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Surprisingly there has been little comment about the championship draws! I understand it will be 2 teams out of each group into a 1/4 final - so based on that!
Looking at the Senior football
Group A
Ratoath as winners the past 2 years will be tipped to come out of this group - the other 3 teams are probably on a par with one another but I think games will be tight and calling out who will finish last in this group is probably a harder call! The biggest issue for Ratoath will be how do they bring in their county footballers and hurlers back into their set up!
Ratoath
Ashbourne to come out
NOM relegation play off
Group B
I would expect this to be a competitive group but I think there is no chance of a winner coming from it! I think na Fianna will top it and I suspect A relegated team to come from this group
Na fianna and Colmcilles to qualify
Curraha relegation play off
Group C
Tough group - but fully expect the key game to be simonstown v kells - for me, simonstown as I think they look very focussed this year! I think Moynalvey will end up at the foot of this group but will stay up!
Simonstown and Kells to come through
Moynalvey relegation
Group D
On paper this looks like the toughest group, but I suspect Dunboyne with their massive squad and 8 county panelist's to have enough to come through! Neither Summerhill or skryne are the teams they were in the past and while senescheltown have made progress I don't think they are at the level of Dunboyne yet!
Dunboyne and senescheltown to come out
Skyrne relegation playoff
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Replying To ASaminthehand: "Surprisingly there has been little comment about the championship draws! I understand it will be 2 teams out of each group into a 1/4 final - so based on that!
Looking at the Senior football
Group A
Ratoath as winners the past 2 years will be tipped to come out of this group - the other 3 teams are probably on a par with one another but I think games will be tight and calling out who will finish last in this group is probably a harder call! The biggest issue for Ratoath will be how do they bring in their county footballers and hurlers back into their set up!
Ratoath
Ashbourne to come out
NOM relegation play off
Group B
I would expect this to be a competitive group but I think there is no chance of a winner coming from it! I think na Fianna will top it and I suspect A relegated team to come from this group
Na fianna and Colmcilles to qualify
Curraha relegation play off
Group C
Tough group - but fully expect the key game to be simonstown v kells - for me, simonstown as I think they look very focussed this year! I think Moynalvey will end up at the foot of this group but will stay up!
Simonstown and Kells to come through
Moynalvey relegation
Group D
On paper this looks like the toughest group, but I suspect Dunboyne with their massive squad and 8 county panelist's to have enough to come through! Neither Summerhill or skryne are the teams they were in the past and while senescheltown have made progress I don't think they are at the level of Dunboyne yet!
Dunboyne and senescheltown to come out
Skyrne relegation playoff" Good analysis. Think I agree with every one of your picks
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Replying To LeitrimRoyal99: "Good analysis. Think I agree with every one of your picks" As far as I'm aware the bottom 2 in each group are in a relegation playoff, i might be wrong.
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Replying To ASaminthehand: "Surprisingly there has been little comment about the championship draws! I understand it will be 2 teams out of each group into a 1/4 final - so based on that!
Looking at the Senior football
Group A
Ratoath as winners the past 2 years will be tipped to come out of this group - the other 3 teams are probably on a par with one another but I think games will be tight and calling out who will finish last in this group is probably a harder call! The biggest issue for Ratoath will be how do they bring in their county footballers and hurlers back into their set up!
Ratoath
Ashbourne to come out
NOM relegation play off
Group B
I would expect this to be a competitive group but I think there is no chance of a winner coming from it! I think na Fianna will top it and I suspect A relegated team to come from this group
Na fianna and Colmcilles to qualify
Curraha relegation play off
Group C
Tough group - but fully expect the key game to be simonstown v kells - for me, simonstown as I think they look very focussed this year! I think Moynalvey will end up at the foot of this group but will stay up!
Simonstown and Kells to come through
Moynalvey relegation
Group D
On paper this looks like the toughest group, but I suspect Dunboyne with their massive squad and 8 county panelist's to have enough to come through! Neither Summerhill or skryne are the teams they were in the past and while senescheltown have made progress I don't think they are at the level of Dunboyne yet!
Dunboyne and senescheltown to come out
Skyrne relegation playoff" I would fancy summerhill to qualify
thelutch (Meath) - Posts: 1073 - 27/06/2021 22:41:29
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Replying To CheCastro: "As far as I'm aware the bottom 2 in each group are in a relegation playoff, i might be wrong." I think in senior it's just the bottom team. Because of restructuring more teams are going down in inter and junior so its different for those
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Replying To LeitrimRoyal99: "I think in senior it's just the bottom team. Because of restructuring more teams are going down in inter and junior so its different for those" The 4 bottom teams play off in relegation games
3rd placed teams stay up
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ASaminthehand (Meath) - Posts: 422 - 28/06/2021 17:42:17
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Replying To ASaminthehand: "The 4 bottom teams play off in relegation games
3rd placed teams stay up
Top 2 teams into quarters" Was on to our secretary today and he's after seeing the regulations for relegation and it say bottom 2 in each division into a relegation quarter final. It seems Meath Gaa are going the sane route as it was in the national league, were you could lose all group games and still stay up. If this is true, it's madness by Meath gaa.
