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Well it's to be expected that Royal Dunne a la McEnroe, would bring out the CB spin. We achieved our goals for the year. The reality is. We scored 4 points in the Leinster final. The worst ever by a Meath team. We have played 2 games in the super 8's and have lost heavily in both. How or where have we improved under Mc Entee. He said he would put the foot back in Meath football, yet we are passing it more now than ever. Have we really gone to the point of bringing in a Louth man to help Meath football.
The fact that he has his son on the team who is an average club player undermines his credibility. Kells have the best forward line in the county. Why is Hanlon Reilly or Matimo not on the panel. Indeed Oisin Reilly at midfield would be an option.
If we want to improve its time to move on and bring in a manager who can unite the county. Mc Entee is to decisive

latouche25 (Meath) - Posts: 313 - 23/07/2019 12:22:55    2215206

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Replying To latouche25:  "Well it's to be expected that Royal Dunne a la McEnroe, would bring out the CB spin. We achieved our goals for the year. The reality is. We scored 4 points in the Leinster final. The worst ever by a Meath team. We have played 2 games in the super 8's and have lost heavily in both. How or where have we improved under Mc Entee. He said he would put the foot back in Meath football, yet we are passing it more now than ever. Have we really gone to the point of bringing in a Louth man to help Meath football.
The fact that he has his son on the team who is an average club player undermines his credibility. Kells have the best forward line in the county. Why is Hanlon Reilly or Matimo not on the panel. Indeed Oisin Reilly at midfield would be an option.
If we want to improve its time to move on and bring in a manager who can unite the county. Mc Entee is to decisive"
I suppose we should get Lar Well in instead of McEntee ????

We actually made the Leinster Final, got promoted to Div 1 and made
Super 8s this year , How is this not progress made???

summerhillof69 (Meath) - Posts: 213 - 23/07/2019 13:25:39    2215243

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Replying To LeitrimRoyal99:  "Next year is so important for Meath. It'll decide whether we are a top 6 team heading towards contention again or are we a 7-12 team and a step back. The improvement has to come from two areas. 1. Young lads getting better. Shane Walsh, Campion, Conlon, Devine have to announce themselves as nailed on starters and future stars of the team and maybe one of Adam McDermott, Sean Reilly, Jason Scully and Robbie Clarke could make an impact like Ethan or Conlon did this year. 2. We get lads back in. Lenihan and O'Coilean are certs. Kennelly I'd like to have back, same with Rooney and if the Wallace's commited I'd have them back. Jones can't commit. McKeever, B Conlon, Paddy O'Rourke I wouldn't particularly welcome back."
Even if he wanted to come back there is no was O'Rourke should be brought back in. He slated the teams ability back a while back in a newspaper interview, he basically stabbed this former teammates in the back.

bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 714 - 23/07/2019 13:37:18    2215247

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Replying To latouche25:  "Well it's to be expected that Royal Dunne a la McEnroe, would bring out the CB spin. We achieved our goals for the year. The reality is. We scored 4 points in the Leinster final. The worst ever by a Meath team. We have played 2 games in the super 8's and have lost heavily in both. How or where have we improved under Mc Entee. He said he would put the foot back in Meath football, yet we are passing it more now than ever. Have we really gone to the point of bringing in a Louth man to help Meath football.
The fact that he has his son on the team who is an average club player undermines his credibility. Kells have the best forward line in the county. Why is Hanlon Reilly or Matimo not on the panel. Indeed Oisin Reilly at midfield would be an option.
If we want to improve its time to move on and bring in a manager who can unite the county. Mc Entee is to decisive"
He's not from Louth but we'd gladly take him back if you's are fed up with him.

Chubby (Louth) - Posts: 91 - 23/07/2019 14:21:50    2215273

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Replying To latouche25:  "Well it's to be expected that Royal Dunne a la McEnroe, would bring out the CB spin. We achieved our goals for the year. The reality is. We scored 4 points in the Leinster final. The worst ever by a Meath team. We have played 2 games in the super 8's and have lost heavily in both. How or where have we improved under Mc Entee. He said he would put the foot back in Meath football, yet we are passing it more now than ever. Have we really gone to the point of bringing in a Louth man to help Meath football.
The fact that he has his son on the team who is an average club player undermines his credibility. Kells have the best forward line in the county. Why is Hanlon Reilly or Matimo not on the panel. Indeed Oisin Reilly at midfield would be an option.
If we want to improve its time to move on and bring in a manager who can unite the county. Mc Entee is to decisive"
Who cares where nally is from. Louth Dublin whatever. Does that really bother you? As long as meath are improving and doing well I honestly couldn't care less if the entire management team were born and raised in the Liberties.

