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Meath Vs Wicklow

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Replying To ratlag:  "I'd hardly say a lack of chat on a site like this means there is no interest in the game. There are about 10 genuine posters on it and the rest are wind up merchants.
There good interest and even optimism around my club anyway and hopefully we will get a good turnout for the game and put in a decent performance as well."
what would be really difficult to swallow...would be a continuing decline by Dublin....and Kildare , instead of Us...being the ones to take that opportunity and go on to win a Leinster title...if that happens...oh lordie..

Thelongwoodslasher (Meath) - Posts: 401 - 28/04/2022 11:05:32    2413809

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Replying To Thelongwoodslasher:  "what would be really difficult to swallow...would be a continuing decline by Dublin....and Kildare , instead of Us...being the ones to take that opportunity and go on to win a Leinster title...if that happens...oh lordie.."
i find it difficult to post stuff on here now simply because I have lived abroad for a number of years but on this forum since the beginning (2005 or so) . I know very little about club football which is understandable. You would hope we will dispose of Wicklow on Sunday which sets us up for a day out in croker. My only issue with the whole McEntee reign is we haven't really learned anything from division 1 and the super eights , it hasn't brought us on which we thought it might do for whatever reason. One positive note recently though is we seemed to have settled on a decent keeper which was badly needed. From what I'm told by those in the know is that we could have a decent championship if we avoid any major injuries.

meath1987 (Meath) - Posts: 134 - 28/04/2022 13:07:30    2413848

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Replying To Thelongwoodslasher:  "i have a lot of sympathy for the squad (and Management)...as everyone knows this is the last year of this Management Team , and that is a terrible overhang to have around the squad, before a ball is even kicked. If im reading the general mood correctly i think the general sense of pessimism is allied to the realisation that this Year is a washout for the Seniors , is the lack of an apparent New regime with the necessary energy enthusiasm , vision & credentials to step in
We all must accept that when andy goes, .two things will happen to our older players ...either they themselves will decide that they cant go on with yet another new managment team, or the new Manager will look to side-line them in time for new blood....that is the way of the world...but it doesn't make it something to look forward too....so overall....death by a thousand cuts in 2022.....and then slow rebuild starting in 2023...if we are lucky"
I think that is accurate. However I think both management and players who may call it a day will want to go out with a bang. And that's why I'm thinking everything and I mean everything is been put into Leinster, I do fear if we don't reach the final that we will throw our hat at it. But if we reach the final then I believe we will throw the kitchen sink at whoever we play, it would be criminal for the likes of keoghan, menton , McGill etc to not at least have a Leinster medal to look back on.
At least players like orurke farrrel ward biggy Sheridan burke bray etc had one . So hopefully.
I know lot of people thinking this year is a washout for the above reasons I'm not so sure , I do think next year will be though with new management and probably a lot of retirees. Next year for me is all about avoiding tailteann cup.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 28/04/2022 13:13:28    2413854

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Replying To Thelongwoodslasher:  "what would be really difficult to swallow...would be a continuing decline by Dublin....and Kildare , instead of Us...being the ones to take that opportunity and go on to win a Leinster title...if that happens...oh lordie.."
I just think we might be the ones. Not evidence based but I'd imagine this has been the goal all year. From the limited bit I heard the panel seem to be flying, no major injuries everyone in great form and total unity.
But all the above does not win games as we know.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 28/04/2022 13:29:37    2413861

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Replying To Thelongwoodslasher:  "what would be really difficult to swallow...would be a continuing decline by Dublin....and Kildare , instead of Us...being the ones to take that opportunity and go on to win a Leinster title...if that happens...oh lordie.."
Or even worse ---- Louth!!!

Royalblufill (Meath) - Posts: 511 - 28/04/2022 13:56:03    2413874

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Replying To Thejoeshow:  "Agree Jinxie, I don't think James is a natural 4 anymore and likes to get forward, if he plays hickey would step into fullback lines I would guess.

Against better sides I would imagine James plays in half forwards and sweeps to an extent"
Yep thats where James is most effective. And once every 8 or 9 games he brings his shooting boots and weighs in with a couple of points which is an added boost.....

Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6347 - 28/04/2022 14:07:41    2413880

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Replying To royaldunne:  "I think that is accurate. However I think both management and players who may call it a day will want to go out with a bang. And that's why I'm thinking everything and I mean everything is been put into Leinster, I do fear if we don't reach the final that we will throw our hat at it. But if we reach the final then I believe we will throw the kitchen sink at whoever we play, it would be criminal for the likes of keoghan, menton , McGill etc to not at least have a Leinster medal to look back on.
At least players like orurke farrrel ward biggy Sheridan burke bray etc had one . So hopefully.
I know lot of people thinking this year is a washout for the above reasons I'm not so sure , I do think next year will be though with new management and probably a lot of retirees. Next year for me is all about avoiding tailteann cup."
I'm not sure who all these retirees are that people are talking about, McGill is 29/30 and Menton & Keoghan are 30/31 maybe?? After that the rest of the squad are all in their 20's to the best of my knowledge so I don't see why any would retire based on age anyway, none have any long term injuries the way the likes of Newman had so it would only really be lads walking away from county football which I don't think would happen with a new management team coming in, if anything that would entice some players back

ratlag (Meath) - Posts: 582 - 28/04/2022 14:27:53    2413886

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Replying To Jinxie:  "Yep thats where James is most effective. And once every 8 or 9 games he brings his shooting boots and weighs in with a couple of points which is an added boost....."
Hopefully he saves the boots for Dublin or Kildare!!!

Thejoeshow (Meath) - Posts: 687 - 28/04/2022 14:44:11    2413893

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Replying To ratlag:  "I'm not sure who all these retirees are that people are talking about, McGill is 29/30 and Menton & Keoghan are 30/31 maybe?? After that the rest of the squad are all in their 20's to the best of my knowledge so I don't see why any would retire based on age anyway, none have any long term injuries the way the likes of Newman had so it would only really be lads walking away from county football which I don't think would happen with a new management team coming in, if anything that would entice some players back"
While I see what you are saying I do think many of the experienced players might view the commitment v reward as a problem going forward , also that a new regime might want to look to the future and build and might not rely on some players as much as previous one. Look it's all speculation at this stage, I do know one player who has said this is his last year regardless of who is there next year. I am absolutely not going to say his name. Now can he be convinced to stay another year ?? Hopefully.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 29/04/2022 11:42:20    2414032

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There is a subdued atmosphere around this game largely because of the so-so league campaign, and particularly the first few games v. Galway and Roscommon. The feeling, even among the moderate majority of Meath fans, is that this season is a bit of a write off and that the management and system is in its endgame. There's a writing on the wall type of feeling about Meath at present. Personally I felt that the first few league games was like the end of an era which began in 2018 and encompassed the peaks of our best players in the 2010s decade. The getting to division one, competitive albeit limited nature of the performances against top sides, and back to back Leinster finals now seems like a long time ago. Things have come full circle and councidentally the team does feel like its coming near its end, in my view.

To add however, the character shown v. Offaly, Cork, Down and Derry was very commendable, and once again this Meath team has shown great spirit in adversity to stay in division 2. I personally feel like a year or two in Div.3 with a young team and new managemebt would do a lot of good, but saying such things doesent meet many kind ears.

For Wicklow, youd have to expect a win, and a good showing. Given the nature of Leinster now as a whole its hard to pick a winner as the Dubs have declined so dramatically so Id be hopeful of an outsiders chance. There isnt much between Meath and Westmeath, Offaly and Louth. Dublin and Kildare are out on their own.

Young_gael (Meath) - Posts: 596 - 30/04/2022 10:20:41    2414114

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Bit of a shake up for starting 15 which is badly needed. Or will we revert to type before throw in, hopefully not, looks like a more balanced side.

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2195 - 30/04/2022 11:59:43    2414137

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Replying To Young_gael:  "There is a subdued atmosphere around this game largely because of the so-so league campaign, and particularly the first few games v. Galway and Roscommon. The feeling, even among the moderate majority of Meath fans, is that this season is a bit of a write off and that the management and system is in its endgame. There's a writing on the wall type of feeling about Meath at present. Personally I felt that the first few league games was like the end of an era which began in 2018 and encompassed the peaks of our best players in the 2010s decade. The getting to division one, competitive albeit limited nature of the performances against top sides, and back to back Leinster finals now seems like a long time ago. Things have come full circle and councidentally the team does feel like its coming near its end, in my view.

