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Well done to the team. It's was a brilliant performance today, squeezed Dublin, gave them nothing, won all the dirty ball. The Louth game in the sun was won by our forwards and midfielders in the second half. Today I think our backs came to the fore and came out with so much ball. It was definitely a deserved win, roll on Roscommon/Sligo on the 21st/22nd

LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1464 - 02/08/2021 18:07:46    2366966

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Replying To LeitrimRoyal99:  "Where did you see this? It still feels odd seeing Meath on the TV and not in person. Meath have only won 5 Leinsters at senior, minors/17's or 21's/20's, two of them have been in the last month and unfortunately the crowd has been extremely limited at either. Hopefully there's a few thousand allowed at the all Ireland semi final"
Government publication signed by Stephen Donnelly, came across it first when sports minster Jack Chambers linked the info.

ispeakwisdom (Roscommon) - Posts: 2487 - 02/08/2021 18:17:09    2366968

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Stick that Sean Emannuell goal on repeat and I'll watch it a hundred times, Congrats to all involved what a performance. No point in singling any players out for special mention as everyone was superb.

redser123 (Meath) - Posts: 403 - 02/08/2021 20:27:22    2367027

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Replying To Blackspot09:  "Surely they could have played it in Croker before the Senior Final so there would be no problem with attendance"
How many tickets were available for game
From looking at it on the telly big portion of the stand was empty

head4dblackspot (Meath) - Posts: 513 - 03/08/2021 08:41:00    2367126

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Terrific result, well done to all. Have we ever won back to back Leinster minor titles before?

aghref (Meath) - Posts: 148 - 03/08/2021 08:46:36    2367129

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3 Leinsters Minor Titles in 4 years around 25% of our 13 titles in recent times.... Maybe our underage structure changes in last Decade or so are not so bad after all !!!

Brownepat (Meath) - Posts: 532 - 03/08/2021 09:14:34    2367134

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Will their semi final be played before the senior All-Ireland semi final? And do we know which one?

Belt (Meath) - Posts: 253 - 03/08/2021 10:51:03    2367169

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Replying To Belt:  "Will their semi final be played before the senior All-Ireland semi final? And do we know which one?"
Very hard to know, I assume we meet the Connacht champions, the final Roscommon v Sligo is fixed for Friday evening. And the Ulster championship is only at semi final stage. In those circumstances it's hard to see the Senior and Minor s/fs on the same afternoon.

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1066 - 03/08/2021 11:09:32    2367177

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Replying To Belt:  "Will their semi final be played before the senior All-Ireland semi final? And do we know which one?"
It won't be. The senior semi finals are the weekend of the 14th/15th. The minor semi finals are the 21st/22nd

LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1464 - 03/08/2021 11:41:56    2367192

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Replying To Brownepat:  "3 Leinsters Minor Titles in 4 years around 25% of our 13 titles in recent times.... Maybe our underage structure changes in last Decade or so are not so bad after all !!!"
this is a really great "shot in the arm" to everyone involved & interested in Meath Football . Someone else has put it in perspective in an earlier post but 3 Leinster title in 4 Years is unreal & a massive "start" . The key thing now is to recognise that this just gives us the "lift" that we need to keep doing the right thing. This is not the end of the Process...not by a long shot....this is about 30 metres down a 100 metre track...but its massive progress.
we need to keep this up , we need to build on it. That means developing the 100 or so players that have come through over these years , tracking, their development , monitoring their progress, keeping them 100% within the system....Develop a Back up County Squad, call it what you like, Invest some monies into it, doesn't have to be much. Build our database ...call back into these Young men at least 4 times a year to see how they are progressing . the Dublin Conveyor belt has stopped....that is their issue to deal with...and im sure they will...but this is our chance to steal a march on them. We need to think 5-10 years now . We cant do a Kildare….Time will tell...but they could very easily blow the work & results that they too had shown up to 3-4 years ago .

PS...most impressive thing about this is the Understatement of the Management Team. Please finally can those in the know realise that what you need with Young Talented Kids ...is men with no little or egos to mould them during these formative years….The football work is there for all to see...the sooner we realise the mental stuff is equally important at this transitional period the better

Thelongwoodslasher (Meath) - Posts: 385 - 03/08/2021 12:22:03    2367205

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Replying To Brownepat:  "3 Leinsters Minor Titles in 4 years around 25% of our 13 titles in recent times.... Maybe our underage structure changes in last Decade or so are not so bad after all !!!"
Careful - there will be calls to split Meath in 2 for Minor!!

ASaminthehand (Meath) - Posts: 422 - 03/08/2021 14:44:34    2367280

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Replying To Belt:  "Will their semi final be played before the senior All-Ireland semi final? And do we know which one?"
The two All-Ireland semi finals are set for August 21st and the venues are Breffni Park and O'Connor Park.

The U20 All-Ireland final will be played before one of the senior semi finals in Croke Park.

ispeakwisdom (Roscommon) - Posts: 2487 - 03/08/2021 14:59:40    2367289

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Replying To ispeakwisdom:  "The two All-Ireland semi finals are set for August 21st and the venues are Breffni Park and O'Connor Park.