Aloblack (Meath) - Posts: 265 - 23/07/2019 14:30:19    2215281

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Replying To Aloblack:  "Who cares where nally is from. Louth Dublin whatever. Does that really bother you? As long as meath are improving and doing well I honestly couldn't care less if the entire management team were born and raised in the Liberties."
Here here. We would be further back without him. Ask the players about his impact

nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 833 - 23/07/2019 14:49:19    2215294

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Replying To Jimin10:  "And what exactly have you done for the county?"
Well Jimin. The primary objective now for our county is moving forward. No I've never played intercounty football, I don't pretend to be anywhere near that standard. Our philosophy now has completely changed in the past few months. Stage one complete. Box ticked. Bringing players like JW and EW back into the fold I would reckon is a long way down AMcs list. True EW will run all day and try his hardest, but his hardest has been too inconsistent. I can only remember JW having two decent games in the past three years or more in Meath colors. Just not up to scratch. AMC will work with what he has and rightly so. If the likes of Conor Nash returns from OZ or Ronan Jones steps forward for selection, then fair enough. The nucleus of this team must not be altered greatly. New keeper, two decent forwards and a solid ball winner in the middle of the park is what's desired, not E or J Wallace.

ClonardGael (Meath) - Posts: 75 - 23/07/2019 16:33:13    2215335

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Replying To latouche25:  "Well it's to be expected that Royal Dunne a la McEnroe, would bring out the CB spin. We achieved our goals for the year. The reality is. We scored 4 points in the Leinster final. The worst ever by a Meath team. We have played 2 games in the super 8's and have lost heavily in both. How or where have we improved under Mc Entee. He said he would put the foot back in Meath football, yet we are passing it more now than ever. Have we really gone to the point of bringing in a Louth man to help Meath football.
The fact that he has his son on the team who is an average club player undermines his credibility. Kells have the best forward line in the county. Why is Hanlon Reilly or Matimo not on the panel. Indeed Oisin Reilly at midfield would be an option.
If we want to improve its time to move on and bring in a manager who can unite the county. Mc Entee is to decisive"
Hows all in Kells? Where to start with this...

The reality is that we have been promoted to division 1 and reached the super 8 this year.... both were the clear objectives set out at the start of the year. We have beaten the teams that we should have this year, that has certainly not been the case in recent years. To suggest that we have not improved under him is nonsense.

I certainly do not agree with all of his selections or decisions but I am not privy to what is going on at training, I think that Shane is not a good enough footballer to be playing intercounty football and I think that there are at least 7 or 8 better keepers in the county than Colgan.

For the record, Nally is a Dub who is living in Drogheda, it doesn't matter where he is from he has made a big difference and all of the players love what he has added.

I'm sure that both management and players are bitterly disappointed with how the last 3 games have finished but there were enough signs that we are moving in the right direction.

I would argue that Kells have the best set of forwards in the county, they have been found wanting in the biggest games over the past number of years. They are no doubt a serious team who will be there or there abouts this year.

Matimoe has been in and out of the panel for a few years, always liked him as a player maybe he should have got more time.

Who would you suggest is the Manager within Meath to unite everyone and bring us on? I cant think of many All Ireland winning managers looking for the job at the minute, for all his flaws we have the best man for the job in the role now, we have made clear progress over the last 3 years and I feel that his tenure should be extended by at least 2 more years.

longroadback (Meath) - Posts: 300 - 23/07/2019 16:39:05    2215338

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Replying To Barney123:  ""pauk123 (USA) - Posts: 186 - 22/07/2019 21:49:41"
"Nally said it best to the Chronical after Donegal, the Meath players are as good skills wise and physically as anyone they just need to believe that. Until they do, we'll only get so far."


Wouldn't necessarily believe that, anyone who stayed to look at Donegal Kerry after our game would see that statement isn't correct in my opinion. Strange thing to say from our coach as well. Like saying I've done all I can football wise now it's up to the players/someone else to sort out the mental side of it.

Have plenty of time for Nally and believe a lot of our improvement is down to him but thought it was a strange statement to make."
In fairness to Nally Andy said the same to LMFM after Sunday. Something to the effect that he doesn't think the collapse was physical.

