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Can You See Past Kiltale In The 2019 Championship?

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Replying To Irish_downunder:  "Be curious to now myself as i think i changed last year once the groups were done did it not?"
The draw did not change last year when the groups were done. All pairings were exactly as outlined by the county regulations/bye laws. Those regulations were published about 2 weeks after the draws were made. Some idiots went on social media with their own idea of what the draw should be and this caused confusion.

It is offensive to accuse any county board/committee of changing a draw when qualifiers become known. Show some respect.

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1063 - 20/08/2019 10:47:29    2227810

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Replying To CastleBravo:  "Assuming it's the same as last year (which was set well in advance, despite some conspiracy theories about Kildalkey somehow changing the draw at the last minute....) it'll be 1st in Group B vs. 4th in Group A, winner plays 1st in Group A. and it'll be 2nd in Group B vs. 3rd in Group A, winner plays 2nd in Group A.

So:
QF1: A4 Vs B1
QF2: A3 Vs B2

SF1: Kiltale Vs QF1 winner
SF2: A2 Vs QF2 Winner"
so other than an extra game to be played Longwood or kildalkey have the same path if i am reading the info correct ?

StickFan (Meath) - Posts: 217 - 20/08/2019 11:21:44    2227824

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Replying To MillerX:  "The draw did not change last year when the groups were done. All pairings were exactly as outlined by the county regulations/bye laws. Those regulations were published about 2 weeks after the draws were made. Some idiots went on social media with their own idea of what the draw should be and this caused confusion.

It is offensive to accuse any county board/committee of changing a draw when qualifiers become known. Show some respect."
I havent accused anyone of changing anythin i merely asked if there was a change after the group stages?

Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 630 - 20/08/2019 12:05:20    2227840

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Replying To StickFan:  "so other than an extra game to be played Longwood or kildalkey have the same path if i am reading the info correct ?"
If Longwood and Kildalkey finish in 2nd and 3rd (in either order) then yes they will both be on the same side of the draw and avoid Kiltale.

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1643 - 20/08/2019 19:15:15    2227998

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so better to Finish in second in B to avoid kiltale like Trim last year

Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 630 - 21/08/2019 08:14:52    2228073

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Replying To Irish_downunder:  "so better to Finish in second in B to avoid kiltale like Trim last year"
2nd in B will avoid Kiltale but must first play 3rd in A. Last year it was not as clear cut as Kiltale did not finish first in A like they this year.

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1063 - 21/08/2019 11:17:16    2228134

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Dosnt seem right that potentially going on the format above, B2 on paper have an easier route than B1?

Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 630 - 21/08/2019 15:26:02    2228258

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Replying To Irish_downunder:  "Dosnt seem right that potentially going on the format above, B2 on paper have an easier route than B1?"
There's no way of having a perfect system really. You want to "reward" team B1 for topping their group, so you pair them against A4 rather than A3. But at the same time you have to "reward" A1 for topping their group, so they too have to be paired against A4.....

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1643 - 21/08/2019 16:28:13    2228291

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I had a good look through the championship and the knockouts are more or less set.
With Killyon and Dunboyne nothing to play for I expect them to be beaten in there last games and Kiltale to overcome Ratoath.
Leaving it 1) Kiltale 2)Kildalkey ( only because I don't see Longwood winning by 10+ 3)Longwood and 4) Ratoath.
Winner of Trim Na fianna tops group B.
I fancy trim to win that.
Q final: Winner^ v Ratoath= Kiltale in semi
Loser^^ v Longwood=Kildalkey In Semi

Meathgaalad (Meath) - Posts: 169 - 21/08/2019 17:52:35    2228317

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trim would be better off losing to na fianna in last game then they avoid kiltale and stay in wweaker group b again next year

dickie10 (UK) - Posts: 687 - 21/08/2019 23:14:33    2228397

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Looks like Boardsmill relegated after tonight's result.

showforit (Meath) - Posts: 156 - 21/08/2019 23:18:48    2228398

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Boardsmill relegated to Intermediate, very surprised at that.

