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Is that a riddle? Seen easier crosswords!
GenderNeutral (Meath) - Posts: 112 - 19/10/2020 22:52:56 2299436 Link 1 |
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"The definition of stupidity is trying to do the same thing over and over and expecting different results" Em...Not so sure that's entirely accurate!!! GenderNeutral (Meath) - Posts: 112 - 19/10/2020 22:58:21 2299441 Link 0 |
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Where are ya getting hard to understand.
Borderroyal (Meath) - Posts: 488 - 20/10/2020 09:54:32 2299480 Link 0 |
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The English Language/grammer bit
Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 630 - 20/10/2020 11:35:45 2299523 Link 2 |
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Dunno does anyone know but whats the Ryan brothers? Injured? Unavailable? Dropped? brian (Meath) - Posts: 1954 - 20/10/2020 12:45:04 2299560 Link 9 |
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Agreed, just don't see what he offers if he's not a good man marker or defender as he's not competent enough in my opinion with ball in hand. His clubman Cathal Finn for eg is better in both facets. I've great admiration for McCoy though as he didn't play underage with Meath so fair dues to him for making most of his talent and getting his chance late in the day. Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 1318 - 20/10/2020 13:03:38 2299567 Link 15 |
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It's not a language test lads, the post was clear enough.
Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 1318 - 20/10/2020 13:13:22 2299568 Link 14 |
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Not that I particularly care but it wasn't clear.
trim1 (Meath) - Posts: 162 - 20/10/2020 14:07:40 2299609 Link 1 |
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Too much of a focus being put on our kickout issues over the past. Too many people expecting us to have a Cluxton type keeper in goals. Short kickouts should be a no-go in my opinion, launch it out to one of the midfielders, let them fight for it. They can win the mark. If they don't win the ball dive on the breaking ball. Be determined. Football is simple lads LoyalRoyal66 (Meath) - Posts: 80 - 20/10/2020 15:27:59 2299646 Link 0 |
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Ok i was saying Philly mcmahon having been comparing mcoy to him can play ball as well as been a man marker.he marked the gooch and scored one if not 2 points doin this. I also said that he seems to get a lot of game time but in my mind he not up to it.he marked sean oshea in league against kerry.got a roasting there to. I also said on the goalie issue that selectors have to be able to see that kickouts are a issue for long time now.have they no say in the matter or they just yes men. Hopefully this is good enuf grammar for ya. Borderroyal (Meath) - Posts: 488 - 20/10/2020 17:43:59 2299678 Link 0 |
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Jasus lad the goalie in modern game most important player on team.have to have at least.couple of strategic kickouts just for if we are in trouble winning ball at midfield.in these instances its vital for setting up a score or taken the momentum from opposition.our midfield not really known for high fielding, good footballers but not in the tallest midfielder bracket. How we are still at this 3 years on baffles me. Borderroyal (Meath) - Posts: 488 - 20/10/2020 18:34:07 2299685 Link 1 |
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There's too much risk going short, same way I'm not a fan of this handpassing in the full back line. Ball should be kicked up the field, if the man doesn't win it that's his problem.
LoyalRoyal66 (Meath) - Posts: 80 - 20/10/2020 19:25:29 2299704 Link 0 |
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Every team in ireland can go short but we have to lump it out the field.my god.
Borderroyal (Meath) - Posts: 488 - 20/10/2020 21:27:21 2299746 Link 2 |
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No point kicking up the field when there is nobody up there. You are mistaking current tactics in gaelic football with those of 15/20 years ago. It isn't 15 players spread out on the pitch anymore. Apart from a GK, the full back and maybe a full forward, nobody has a fixed position. Its like most players are wing backs now - they are up and down and everywhere. The team defends as a unit and attacks as a unit - a lot of other sports like soccer are like this now, following examples of basketball and handball (Olympic). For my money when you can go short, you have to do it. Guarantees possession and you can build from there and try and break the lines, depending on where the opposition press starts. Looks at Man City and Arsenal, playing out from the back (they even changed rules of soccer to allow passes from goalkicks to be received in the box, just to allow this tactical evolution) and then trying to break through the press as quickly as possible which leaves you attacking their box in superior numbers, IF you break through that is of course. If the opposition don't press and sit back with 15 in their own half, then you have to play around them like the Dubs do....see how the Dubs put players on both wings literally touching the sideline chalk . Man City with Mahrez and Sterling do exactly the same in soccer. Guaranteed width to allow you to quickly change sides of the position and create a 2 v 1 overload - Dublin have scored loads of goals like this. Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 1318 - 21/10/2020 10:50:57 2299835 Link 17 |
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Wow, someone who knows what they are talking about. Unusual on here. Good point. Lads seem to think managing a senor intercounty team is easy. Ed2010 (Meath) - Posts: 92 - 21/10/2020 12:08:02 2299876 Link 0 |
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I haven't played in 13 years. But back then I was coached by colm Nally at one stage. and even back then we where told never to kick the ball out of zone 1 . which is your defence. There is 3 zones. Zone 1 denfesne zone 2 midfield and zone 3 forwards. there was a stat at time and it was something 60% of balls kicked out of zone 1 ends up with losing possession. So you and pass the ball to zone zone then set up your attack. This is very very basic stuff.
bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1263 - 21/10/2020 21:11:59 2300083 Link 1 |
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Ok nally now is part of current management and we are kicking ball outfield??????
Borderroyal (Meath) - Posts: 488 - 22/10/2020 00:01:41 2300115 Link 0 |
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I heard him say at a coaching session a few years ago that 60% of kicked passes are successful and 95% of hand passes successful that's why so many coaches advocate a hand passing game. The longer the kick, the higher the chance of losing possession.
round_ball_99 (Meath) - Posts: 19 - 22/10/2020 08:55:09 2300133 Link 0 |
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It is interesting reading all the posts from 'experts'!! It appears that the goal keeper is the most important player by some. Can the keeper win his own kick out. The keeper is the obvious one to blame if a goal is conceded - we have not yet got around to blame the keeper for missed opportunities at the other end of the pitch. Short kick outs and long kick outs work when you have outfield players good enough to win possession it is a combination of the kick and the ability to win the outfield possession. For short kick outs you need defenders moving around -not static as occurs frequently. The game is now been analysed to death although it is interesting to note that the games have become easier on the eye to watch of late. We have borrowed many of the negative aspects from soccer unfortunately. Modern game and stats is now the buzz word with many. browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 22/10/2020 09:19:25 2300134 Link 17 |
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Fair point there brown cows. I wouldn't overly look at stats myself. If something doesn't pass the eye test then stats won't change my opinion on it. As you say a keeper can't field the ball for the player on the other end or stick it over the bar but a keeper does need to be intelligent enough to give his players a better than average chance of winning the ball and doing something with it. For too long i've watched our backs especially corner and wing backs and midfield and wing forwards being static and not giving the keeper a chance or option. So the keeper is then in a hurry and rush to get the ball out and when that happens mistakes happen. I saw it repeatedly last summer where Colgan and Brennan danced across the 21 looking for an option and nothing was presented, them throwing their hands up in the air in frustration and they had to kick it under pressure. That is a fault of management that no system or patterns are in place to get the ball away. It's clear as day its not been worked on. For a division 1 team that's criminal. Every team has maybe 20-30 kick outs a game and to not have any system in place is a glaring weakness and reflects terribly on the management. This is your only time in the game where you should have an advantage in terms of knowing what you're going to do but we don't seem to have an idea at all. I've seen a few lads mention Colm Nally and his approach, if he's so great why hasn't that aspect of our game improved since he's been involved. I'd say its even been worse in the last two years. Every team we've played in our last 10 games knows the problem in advance and pushes up onto our defenders and clogs up the space. When that happens you need your half forwards to give you an out and they're not doing so. How often did we see Cluxton find Paul Flynn and laterly Howard and Scully in wide open space. They are then straight into opposing defences. Devine is a huge man and should be a primary target but doesn't seem able to win any balls. When someone does make a break more often than not they're too close to the sideline when making the break which increases the pressure on a keeper the place an accurate kick into their hands. There needs to be a better way of organising when and where players make breaks to and where they're ultimately getting a ball. This isn't happening and teams have us scouted enough to know it. The fact that neither Brennan specifically (he barely gets it passed the 45) and Colgan can't find our half forwards means teams don't have to worry about us. Result is teams will take more pot shots knowing they've a better than average chance of getting the ball back and restarting an attack. brian (Meath) - Posts: 1954 - 22/10/2020 12:54:10 2300193 Link 10 |