So, according to the management team, it must be a mentality that causes these collapses. The team can't seem to shift momentum back their way once it's lost. That's been borne out in results the team don't have the belief to push through against D1 teams. The league will be fascinating to see if that can change. Personally, I don't see much value in replacing Andy (if he even wants to continue) but if he can't change that mentality perhaps it is time to look at someone new?

pauk123 (USA) - Posts: 188 - 23/07/2019 17:06:43    2215347

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Replying To latouche25:  "Well it's to be expected that Royal Dunne a la McEnroe, would bring out the CB spin. We achieved our goals for the year. The reality is. We scored 4 points in the Leinster final. The worst ever by a Meath team. We have played 2 games in the super 8's and have lost heavily in both. How or where have we improved under Mc Entee. He said he would put the foot back in Meath football, yet we are passing it more now than ever. Have we really gone to the point of bringing in a Louth man to help Meath football.
The fact that he has his son on the team who is an average club player undermines his credibility. Kells have the best forward line in the county. Why is Hanlon Reilly or Matimo not on the panel. Indeed Oisin Reilly at midfield would be an option.
If we want to improve its time to move on and bring in a manager who can unite the county. Mc Entee is to decisive"
I from near kells myself but such a load of cow manure your talking there

meath1977 (Meath) - Posts: 445 - 23/07/2019 17:09:38    2215350

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Replying To nobull456:  "Here here. We would be further back without him. Ask the players about his impact"
I think Nally is a Meath man. He was born in Stamullen Co. Meath, Im nearly certain he was. Open to correction on that. But I thought I read he born in County Meath. His father is a Meath man. He played for Dubs but he has strong connections with Meath.

The media has always had an anti Meath vibe to it. But some in the media are really singing the praises of this young Meath team. Kieran Donaghy has become a pundit recently with sky , The Star and Off the Ball and he is actually a really interesting thoughtful passionate pundit. Much better then say a Spillane or Brolley. Anyway he was talking about Meath team yesterday he said this .

He said they are just lacking experience, its the first year with the big boys and it takes time to adapt and learn. He said he thinks Meath are a lovely young team and he says he loves the way this young Meath team plays , he especially admires the Meath defence and especially the full back line. The way they defend from the front he really admires and enjoys watching them and the team as a whole , he says the young Meath players are ballsy and hardy. He really praised the team and could only see the team getting better and better and hes looking forward to see them develop over the coming years . McGee ex Donegal player is pundit for the Star he was also singing the praises of the team last week he said Meath were exciting team with exciting young players, a team.to look out for in coming years. Osin McConville , who I always enjoy to listen to , he is always fair and excellent pundit. Osin McConville said at the end of the match on TV he said with young talent like Walsh and Conlon and players like Menton keoghan and Harnan Meath will.learn from Sunday and will be a team to be reckoned with in the coming years. He said Meath have great hope for the future , just need to keep these young players togther , keep Andy McEntee at the helm .

It feels that people are starting to take notice of this young Meath team outside the county. When was the last time serious football people like Donaghy , McGee and McConville were praising a Meath team . Probably 2007 2009 and 2010.
Its obvious to the people who know their football outside the county who are fair and not biased against Meath that they see Meath as a coming team with lots of potential. Thats what we are , we r improving and we r coming team with lots potential. Watch this Meath team over next 2 to 3 years. We are team improving and will start to peak next summer all the way to summer of 2022. The next 3 summers this Meath football will improve and get better. We have gone from 15th to 7th or 8th best team in the country in 12 months. Players like Lavin McGill Gallagher Harnan McMahon Devine are improving with every game.

Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 968 - 23/07/2019 17:11:49    2215353

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Replying To Borderroyal:  "Just on ur thing furlong mcentee tried for 2 year his we say ballyboden method did it work i dont think so.took them 2 years to fund out he needed a different approach you see not all group dynamic work the same. A truly great manager sees his teams strengths and pushes them in that direction.now dont get me wrong he has done well bot knocking for that but i believe there is more goalies out there midfielders forwards that deserve a chance at least.how he will use the youth will b his biggest worry.in the last few games our games were lost in the time he was bringing on our subs is this coincidental or they just not good enuf.?croker is not the pitch we seem to relish anymore.but rumours have it that some lads just dont like his style or are not enamoured by his honesty put it that way.getting a jersey not getting a jersey if you take my drift.is he goin to take us to another level i believe to do so will have to clean out a few lads now .lets hope for open honest dressing room and drive on from there."
He did a great job at Ballyboden. When he took them over they were going nowhere. He took over an average Dublin club team , look how they have fallen away since he left. U said it took him two years. Yes two years to turn the 6th or 7th best team in Dublin club football into All Ireland club championship, leinster champions and Dublin champions . That is impressive going. look how Ballyboden have declined back to the medicority to were they were before be came. McEntee seems to improve players and teams. Thats whats called a good manager.

