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Meath V Roscommon

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Replying To Thejoeshow:  "Expecting a loss on the weekend, roscommon in good form and Meath at a very low ebb. Watching a lot of the games over the weekend what is clear is that having Joey Wallace and Banty in full forward won't work. They aren't big and strong enough at this level; end of.

Two things can be true, you can be one of the best footballers are club level in the county but lack the attributes for intercounty. Both suited to making an impact off the bench but we have tried this enough times now and we can't make the ball stick inside.

Hogan
Clarke
Keogan
Ryan
Hickey
McEntee (no he's not good enough but he's captain)
Harnan
Conlan
Devine
Costello
McMahon
O Reilly
Morris
Walsh
O Sullivan"
'Two things can be true, you can be one of the best footballers are club level in the county but lack the attributes for intercounty'

I think that is a really good point - I think a lot of us get carried away with pushing guys we have seen do well with their clubs or at under 20 and then find when they come into Senior games they struggle! The fact is there is really no easy match ups for lads at Senior level.

Royalblufill (Meath) - Posts: 479 - 01/02/2022 13:57:30    2397712

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Replying To Crinigan:  "I'll put my money where my mouth is-


Hogan (looks promising )
Clarke (haven't seen enough but Galway ff line did as they pleased last Sunday)
Keogan (IC standard)
Ryan (good club player)
Hickey (IC standard)
McEntee (good club player)
Harnan (hasn't kicked on at all it seems since u21 prodigy, not sure he's still IC standard)
Conlan (hasn't kicked on, not sure IC standard)
Devine (good club player)
Costello (IC standard)
McMahon (IC standard but not consistent enough for a good IC team)
O Reilly (starting to realise potential but jury still out, is he a forward for a top 10 intercounty team? I don't think so)
Morris (IC standard)
Walsh (jury still out for me, not kicking on)
O Sullivan (IC standard but if he was a Dub or a Kerry man he'd be a tenacious attacking corner back)."
I think you've nailed this to be fair .

The only minor changes I would make is the likes of COS and McMahon McGill while I agree they are IC standard they are probably Division 2 IC standard. More often than not they have failed to make a dent against the top 8 teams. I think it's one of our biggest issues actually. The majority of our lads who are IC standard are in my opinion not Top 8 IC standard. Keoghan being the exception is at this stage probably a little past his best . The likes of Hickey Costello Morris could be top 8 IC standard if they keep improving where as the likes of McGill Menton COS McMahon are unlikely to improve enough to be Top 8 players

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 870 - 01/02/2022 14:03:07    2397716

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Replying To Blackspot09:  "Well him or any of them being good enough is probably a matter of opinion but what isn't up for debate is that he was one of the few lads on sunday who didn't throw the towel in."
Yeah. Lot been said about him been capt. He can't help who his farther is. He was one of very few who worked on Sunday. And many of those that didn't are way more talented. Give me that attitude over the primadonna one any day.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 01/02/2022 14:04:30    2397717

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Replying To Royalblufill:  "'Two things can be true, you can be one of the best footballers are club level in the county but lack the attributes for intercounty'

I think that is a really good point - I think a lot of us get carried away with pushing guys we have seen do well with their clubs or at under 20 and then find when they come into Senior games they struggle! The fact is there is really no easy match ups for lads at Senior level."
And for some reason over the last 10/15 years we seem to be only producing the really good club players. Barring the few exceptions that is most of our lads fall into the bracket. Particularly in the forwards. We have dozens of brilliant club forwards but very few have been able to make the step up

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 870 - 01/02/2022 14:06:20    2397718

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Hogan
Keoghan
Ryan
Harkin
Hickey
Harnan
Shane McEntee
Devine
Costello
O Sullivan
Walsh
T O Reilly
McMahon
O Fionnegan
Morris

Picking this, midfield is a headache. I went through every senior club team there and can't think of stand out midfielder except Shane O Rourke or Ronan Jones.

Jack Flynn & Daithi McGowan play most of their football at wing forward. Same with Costello for Dunshaughlin and even Devine at Na Fianna doesn't start every game at midfield he plays a lot in the half forward line. Harnan plays between center back and midfield for Moynalvey while Shane McEntee plays wing back for Dunboyne. Tones midfield isn't mobile enough from what I've seen. I would consider bringing Harry Rooney in just for his fielding ability but he might not offer us much else.

UsernameInvalid (Meath) - Posts: 355 - 01/02/2022 14:07:56    2397720

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Replying To Blackspot09:  "And for some reason over the last 10/15 years we seem to be only producing the really good club players. Barring the few exceptions that is most of our lads fall into the bracket. Particularly in the forwards. We have dozens of brilliant club forwards but very few have been able to make the step up"
I think attacking strategy and coaching doesn't help. Can't help but think if you put 2 marquee forwards into our system they would be blunted too. Attackers are confidence players by their nature, just not sure we are providing an environment for them to thrive in either.

Thejoeshow (Meath) - Posts: 687 - 01/02/2022 15:08:11    2397746

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Replying To Thejoeshow:  "There absolutely is, point I was making was he is captain so will start regardless. I also made the point the Joey and banty aren't good enough and dropped others from the side? So not just singling out one player. Make it make sense if your going to start a row Altho 90% on here is a row for sake of it"
Fair enough, I take your point.

Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 1319 - 01/02/2022 18:47:13    2397801

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Roscommon will be without the three Daly's, David Murray , Hubert Darcy and the two Murtaghs this weekend. Most likely Conor Cox too. 6 of these are certain starters. We're expecting a backlash after Galway but the lads that are standing in for the above are performing well knowing that if they get a run of form they'll be guaranteeing themselves for the panel in championship. Looking forward to a battle.

Ros2013 (Roscommon) - Posts: 519 - 01/02/2022 20:59:06    2397829

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Roscommon will be even stronger with five to six Padraig Pearses players back in training this week.

summerof09 (Meath) - Posts: 315 - 02/02/2022 09:10:19    2397851

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Replying To summerof09:  "Roscommon will be even stronger with five to six Padraig Pearses players back in training this week."
I'd be surprised if any pearse lads are involved . You would imagine they'd be given at least 1 week off after the long club season. It's usually the case.

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 870 - 02/02/2022 09:36:31    2397857

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Replying To Blackspot09:  "I'd be surprised if any pearse lads are involved . You would imagine they'd be given at least 1 week off after the long club season. It's usually the case."
Cunningham has said none of the 6 or 7 Pearses lads or 2 Murtaghs will be involved this week after finishing up with their clubs last weekend.

sourmilk93 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1145 - 02/02/2022 09:55:48    2397866

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Ok it's time to get real for players and management this is a game in navan, first in many years with no restrictions. After a bad defeat. Time to show who we bloody well are. We are Meath. Hit everyone hard get the passes right, don't be afraid to back yourself in a shooting position. Go for it. And win.
Hon the royal

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 03/02/2022 09:48:53    2398055

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Ok it's time to get real for players and management this is a game in navan, first in many years with no restrictions. After a bad defeat. Time to show who we bloody well are. We are Meath. Hit everyone hard get the passes right, don't be afraid to back yourself in a shooting position. Go for it. And win.
Hon the royal"
RD i admire and love the passion you have and absolute optimism no matter the events previous. I'll be at this game in quite trepidation. Unfortunately i think we'll see exactly what we are, an average team who has no identity and doesn't know who it really is.

Think its now time to admit that the team your talking about is a distant figment of many of our imaginations and hasn't been seen in a good 10+ years.

I'd love to see the team you're talking about but I'll not be putting the mortgage on that team showing up on Sunday

brian (Meath) - Posts: 1954 - 03/02/2022 10:26:22    2398061

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Replying To brian:  "RD i admire and love the passion you have and absolute optimism no matter the events previous. I'll be at this game in quite trepidation. Unfortunately i think we'll see exactly what we are, an average team who has no identity and doesn't know who it really is.

Think its now time to admit that the team your talking about is a distant figment of many of our imaginations and hasn't been seen in a good 10+ years.

I'd love to see the team you're talking about but I'll not be putting the mortgage on that team showing up on Sunday"
Harsh truth. We're only as good as Westmeath.

summerof09 (Meath) - Posts: 315 - 03/02/2022 12:03:06    2398090

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Team that I would go with on Sunday

1. Harry Hogan
2. Robin Clarke
3. Donal Keogan
4. Eoin Harkin
5. Cathal Hickey
6. Shane McEntee
7. Matthew Costello
8. Padraig Harnan
9. Ethan Devine
10. Cillian O'Sullivan
11. Shane Walsh
12. Eamon Wallace
13. Jordan Morris
14. Thomas O'Reilly
15. Joey Wallace

BigJoe14 (Meath) - Posts: 935 - 03/02/2022 17:35:28    2398193

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Horses for courses
1 h hogan
2 r clarke
3 d keogan
4.e harkin
5.c hickey
6.p harnan
7.m costello
8.e devine
9.shane walsh
10.j.scully
11.c.sullivan
13.j.morris
14.t oreilly
15.niall kane
Changes must be made and for panel weve got play kane in cormer move out as sweeper.walsh midfield hes playing deep as it is.scully from what ive seen and heard from training could play his part.no more passengers let them at it.workrate effort is a given that each player can control.

Borderroyal (Meath) - Posts: 488 - 03/02/2022 19:29:50    2398215

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Last Sunday made it very easy to avoid this game. Going to Croke Park to support Trim….so God willing I will have at least one trip to HQ this year.

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1066 - 03/02/2022 19:46:28    2398218

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Replying To Borderroyal:  "Horses for courses
1 h hogan
2 r clarke
3 d keogan
4.e harkin
5.c hickey
6.p harnan
7.m costello
8.e devine
9.shane walsh
10.j.scully
11.c.sullivan
13.j.morris
14.t oreilly
15.niall kane
Changes must be made and for panel weve got play kane in cormer move out as sweeper.walsh midfield hes playing deep as it is.scully from what ive seen and heard from training could play his part.no more passengers let them at it.workrate effort is a given that each player can control."
E wallace num 12

Borderroyal (Meath) - Posts: 488 - 04/02/2022 07:16:35    2398244

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Ok it's time to get real for players and management this is a game in navan, first in many years with no restrictions. After a bad defeat. Time to show who we bloody well are. We are Meath. Hit everyone hard get the passes right, don't be afraid to back yourself in a shooting position. Go for it. And win.
Hon the royal"
" we are meath"
Its not the 90s anymore?

hurlit (Meath) - Posts: 416 - 04/02/2022 09:53:39    2398259

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Replying To hurlit:  "" we are meath"
Its not the 90s anymore?"
Who are we then ? Tipp ? We are Meath. Unless I'm mistaken.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 04/02/2022 20:45:11    2398356

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