The U20 All-Ireland final will be played before one of the senior semi finals in Croke Park."
how many supporters will be allowed in

brian (Meath) - Posts: 7 - 03/08/2021 15:42:05    2367313

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https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/from-meath-gaa-to-olympic-gold-how-irish-coach-played-huge-role-in-tokyo-triumph-40713208.html intresting story

bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1263 - 03/08/2021 16:22:07    2367331

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Replying To bob1969:  "how many supporters will be allowed in"
Defending on the venue of the semi finals 2,000 or 1,800.

ispeakwisdom (Roscommon) - Posts: 2487 - 03/08/2021 23:25:05    2367426

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Sligo in the semi final. We'll be favourites but so were Roscommon last night.

Ratoath Royal (Meath) - Posts: 1362 - 07/08/2021 11:10:05    2368434

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Delighted for all involved in the minors. We do need something to cheer about. But under no circumstances should Sligo be underestimated. Have a in law involved in Sligo gaa. Said to me to put money on their minors winning Connacht early on. I thought it was just bluster. I was wrong.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 07/08/2021 16:57:15    2368532

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Meath have won 4 Under 17 leinster titles in 5 years in 2017, 2018, 2020, 2021. Meath have beaten Dublin 6 times in 6 years in leinster minor championship in 2016, 2017 twice, 2018, 2020, 2021. Meath hammered Dubs by 11 pts this year and 11 pts last year also in minor championship. Meath hammered Dubs by 10 pts in 2016 at minor, by 5 pts in both victories in 2017. And Meath won by 2 pts v Dubs in 2018. In 2019 Dublin won in a brillant game at minor v Meath with a goal in dying minutes. It was very close to 7 victories in 6 years v Dublin for Meath. This is significant. Dubs havent lost at senior in last 6 years. They have lost at underage a few times. The only counties with more than one victory at underage v Dubs are kildare with 2 victories at underage v Dubs in last 6 years. But Meath 6 victories over Dubs at underage in 6 years is the best record by a mile. We need to turn this into success at u20 but our record at minor is outstanding. If we reach a final it would be significant as it would be the first leinster team to reach All Ireland minor final in 9 years. Only 2 leinster teams have won minor All Ireland since 2000, they are laois in 2003 and Dublin in 2012.

Players to play senior from those minor winning Meath teams who beat Dublin are below

2016 Minors Dara Campion James Conlon Jason Scully Ethan Devine
2017 Leinster winning minors Shane Walsh Jordan Morris
2018 Leinster winning minors Matthew Costello Cathal Hickey Jack O Connor ( Cian McBride gone to Australia).
Still possible players to come through from 2018 leinster winning team like Luke Mitchell, James O Hare, maybe others like Diarmaid Moriaty.
Meath also have 2020 2021 leinster winning minor teams to come through

2020: Players with potential Eoghan Frayne Conor Gray Ciaran Caulfield
2021 Players with Poential Jack Kinlough Hughie Corcorcan Liam Kelly Sean Emmanuel.
Sean Emmanuel and Eoghan Frayne particularly look really good prospects. What's happening many of the minors are playing little u20 football for Meath jumping straight into seniors and making huge impact at senior. Like Matthew Costello at 19 scoring 1 - 2 v Dubs this year, man of the match v kildare last year. Cathal Hickey brillant v Dubs at 18 in debut in league last year. Morris two years in a row Meath top scorer only 21. Shane Walsh at 18 brilliant v kerry in championship. 2 years injured but next year still only 21. You could see next year at least 6 of the 15 first team Meath starters coming from these minor teams and age groups. With Harry Hogan, Cathal Hickey, Matthew Costello, Ethan Devine, Shane Walsh, Jordan Morris all likely starters. And up to 15 or more of panel possibly oming from these underage teams with J Conlon, Scully, Flynn, Harkin, O Connor, Campion and possibly 2 or 3 more from this years U20 team and maybe Eoghan Frayne called up also. It is an era of underage sucess. But its not over yet. We have to see how minors this year at minor and how these 2020 and 2021 minor teams do at U20 with John Mccarthy in 2022 and Cathal O Bric in 2023.

Kingkeegan (UK) - Posts: 55 - 07/08/2021 19:56:02    2368588

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Question
Does anyone how strong our minors are for next year?. We have had strong minot teams since 2016 winning 4 minor U17 Leinster titles. It would be great to produce another leinster minor winning team in the next year or 2. It would really be turning into era of strong underage sucess. We need to keep this hoodoo over the Dubs at minor as long as possible. Start winning U20s leinster also.
I heard this years minors where strong along time ago. And that has proved so with them hammering Dubs. Looks like to me possibly the strongest of the 4 minor leinster winning minor teams and hopefully get to the final and of course even win it. But Tyrone look real strong, Cork also have good underage pedigree.