Yes he is blunt. But He is a good motivator. McEntee is a passionate individual. And this Meath team are playing with passion. Look at how passionate our defenders are defending thats clearly coming from McEntee. He needs to. keep improving tactics. Nally needs to be retained as coach. But overall these players as they play more at higher level they get better and better.
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Hes building a team in the image of himself. No nonense passionate proper gaelic football team. He has made mistakes and yes he has flaws , but they're is no other manager or coach in Meath that would have done what he did this year. Name the manager or coach that has division 1 inter county CV in Meath football. We need to have sucessor when McEntee goes. But at the moment there is none. Other then Malachy O Rourke outside the county theyre are very few candidates. He is the best man available for the job. And everywhere he has managed he has been sucess. This is fourth job
Job 1 Meath minor manager led Meath to our only underage All Ireland final in last 17 years . When we reached All Ireland minor final in 2012. Meath have only played two underage All Ireland finals since 2000 eg 2002 minor final and 2012 minor final
Job 2 Managed Ashbourne to Intermediate county title
Job 3 Managed Ballyboden to Dublin, leinster , All Ireland title
Job 4 Managed Meath seniors to Division 1 for first time in 13 years , first leinster final in 5 years and first quater final in 9 years.

So he has been sucess every where he has gone. Would it not make sense to keep in the job for 2 to 3 years and hopefully have sucessor ready then. Other counties would laugh at Meath if we got rid of McEntee. Cavan kildare louth and Dublin would be delighted . It doesnt make any sense. We make huge progress have our best season in a decade and we get rid of manager. And we have no one with similar CV to take over we have no obvious sucessor. Will we not end up with a worst manager. And surely a worse manager is not going to improve things. We will go back under a worse manager. We did that before. We got rid of O Brien who made great progress in 09 and 10. We replaced with Banty and we ended up in divsion 3. Thats where we could easily go if we are not cute clever and be patient.

Yes he has flaws , and I like others I am not happy with certain things. But overall for me he is the best manager we have had since Boylan. And the idea of looking for a new senior Meath manager really is something I would dread. We had 6 Meath managers in 8 years between 2005 and 2013 eg Boylan , Barry , Coyle , O Brien , Banty and O Dowd. Dublin had 2 managers in the same period we had 6 managers. Dublin became the top team in the country. We ended up in divsion 3. Surely we have learned our lesson.

Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 968 - 23/07/2019 17:55:39    2215375

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Replying To meath1977:  "I from near kells myself but such a load of cow manure your talking there"
Well if you're from near kells and disagree with my opinion on these lads , why have they won the feis cup last year, are in the league final next week. Been in the last 4 of the Championship for the last 4 years. They've been the best forward unit with beanie Hanlon the most consistent forward in Meath over the past number of years. You are clearly letting your begrudgingly get the better of you. On another point if Mc Entee is such a good manager why did 2 lads who started in the Leinster final leave the panel before the Mayo game?

latouche25 (Meath) - Posts: 313 - 23/07/2019 18:32:13    2215391

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Replying To latouche25:  "Well if you're from near kells and disagree with my opinion on these lads , why have they won the feis cup last year, are in the league final next week. Been in the last 4 of the Championship for the last 4 years. They've been the best forward unit with beanie Hanlon the most consistent forward in Meath over the past number of years. You are clearly letting your begrudgingly get the better of you. On another point if Mc Entee is such a good manager why did 2 lads who started in the Leinster final leave the panel before the Mayo game?"
who left the panel ?

WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 828 - 23/07/2019 19:34:24    2215409

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Replying To latouche25:  "Well it's to be expected that Royal Dunne a la McEnroe, would bring out the CB spin. We achieved our goals for the year. The reality is. We scored 4 points in the Leinster final. The worst ever by a Meath team. We have played 2 games in the super 8's and have lost heavily in both. How or where have we improved under Mc Entee. He said he would put the foot back in Meath football, yet we are passing it more now than ever. Have we really gone to the point of bringing in a Louth man to help Meath football.
The fact that he has his son on the team who is an average club player undermines his credibility. Kells have the best forward line in the county. Why is Hanlon Reilly or Matimo not on the panel. Indeed Oisin Reilly at midfield would be an option.
If we want to improve its time to move on and bring in a manager who can unite the county. Mc Entee is to decisive"
Well said. As I keep saying Carlow loais offaly and Clare. Good to win those games but it cant be talked up. I'd keep Mcentee but would be great if he'd give a few of the kells lads a shout. The other side of the coin is maybe they were asked in and didn't want it. Which is fair enough. Its alot of commitment

