 18/02/2023 21:21:51    2458932

Beat Louth and this game be quickly forgotten.

Won't be promoted though but staying up was the realistic target.

Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 1352 - 18/02/2023 21:45:17    2458945

Ask anyone and they would have said we were in for a loss today. What I can't understand is why didn't we just shut the game down in the first half and bring everyone back. If we were in the game at half time then with the wind in the 2nd half we could have atleast made a game of it.

Foley91 (Meath) - Posts: 418 - 19/02/2023 07:25:08    2458951

Conor glass and Brendan Rodgers made Ronan Jones and Brian Conlon look like Minors, different level altogether, every game we seem to be getting abused in midfield if we're being honest, would like to see Jack flynn in there very soon, he has the muscle not be getting pushed around and his skillet is a lot higher than the other 2. Some of the turnovers Jones and conlon made in the first half you wouldn't get away with at junior football level.

Sheridan2010louth (Meath) - Posts: 182 - 19/02/2023 10:03:59    2458963

Ashrules (Dublin) - Posts: 549 - 19/02/2023 10:09:17    2458965

Headed up to Owenbeg last night and let's be honest it was an embarrassment. Game was over even before the second goal went in. Tried to play a kicking game but never kicked out of defense so Derry were always set up when we attacked. Physically we looked a mile off. Derry so much bigger, stronger and able to win contests. When the game was slow and in a stalemate we lacked any sort of game sense, running into blind alleys. Serious questions have to be asked about mental toughness. It's been a few years where against good teams the game has been done straight away and we haven't put up any sort of performance. Incredibly frustrating and so far to go to even get competitive

LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1523 - 19/02/2023 10:22:22    2458967

Sorry have to knock a few things on the head. After reading back here and watching game when I got home. Nonsense talk of taking over a team in low ebb. Maybe mentally but not practically. Fact is Colm and co took over a midtable division 2 team as many myself included felt for last two years we weren't achieving what we were capable of. That's first thing. To say otherwise is bs. Use the excuses of new management settling in, never managed county team before (u21s) was long time ago so won't count that, etc etc. but let's not let RTÉ and others cloud the facts. Colm took over a team and panel that had stagnated under Andy. There was no improvement last year, if going on year by year our performances v cork Derry and Clare were actually better last year , so we knock that talk on the head.
Colm is learning and he needs to be open to learning realising he can make mistakes, that needs to be his first lesson. I am making mistakes, even the commentators said their were lads waiting on a high ball in while surrounded and not looking for a ball or coming out to take a hand pass. The fb line was shocking and I think it may show why our free count was so high in previous games, the players have no confidence in the backline.
I was talking to a few people yesterday and one in particular was not a fan of either previous or present management and I won't repeat what they were saying as tbh it sounded like vitriol and grudges and tbh Must of it would end someone up on a charge of slander. But he did say one thing that stuck with me, he asked me how the likes of menton, McGill, Devine and James mcentee must be feeling sitting at home and watching Conlon start ahead of McGowan. Now I did try to explain that mentons choice was his own but he was having none of it. But I do think starting Conlon ahead of McGowan was a bad call by Colm and co, but that cannot be blamed for that abysmal performance. We knew what we would face and yet went out and tried to put a square peg in a round hole, that is down to management . Now it's a learning curve for management and while I and others hoped for a bounce from new set up it doesn't look like we will get one. I don't believe we will get relegated as we are better than that and two previous managers managed to keep us up every time so I do think that's a odd base to have a objective. Objective one should be to play all ire I said this all along . So finishing 6th will probably not do that. So we have to hope for other results to go our way. I can see it coming down us v Kildare as to who will be in all ire series if things go bad.
So what should happen, first things first. Colm drives to ashbourne and asks Brian would he give it another go ? If he is adamant then leave it at that, second thing is a trip to rathoath, hey Connor look we both said things we didn't mean for the good of the team (who are allegedly annoyed at the treatment of a very popular teammate) I'll forget what you said and you do the same and I'll see you on Tuesday evening. That is what is needed now. To unify the panel.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 19/02/2023 10:35:35    2458969

Brutal stuff scoring 3 points from 35 mins and leaking scores every couple of mins just show how bad we really are . Goals in the last game vs Clare glossed over what was another rubbish performance in front of the posts with only 8 points. Colm will try his best but same old story just haven't got the players anymore.

SheridansTry (Meath) - Posts: 180 - 19/02/2023 10:53:38    2458970

Brian Menton is on the go with Meath since 2010, he has opted out. I hope we get to contest the All Ireland series, but if we don't then we need to accept our level and build from there. Management has a free pass this year, its really next year progression needs to be seen consistently.

atta (Meath) - Posts: 704 - 19/02/2023 11:41:52    2458985

Are we ever going to fix the midfield issue is that hard to ask to find one lad who can catch a ball

Meathfor@life (Meath) - Posts: 85 - 19/02/2023 13:36:54    2459004