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Revised Meath SHC 2020

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Replying To Ratoath Royal:  "Absolutely excellent performance from the start. If our forwards can click against Trim, I can't see them beating us.
Senior finals for our footballers and hurlers when 10 years ago we were junior in both codes."
Agreed, well done Ratoath. Making strides at all levels in both codes.
As a Kells man I have to say that winning the senior football title would do the world of good to the town in general, would help improve local confidence in a town badly in need of a boost and too used to underacheivement. Lets hope for a good final.

Young_gael (Meath) - Posts: 596 - 28/09/2020 11:07:52    2294469

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This year has proved that a dual club is not impossible in meath , and when andy mc is not blocking lads playing hurling how much it benifits the hurling club in question to have those 1 or 2 guys available all the time , it can make all the difference to the club in question.

If ratoath do the double it also gives two fingers to the other football clubs who block lads playing both codes , or blame the other code if results are not going right , its a easy target.
Winning is a habbit and when one code is going well it can lift the other.

hurlit (Meath) - Posts: 424 - 28/09/2020 11:38:28    2294475

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Trim were haunted against Kildalkey... mad finish, hurled poorly throughout, second best almost everywhere and still snuck a win... Not enough scorers, a lot of wides but bizarrely always seemed to have a goal threat... Dougie needs to be in the game more, stuck out on the wing doesn't suit him and missing Toher for the ball he delivers into the forward line as much as anything else... Without Toher and Dwane can see Ratoath getting 20 scores minimum... hard to see Trim matching that based on Saturday...

Amarach (Meath) - Posts: 50 - 28/09/2020 12:18:32    2294487

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Don't think Trim are as bad a team that the performance on Saturday suggests, although their game plan and team selection is highly questionable.
Alan Douglas one of the best full forwards in the county on the wing while there's a three man full forward who barely won a ball all game. Mikey Cullen also on the bench who is far ahead of dowling and Cole.
Ratoath will take some stopping though they are fit strong and by god can they hurl too with serious firepower.
Hopefully trim show up on the day and we get a good SHC final

tuppy23 (Meath) - Posts: 154 - 28/09/2020 16:44:27    2294574

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Replying To tuppy23:  "Don't think Trim are as bad a team that the performance on Saturday suggests, although their game plan and team selection is highly questionable.
Alan Douglas one of the best full forwards in the county on the wing while there's a three man full forward who barely won a ball all game. Mikey Cullen also on the bench who is far ahead of dowling and Cole.
Ratoath will take some stopping though they are fit strong and by god can they hurl too with serious firepower.
Hopefully trim show up on the day and we get a good SHC final"
I would agree with most of this. Personally I thought that Alan Douglas had a great game considering the way the game was progressing. When you have a team losing the battles all over the place it is very hard for a player like Alan who is trying to do so much. I remember him in the half back line get possession, in midfield and they were relying on him in the forwards also.

Regarding the three man full forward line, you cant blame the selectors for picking smallish players as they could not afford Douglas in there as they would have been wiped out the field. It must be said that Neil Heffernan had a crucial impact on the game with the two goals and he almost got a third only for a great save form the Kildalkey goalkeeper. Picking Mikey Cole ahead of Mikey Cullen was a surprise as Cullen is more experienced at this level and had been playing well as far as I was aware but I haven't seen them training. Also, taking Luke Moran off when Mikey Cullen was coming on seemed strange as he is a big central player and was needed after losing Toher and Dwane.

I see Ratoath getting a load of credit on here - some nearly congratulating them at this stage! Trim's achievements so far this year rank up there with Ratoath as the three teams in each code have done well. The hurlers last weekend lined out without the first choice full back, centre back and one of the midfielders and still won albeit against total run of play. Whether its enough to beat Ratoath at this point in time is debatable but I don't see them being hammered as some are expecting.

trim1 (Meath) - Posts: 162 - 29/09/2020 10:41:48    2294693

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Replying To trim1:  "I would agree with most of this. Personally I thought that Alan Douglas had a great game considering the way the game was progressing. When you have a team losing the battles all over the place it is very hard for a player like Alan who is trying to do so much. I remember him in the half back line get possession, in midfield and they were relying on him in the forwards also.

Regarding the three man full forward line, you cant blame the selectors for picking smallish players as they could not afford Douglas in there as they would have been wiped out the field. It must be said that Neil Heffernan had a crucial impact on the game with the two goals and he almost got a third only for a great save form the Kildalkey goalkeeper. Picking Mikey Cole ahead of Mikey Cullen was a surprise as Cullen is more experienced at this level and had been playing well as far as I was aware but I haven't seen them training. Also, taking Luke Moran off when Mikey Cullen was coming on seemed strange as he is a big central player and was needed after losing Toher and Dwane.

I see Ratoath getting a load of credit on here - some nearly congratulating them at this stage! Trim's achievements so far this year rank up there with Ratoath as the three teams in each code have done well. The hurlers last weekend lined out without the first choice full back, centre back and one of the midfielders and still won albeit against total run of play. Whether its enough to beat Ratoath at this point in time is debatable but I don't see them being hammered as some are expecting."
Trim's achievements so far this year rank up there with Ratoath

In hurling maybe

head4dblackspot (Meath) - Posts: 513 - 29/09/2020 11:02:55    2294699

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If you want to bring population and facilities into an argument for sole reason of a club doing well just look at St Pats Stamullen. Massive population compared to majority of clubs in meath and one of if not the best facilities in the county and they are staring down the barrel of back to back relegation to Junior Football. Population does not automatically mean success on the field. Hard work, organisation, dedication from players/coaches and top class coaching is what bares fruit of having a big population. You can also be succesful with small populations, like Wolfe Tones, Curraha and Ballinabrackey for example.