To add however, the character shown v. Offaly, Cork, Down and Derry was very commendable, and once again this Meath team has shown great spirit in adversity to stay in division 2. I personally feel like a year or two in Div.3 with a young team and new managemebt would do a lot of good, but saying such things doesent meet many kind ears.

For Wicklow, youd have to expect a win, and a good showing. Given the nature of Leinster now as a whole its hard to pick a winner as the Dubs have declined so dramatically so Id be hopeful of an outsiders chance. There isnt much between Meath and Westmeath, Offaly and Louth. Dublin and Kildare are out on their own."
Dublin and Kildare both will ply their trade in division two with us next year. That been said I still think Dublin are the benchmark for Leinster and probably not without a chance of winning a all ire. Kildare on the other hand ? No I just don't buy it. And indeed could be up against it v louth.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 30/04/2022 14:31:09    2414173

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I would also like to add that on a broader scale there is a sense of dissillusionment with moderates, who are a majority of Meath supporters and always have been, with the running of the game here, which is not a coincidence with the decline in the fortune of the senior mens team. In fact it runs hand in hand. If our neighbours, the smallest county in Ireland, with a very limited GAA population can plan, execute and start to build a stadium within a few years, and a top quality manager can bring them to the decent standards of Division 2 at a minimum again in a few years, then what on Earth is the excuse for the Pairc Tailteann fiasco, which at this stage is an embarrassment? just a thought. Is it any wonder really?

Young_gael (Meath) - Posts: 596 - 30/04/2022 15:01:31    2414183

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Anyway team looks good. The new guys are getting their chance. I'm very optimistic and I was out home today and great buzz around for championship, as one fella said to me who will remember or care about the league if we win Leinster? Fair point I think. My one worry is a few of them seem very dismissive of Wicklow and looking forward to who we might get in draw. I think that is more the case with not so much interest on a broader scale

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 30/04/2022 17:45:53    2414222

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Best of luck to meath tomorrow and for the rest of the year, we have nothing to lose and are written off by everyone including our own so there's no pressure whatsoever on this meath team which makes a change, Dublin aren't what they used to be and meath kildare fixtures are always 50/50 regardless of who has the better players and you'd back meath all day long against the rest of leinster, hopefully meath go fighting and drop every ounce of sweat for mcentee in his last year and at 11-1 with paddy Power might be worth a punt for leinster, hon the royals.

Royal.Legend (Meath) - Posts: 681 - 30/04/2022 17:55:06    2414223

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Ok just heard on RTÉ sport radio that winners of Dublin v Wexford play winner of Meath v Wicklow. Is this accurate? Has the draw taken place ?

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 30/04/2022 18:26:00    2414227

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Ok just heard on RTÉ sport radio that winners of Dublin v Wexford play winner of Meath v Wicklow. Is this accurate? Has the draw taken place ?"
Just heard the exact same.

Can't find it anywhere online but 100% the commentator said the Dublin and Wexford we're playing to face Wicklow or Meath in the Leinster semi final.
pointless having an open draw if it's held BEFORE the quarter finals take place....

Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6347 - 30/04/2022 18:50:33    2414232

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Ok just heard on RTÉ sport radio that winners of Dublin v Wexford play winner of Meath v Wicklow. Is this accurate? Has the draw taken place ?"
Don't think the draw takes place until tomorrow royaldunne but I could be wrong.

Royal.Legend (Meath) - Posts: 681 - 30/04/2022 18:58:41    2414234

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Replying To Royal.Legend:  "Don't think the draw takes place until tomorrow royaldunne but I could be wrong."
Draw IS tomorrow (Sunday) evening.

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1080 - 30/04/2022 19:30:11    2414240

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Replying To Jinxie:  "Just heard the exact same.

Can't find it anywhere online but 100% the commentator said the Dublin and Wexford we're playing to face Wicklow or Meath in the Leinster semi final.
pointless having an open draw if it's held BEFORE the quarter finals take place...."
Exactly. I couldn't believe my ears. I was all excited for the draw, but now I'm worried that it's fixed.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 30/04/2022 19:53:33    2414246

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