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Replying To CheCastro: "Was on to our secretary today and he's after seeing the regulations for relegation and it say bottom 2 in each division into a relegation quarter final. It seems Meath Gaa are going the sane route as it was in the national league, were you could lose all group games and still stay up. If this is true, it's madness by Meath gaa." The we are meath lads said it was bottom teams only into play off - but sounds like your source is better
That is bizarre! A team could actually win 2 games in their group and go down!!
ASaminthehand (Meath) - Posts: 422 - 28/06/2021 19:23:30
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Replying To ASaminthehand: "The we are meath lads said it was bottom teams only into play off - but sounds like your source is better
That is bizarre! A team could actually win 2 games in their group and go down!!" In Senior its definitely only the bottom team in each group that go into the relegation playoffs. Intermediate could be different as they to get it down to 16 teams over the next year or 2.
Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1003 - 29/06/2021 11:07:54
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Replying To Blackspot09: "In Senior its definitely only the bottom team in each group that go into the relegation playoffs. Intermediate could be different as they to get it down to 16 teams over the next year or 2." The 2021 regulations have been published on the Meath GAA site and it is the bottom two of each group which go in to the relegation play-off. I wouldn't agree with that, how many chances do they need to give the bottom team
Belt (Meath) - Posts: 272 - 02/07/2021 10:38:46
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Replying To Belt: "The 2021 regulations have been published on the Meath GAA site and it is the bottom two of each group which go in to the relegation play-off. I wouldn't agree with that, how many chances do they need to give the bottom team" No hiding place now. Our senior championship final round might be a bit tastier.
Goldback (Meath) - Posts: 58 - 02/07/2021 11:56:54
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Replying To Belt: "The 2021 regulations have been published on the Meath GAA site and it is the bottom two of each group which go in to the relegation play-off. I wouldn't agree with that, how many chances do they need to give the bottom team" Dunno about SFC But defo in IFC its only bottom team in relegation trouble.
The original deal in both SFC and IFC was two bottom teams.
Have a feeling the SFC may still be that but with the instruction from Croke Park to get to 16 at IFC I reckon thats way IFC relegation changed.
Brownepat (Meath) - Posts: 532 - 02/07/2021 14:21:20
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Ratoath for treble. Can dunboyne trouble them.. me thinks kells have missed the boat
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Replying To Brownepat: "Ratoath for treble. Can dunboyne trouble them.. me thinks kells have missed the boat" dunboyne all the way with summerhill in final
head4dblackspot (Meath) - Posts: 513 - 05/08/2021 09:38:47
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Hard to see beyond Ratoath. They have top natural players in every line. Dunboyne always look like they are going to do it but come up short more often than not. Heart would say Kells but last years final has to still hurt. New structures make the championship more cut throat as last year in some cases one win could have had you safe and the last games are of no consequence but this year makes all games count. The CB come in for a lot of stick, well deserved on occasion, but the restructuring of the championship should have the long term effect of raising the standard.
ABK67 (Meath) - Posts: 62 - 05/08/2021 10:00:28
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Don't want to be criticising anyone or anything in this crazy world we are living in at present however most of the championship matches will be clashing with this weekends All Ireland semi finals.
Surely we could have had a closer look at this and try work around throw in times so players and supporters could have had the opportunity to watch both games this weekend.
Should have had a few more games on Friday evening, have throw ins at 4pm Saturday and 1pm and 6pm on Sunday. Although it is looking highly likely that Kerry and Tyrone could be postponed. Still though a bit more thought should have been put into this, every gaa fan is looking forward to the clash of Dublin and Mayo this Saturday since two weeks ago.
thelutch (Meath) - Posts: 1073 - 09/08/2021 13:32:41
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Replying To thelutch: "Don't want to be criticising anyone or anything in this crazy world we are living in at present however most of the championship matches will be clashing with this weekends All Ireland semi finals.
Surely we could have had a closer look at this and try work around throw in times so players and supporters could have had the opportunity to watch both games this weekend.
Should have had a few more games on Friday evening, have throw ins at 4pm Saturday and 1pm and 6pm on Sunday. Although it is looking highly likely that Kerry and Tyrone could be postponed. Still though a bit more thought should have been put into this, every gaa fan is looking forward to the clash of Dublin and Mayo this Saturday since two weeks ago." Just continuing the trend - with yesterday';s club final clashing with the Kilkenny Cork game All Ireland Semi Final - same day same tiime!! Who'd be a fixtures arranger!!
ASaminthehand (Meath) - Posts: 422 - 09/08/2021 14:00:27
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Replying To ABK67: "Hard to see beyond Ratoath. They have top natural players in every line. Dunboyne always look like they are going to do it but come up short more often than not. Heart would say Kells but last years final has to still hurt. New structures make the championship more cut throat as last year in some cases one win could have had you safe and the last games are of no consequence but this year makes all games count. The CB come in for a lot of stick, well deserved on occasion, but the restructuring of the championship should have the long term effect of raising the standard." Yeah agree with most of what you say about your championship predictions.