Any news on next year's minors. Another minor win in the next year to 2 to 3 years. It would increase talent coming through further. Kildare won 4 leinster minors in 8 years eg 2013 2015 2016 2019. We won 4 in 5 years, allot of the media are saying 3 in 4 years, they don't realise we won in 2017. The dream scenario would be minor All Ireland or under 20 All Ireland in the next 2 to 3 years, that would be bona fide era of underage sucess. Kildare won 4 leinster minors in 8 years in last decade. We have copied that. Of course they won Under 20 All Ireland and those players have come through already for them. For us we still have players to come through from 2018 and 2020 2021 players to come through also. Kildare underage have done OK but they haven't pushed kildare on. If anything or underage players are making bigger impact. And we still have 2020 2021 players to come through.

To win 5 or 6 provicial titles in an era would be really excellent. Anything above that 6 or 7 would very unusual outside Dubs in leinster. So if there was another minor or two along with an All Ireland it would be exceptional. Remember from 1993 to 2018 which is 25 years we only won 2 minors leinsters titles in 06 08. So 4 minor leinsters in 5 years, compared to 2 leinster minors in the previous 25 years, this is a really good upturn for Meath football.

So Does anyone know anything about next years minor team. Its very hard to know with minors and to predict. Even though if this is end of this era 4 leinster minor titles in 5 years and still a chance of All Ireland minor this year and these players to come through in the next 3 under 20 teams also, that's a good era of underage success. Hopefully we start to win U20 titles soon. And with the East leinster project on the ground I wonder has that's impact kicked in yet. Is the East Leinster project one of the reasons for the current minor sucess, and if it hasn't yet impacted, it's impact in the coming years could lead to more good underage teams coming through in the next few years. It is hard to predict. But whoever is in charge of Meath senior in 4 or 5 years should have some really good players, should have a team of players who have all beaten Dubs at underage and all won underage titles. Since 2000 that hasn't been the case.

Kingkeegan (UK) - Posts: 55 - 08/08/2021 00:02:14    2368700

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Replying To Kingkeegan:  "Meath have won 4 Under 17 leinster titles in 5 years in 2017, 2018, 2020, 2021. Meath have beaten Dublin 6 times in 6 years in leinster minor championship in 2016, 2017 twice, 2018, 2020, 2021. Meath hammered Dubs by 11 pts this year and 11 pts last year also in minor championship. Meath hammered Dubs by 10 pts in 2016 at minor, by 5 pts in both victories in 2017. And Meath won by 2 pts v Dubs in 2018. In 2019 Dublin won in a brillant game at minor v Meath with a goal in dying minutes. It was very close to 7 victories in 6 years v Dublin for Meath. This is significant. Dubs havent lost at senior in last 6 years. They have lost at underage a few times. The only counties with more than one victory at underage v Dubs are kildare with 2 victories at underage v Dubs in last 6 years. But Meath 6 victories over Dubs at underage in 6 years is the best record by a mile. We need to turn this into success at u20 but our record at minor is outstanding. If we reach a final it would be significant as it would be the first leinster team to reach All Ireland minor final in 9 years. Only 2 leinster teams have won minor All Ireland since 2000, they are laois in 2003 and Dublin in 2012.

Players to play senior from those minor winning Meath teams who beat Dublin are below

2016 Minors Dara Campion James Conlon Jason Scully Ethan Devine
2017 Leinster winning minors Shane Walsh Jordan Morris
2018 Leinster winning minors Matthew Costello Cathal Hickey Jack O Connor ( Cian McBride gone to Australia).
Still possible players to come through from 2018 leinster winning team like Luke Mitchell, James O Hare, maybe others like Diarmaid Moriaty.
Meath also have 2020 2021 leinster winning minor teams to come through

2020: Players with potential Eoghan Frayne Conor Gray Ciaran Caulfield
2021 Players with Poential Jack Kinlough Hughie Corcorcan Liam Kelly Sean Emmanuel.
Sean Emmanuel and Eoghan Frayne particularly look really good prospects. What's happening many of the minors are playing little u20 football for Meath jumping straight into seniors and making huge impact at senior. Like Matthew Costello at 19 scoring 1 - 2 v Dubs this year, man of the match v kildare last year. Cathal Hickey brillant v Dubs at 18 in debut in league last year. Morris two years in a row Meath top scorer only 21. Shane Walsh at 18 brilliant v kerry in championship. 2 years injured but next year still only 21. You could see next year at least 6 of the 15 first team Meath starters coming from these minor teams and age groups. With Harry Hogan, Cathal Hickey, Matthew Costello, Ethan Devine, Shane Walsh, Jordan Morris all likely starters. And up to 15 or more of panel possibly oming from these underage teams with J Conlon, Scully, Flynn, Harkin, O Connor, Campion and possibly 2 or 3 more from this years U20 team and maybe Eoghan Frayne called up also. It is an era of underage sucess. But its not over yet. We have to see how minors this year at minor and how these 2020 and 2021 minor teams do at U20 with John Mccarthy in 2022 and Cathal O Bric in 2023."
Excellent and insightful post

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 08/08/2021 08:46:55    2368718

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