BigJoe14 (Meath) - Posts: 997 - 29/09/2020 12:32:08    2294719

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Replying To head4dblackspot:  "Trim's achievements so far this year rank up there with Ratoath

In hurling maybe"
The point I was making related to all of the teams in their respective competitions - I wasn't trying to indicate that the Trim IFC football team matches the Ratoath SFC one.

trim1 (Meath) - Posts: 162 - 29/09/2020 13:07:58    2294728

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I Think while ratoath were impressive it also has to be remember that they were also only playing na fianna , who in normal format from other years would not be in a semi final.

The final will not be as straight forward as some are making out.

hurlit (Meath) - Posts: 424 - 29/09/2020 15:20:05    2294752

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Replying To trim1:  "The point I was making related to all of the teams in their respective competitions - I wasn't trying to indicate that the Trim IFC football team matches the Ratoath SFC one."
In fairness to Trim - they are only doing what they can at football - they won the Premier 2 and are in the final of intermediate. So far that is going to plan. I would say though - if they don't win Intermediate it will be a massive disappointment for them!

Royalblufill (Meath) - Posts: 511 - 29/09/2020 16:41:45    2294766

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Replying To Royalblufill:  "In fairness to Trim - they are only doing what they can at football - they won the Premier 2 and are in the final of intermediate. So far that is going to plan. I would say though - if they don't win Intermediate it will be a massive disappointment for them!"
Trim are Senior hurling finalists, intermediate semi finalists aswell as junior 2 semi finalists is a mean feat.
Add that to IFC, premier division 2 winners and I believe they are also in the premier division 8 semi final? Not a bad year if they can win out the remaining tournaments.
Aswell for ratoath I'm unsure of where they are in the lower divisions but simply fielding 3 adult football and hurling teams is a credit to everyone involved in the club.
Trim put in massive changes to their underage infrastructure 10 years ago and are finally seeing the benefits of it, same for Ratoath.
Population alone wins you nothing as you can see even with O Mahonys, besides this years MFC they have struggled at underage and it's showing at adult as they have been poor in SFC and now relegated to Intermediate hurling

tuppy23 (Meath) - Posts: 154 - 29/09/2020 17:35:44    2294773

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Replying To hurlit:  "I Think while ratoath were impressive it also has to be remember that they were also only playing na fianna , who in normal format from other years would not be in a semi final.

The final will not be as straight forward as some are making out."
Are you forgetting we beat Kitale and demolished kildalkey on the way to this final
Both of who were county champions last year and year before

I don't believe final will be straight forward but I do think Ratoath are favourites on merit

head4dblackspot (Meath) - Posts: 513 - 29/09/2020 18:09:27    2294779

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Will it take place at all

Brownepat (Meath) - Posts: 532 - 05/10/2020 10:41:29    2295741

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Not looking good now, have to feel for the players, surely without fans would have been the first logical step?

Meathgaalad (Meath) - Posts: 171 - 05/10/2020 13:47:02    2295804

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Its does not make sense that training can go on but a final behind closed doors cant? We all know its not what anyone wants but is it just a case of the GAA not wanting to miss out on 200 odd gate fees?

Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 640 - 05/10/2020 16:17:14    2295857

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very difficult on the players but i guess if we chose we can blame the people who have had the privlige of playing thier county final for this, but lets be honest any team who win a county final will want celebrate in style, i feel for trim and ratoath in this case, horrible situation and both teams are probably on the beer now, one celebrating and one drowning their sorrows,

StickFan (Meath) - Posts: 217 - 06/10/2020 08:55:31    2295986

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Not ideal at all lads tbh.
What were people predictions for the 4 finals fixed for this weekend? (Senior, Inter, Junior and Junior2)

butterfly (Meath) - Posts: 112 - 06/10/2020 10:17:46    2296001

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Sunday was a double header for the Ratoath and Trim clubs. Senior and Minor. Some disappointment there for the Minors from both clubs as well.

3feetoftimber (Meath) - Posts: 113 - 06/10/2020 10:38:42    2296010

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Replying To Irish_downunder:  "Its does not make sense that training can go on but a final behind closed doors cant? We all know its not what anyone wants but is it just a case of the GAA not wanting to miss out on 200 odd gate fees?"
Behind closed doors or not the reason given for the stopping games was not the risks at the games BUT THE CELEBRATIONS afterwards.

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1080 - 06/10/2020 11:37:00    2296027

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I see that Cork have postponed all their club football finals that were cancelled back to March 2021. Anyone any idea what the Meath Co. Boards have in mind? be awful for Trim & Ratoath to never get the chance to play in the senior final. Both teams are waiting a while for a title too.

Be funny seeing a team not start with "Kil" contest the senior final too.

butterfly (Meath) - Posts: 112 - 21/10/2020 14:20:36    2299938

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