Senior Group A
Ratoath V Dunshaughlin &
Donaghmore/Ashbourne V Navan O' Mahony's.
Champions and three in a row chasing Ratoath would be expected to emerge comfortably from the group and will be hard stopped from retaining the Keegan Cup (even as a Dunshaughlin supporter, it is hard to admit that). One would get hard to find anyone willing to put money on Ratoath not winning all three group games.
The big battle in this group is for the 2nd quarter final place and in so doing, also being awarded the extra bonus of avoiding the relegation slots.
3rd and 4th place in the group go into a relegation QF, so the losers of the O' Mahony's V Don/Ash game will be as good as booking a relegation QF spot as they will still have to play Ratoath and one win will probably not be enough to avoid being in the bottom two. All of the other three teams in the group would be considered a level below Ratoath and games between the three of them could be close. All three of them only won one other game as well as beating (or getting a walkover from) Curraha in the Feis Cup. Those three teams know if they win their other two (non Ratoath) games they will make the QF's of Keegan Cup.
As for Dunshaughlin just about avoiding relegation last year (beating Nobber in the playoff to send them down) and having to play the champions in the first round, while rebuilding having lost 3 stalwarts through retirement Caoimhin King and our 2 big midfielders Ray Moloney and Crimmins and in addition other key are players out through injury, it won't get much tougher than that.
Not only Dunshaughlin but any team in Meath would have some job keeping tabs on Ratoath's six excellent forwards: Joey Wallace, Bryan McMahon, Jack Flynn, Daithi McGowan, Eamon Wallace and Cian Rogers (a daunting task) and as you pointed out quality through out the rest of the team.
So it's a real David V Goliath clash and I would be hoping Marty Reilly and his team can somehow pull off a miracle, but a good performance, free from injuries would be an ok result as regardless of winning or losing, Dunshaughlin's faith will still be in their own hands even if we don't get the right result on Sunday.
In truth Ratoath are probably more focused on down the road and will probably be trying to emulate the three in a row Dunshaughlin winning team (2000-2002)and who also captured the Leinster club championship in the third year of their reign as Meath champions.
I still fancy Ratoath to win the Keegan Cup again, with Dunboyne and Kells the main threats.
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Replying To Meathball: "Yeah agree with most of what you say about your championship predictions.
Senior Group A
Ratoath V Dunshaughlin &
Donaghmore/Ashbourne V Navan O' Mahony's.
Champions and three in a row chasing Ratoath would be expected to emerge comfortably from the group and will be hard stopped from retaining the Keegan Cup (even as a Dunshaughlin supporter, it is hard to admit that). One would get hard to find anyone willing to put money on Ratoath not winning all three group games.
The big battle in this group is for the 2nd quarter final place and in so doing, also being awarded the extra bonus of avoiding the relegation slots.
3rd and 4th place in the group go into a relegation QF, so the losers of the O' Mahony's V Don/Ash game will be as good as booking a relegation QF spot as they will still have to play Ratoath and one win will probably not be enough to avoid being in the bottom two. All of the other three teams in the group would be considered a level below Ratoath and games between the three of them could be close. All three of them only won one other game as well as beating (or getting a walkover from) Curraha in the Feis Cup. Those three teams know if they win their other two (non Ratoath) games they will make the QF's of Keegan Cup.
As for Dunshaughlin just about avoiding relegation last year (beating Nobber in the playoff to send them down) and having to play the champions in the first round, while rebuilding having lost 3 stalwarts through retirement Caoimhin King and our 2 big midfielders Ray Moloney and Crimmins and in addition other key are players out through injury, it won't get much tougher than that.
Not only Dunshaughlin but any team in Meath would have some job keeping tabs on Ratoath's six excellent forwards: Joey Wallace, Bryan McMahon, Jack Flynn, Daithi McGowan, Eamon Wallace and Cian Rogers (a daunting task) and as you pointed out quality through out the rest of the team.
So it's a real David V Goliath clash and I would be hoping Marty Reilly and his team can somehow pull off a miracle, but a good performance, free from injuries would be an ok result as regardless of winning or losing, Dunshaughlin's faith will still be in their own hands even if we don't get the right result on Sunday.
In truth Ratoath are probably more focused on down the road and will probably be trying to emulate the three in a row Dunshaughlin winning team (2000-2002)and who also captured the Leinster club championship in the third year of their reign as Meath champions.
I still fancy Ratoath to win the Keegan Cup again, with Dunboyne and Kells the main threats." Oh good Lord what a masterclass in reverse psychology
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Replying To GenderNeutral: "Oh good Lord what a masterclass in reverse psychology" Just the simple facts and my opinion on the group. Nothing to do with reverse, forward, backward or sideways psychology. The main point being that even if Dunshauglin lose against Ratoath on Sunday their faith is still in their own hands. Lets hope they do better on Sunday than people are predicting on here.
Meathball (Meath) - Posts: 140 - 10/08/2021 08:11:42
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