Jackpot (Meath) - Posts: 199 - 23/07/2019 20:07:32    2215422

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Replying To meath1977:  "I from near kells myself but such a load of cow manure your talking there"
That's this usernames first post since we lost to dubs in obc. Pay no heed , he really hasn't a clue.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 16642 - 23/07/2019 20:14:36    2215424

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Replying To WhyTheLongFace:  "who left the panel ?"
No one. Brennan was injured prior to donegal game. And everyone and his brother knows that biggie picked up a injury during the week but is expected to be back on panel for Kerry game.
This nonsense was going around social media. Absolutely disgraceful to say either left panel. Neither did. And to say otherwise is total horse manure.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 16642 - 23/07/2019 20:32:45    2215434

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Replying To royaldunne:  "No one. Brennan was injured prior to donegal game. And everyone and his brother knows that biggie picked up a injury during the week but is expected to be back on panel for Kerry game.
This nonsense was going around social media. Absolutely disgraceful to say either left panel. Neither did. And to say otherwise is total horse manure."
I know nobody left the panel ,I just wanted to see what kinda garbage would he tell me.

WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 828 - 23/07/2019 22:32:59    2215494

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What is this absolute rubbish about moving on from McEntee. Laughable. We finally have a good year and have a great coaching ticket in McEntee and Nally and people want to get rid of it. Also it's up to the lads who have stepped away to come back and work their hardest to fit into to the good culture in this squad. Andy is the one with the proven winning record, not these lads. And this year with less talent but better attitude we had a much better season. The players who left need to look at themselves before Andy does

LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 778 - 23/07/2019 22:37:38    2215497

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Replying To Furlong1949:  "He did a great job at Ballyboden. When he took them over they were going nowhere. He took over an average Dublin club team , look how they have fallen away since he left. U said it took him two years. Yes two years to turn the 6th or 7th best team in Dublin club football into All Ireland club championship, leinster champions and Dublin champions . That is impressive going. look how Ballyboden have declined back to the medicority to were they were before be came. McEntee seems to improve players and teams. Thats whats called a good manager.

Yes he is blunt. But He is a good motivator. McEntee is a passionate individual. And this Meath team are playing with passion. Look at how passionate our defenders are defending thats clearly coming from McEntee. He needs to. keep improving tactics. Nally needs to be retained as coach. But overall these players as they play more at higher level they get better and better.
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Hes building a team in the image of himself. No nonense passionate proper gaelic football team. He has made mistakes and yes he has flaws , but they're is no other manager or coach in Meath that would have done what he did this year. Name the manager or coach that has division 1 inter county CV in Meath football. We need to have sucessor when McEntee goes. But at the moment there is none. Other then Malachy O Rourke outside the county theyre are very few candidates. He is the best man available for the job. And everywhere he has managed he has been sucess. This is fourth job
Job 1 Meath minor manager led Meath to our only underage All Ireland final in last 17 years . When we reached All Ireland minor final in 2012. Meath have only played two underage All Ireland finals since 2000 eg 2002 minor final and 2012 minor final
Job 2 Managed Ashbourne to Intermediate county title
Job 3 Managed Ballyboden to Dublin, leinster , All Ireland title
Job 4 Managed Meath seniors to Division 1 for first time in 13 years , first leinster final in 5 years and first quater final in 9 years.

So he has been sucess every where he has gone. Would it not make sense to keep in the job for 2 to 3 years and hopefully have sucessor ready then. Other counties would laugh at Meath if we got rid of McEntee. Cavan kildare louth and Dublin would be delighted . It doesnt make any sense. We make huge progress have our best season in a decade and we get rid of manager. And we have no one with similar CV to take over we have no obvious sucessor. Will we not end up with a worst manager. And surely a worse manager is not going to improve things. We will go back under a worse manager. We did that before. We got rid of O Brien who made great progress in 09 and 10. We replaced with Banty and we ended up in divsion 3. Thats where we could easily go if we are not cute clever and be patient.

Yes he has flaws , and I like others I am not happy with certain things. But overall for me he is the best manager we have had since Boylan. And the idea of looking for a new senior Meath manager really is something I would dread. We had 6 Meath managers in 8 years between 2005 and 2013 eg Boylan , Barry , Coyle , O Brien , Banty and O Dowd. Dublin had 2 managers in the same period we had 6 managers. Dublin became the top team in the country. We ended up in divsion 3. Surely we have learned our lesson."
Never said anything bout getting rid of anyone.just stating what i think can b and shoulf b done for future development spinni g out known facts is fine but im only giving .y opinion what i belive needs to b our priority for year ahead.please give me your unhappy thoughts on our set up.

Borderroyal (Meath) - Posts: 175 - 23/07/2019 23:00:30    2215510

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