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1643 - 21/08/2019 23:51:24    2228406

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Replying To CastleBravo:  "Boardsmill relegated to Intermediate, very surprised at that."
They were unlucky not to make a quarter final last year but very few clubs could withstand losing 5 or 6 starters from one year to the next, let alone a small rural club

Thought they would beat Navan all the same, even looking at the result last night they got more scores but the goals killed them

Belt (Meath) - Posts: 253 - 22/08/2019 09:35:24    2228429

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Replying To dickie10:  "trim would be better off losing to na fianna in last game then they avoid kiltale and stay in wweaker group b again next year"
Who said that Trim would avoid Kiltale by finishing 2nd in Group B, they would also avoid Kiltale by losing the quarterfinal. They have no God given right to walk over any of the qualifiers from Group A and if they have any doubts let them reflect on the great escape against Blackhall. If they do lose to Na Fianna so what? Maybe they may not have been able to beat them in any case and maybe Na Fianna May also want to avoid Kiltale so that would be some farce.
Loosing is a habit!!

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1063 - 22/08/2019 11:09:34    2228460

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Replying To MillerX:  "Who said that Trim would avoid Kiltale by finishing 2nd in Group B, they would also avoid Kiltale by losing the quarterfinal. They have no God given right to walk over any of the qualifiers from Group A and if they have any doubts let them reflect on the great escape against Blackhall. If they do lose to Na Fianna so what? Maybe they may not have been able to beat them in any case and maybe Na Fianna May also want to avoid Kiltale so that would be some farce.
Loosing is a habit!!"
Going by results, I would say Kiltale would rather avoid Trim. Trim would have the best chance of beating Kiltale, they were unlucky in final last year.

overthehill72 (Meath) - Posts: 334 - 22/08/2019 12:29:21    2228492

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The semi could be the chance for Trim to get Kiltale possibly, catch them off guard possibly (saying they beat whoever in the quarter).
Interesting game v Na Fianna. Wonder will they have Douglas? Anyone know whats up with him as I see he played for the footballers?

Meathman678 (Meath) - Posts: 63 - 22/08/2019 22:35:59    2228656

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Replying To overthehill72:  "Going by results, I would say Kiltale would rather avoid Trim. Trim would have the best chance of beating Kiltale, they were unlucky in final last year."
i wouldnt say unlucky, kiltale went through the gears when they wanted to, maybe if trim had every player playing rather than minding themselves for other codes it may have been different but said i doubt it either, dont see anyone beating kiltale this year in club champ and think they will leinster the best rattle yet

StickFan (Meath) - Posts: 217 - 23/08/2019 08:19:22    2228685

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Replying To StickFan:  "i wouldnt say unlucky, kiltale went through the gears when they wanted to, maybe if trim had every player playing rather than minding themselves for other codes it may have been different but said i doubt it either, dont see anyone beating kiltale this year in club champ and think they will leinster the best rattle yet"
who was minding themselves??

Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 630 - 23/08/2019 10:03:29    2228695

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Replying To Irish_downunder:  "who was minding themselves??"
The lad that did not play. By Irish downunder I thought you may have got the tag fro Oz, didn't realize that you are actually hidden away out of sight and out of mine and with no way of knowing what goes on in the real world. People from well outside the county were wondering why the player in question missed the final and you don't know. Find a minder for C... sake. I don't think you should go out on your own.

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1063 - 23/08/2019 19:28:02    2228857

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Replying To MillerX:  "The lad that did not play. By Irish downunder I thought you may have got the tag fro Oz, didn't realize that you are actually hidden away out of sight and out of mine and with no way of knowing what goes on in the real world. People from well outside the county were wondering why the player in question missed the final and you don't know. Find a minder for C... sake. I don't think you should go out on your own."
right you got nothing so. Togher was the only one off the starting 15 who didn't play as he was injured. No one was missing or said they wouldn't play so they could play footy.

Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 630 - 24/08/2019 20:10:56    2229039

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