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Tradition - 11 Like(s)

Replying To skillet:  "Think the shackles of the Catholic Church have been well left behind... Now we've got the Woke, perpetually offended and outraged by everything Shackles to deal with."
Boy have you got that one right skillet. One highly intolerant orthodoxy has been replaced by another even more intolerant orthodoxy. I'm not for one second defending what it did but at least the Catholic Church never pretended to be tolerant and inclusive. This so called liberal, inclusive and tolerant crowd we have to listen to now are only liberal, tolerant and inclusive if you agree with what they say. If you're not they'll "cancel" you which is the new term for obliterate you. No throwing the ball in for those boys.

Greengrass (National) - 13/01/2021 22:48:33

Tradition - 9 Like(s)

Replying To MesAmis:  "Who are they? What influence do "they" have that is comparible to the influence the Catholic Church had in Ireland? Would you ever give over."
"They" for a start are the chattering class commentariat who populate our media. Don't kid yourself MesAmis. They wield very significant power in this country. They are every bit as intolerant as the Church was. There is no doubt that this country is infinitely more socially inclusive than it used to be but then that can also be said of other societies in Europe including our neighbours across the water. However, as has already been pointed out to you if someone voices an opinion contrary to the consensus in this country they can now find themselves the subject of a vicious backlash from the so called liberal consensus. People of faith and their faith itself are now very regularly sneered at. How often have you seen the terms like "the fairy in the sky" used to describe faith. In relation to abuse the vast bulk of abuse was and continues to be perpetrated by lay people. What was done by the clergy was beyond description in terms of horrific cruelty but it was only the tip of the iceberg.

Greengrass (National) - 14/01/2021 18:26:14

Loughnane tears into Galway - 7 Like(s)
His piece is way over the top . The match yesterday was very competitive and hard fought for 60 minutes. The better team with the greater resources pulled away in the end . Tactically in the second half Brian Cody's positional changes made a big difference . The article in relation both to the Galway players and Michael Donoghue is overly personal and very bitter . Ger's standards of journalism are poor even by the standards of tabloid journalism.

Greengrass (National) - 04/07/2016 17:00:26

You Couldn't Pay Me To Go And Watch A Game Of Football - 7 Like(s)

Replying To Convert1:  "Neil Moyna's of DCU comment on current senior and intercounty football not to mention 3rd level inter college being a turn off. What do folks think. For me I have to agree with him that defensive systems and 14/15 men behind the ball in your own half is a turn off. Hurling or rugby now have far more appeal. No enjoyment to watch and I can imagine no enjoyment to play as well. Maybe the 5 new rules being tested might breath some life into the game. For a game I enjoyed to play, coach and watch now becoming something i do not feel worth watching anymore."
Niall Moyna said, "you couldn't pay me to go and watch a game of football". His own county, Monaghan had a great season . They won 5 games in Division One and beat Dublin in Croke Park. They then got to an All Ireland semi final . They played 9 championship matches winning 6 of them drawing with Kerry in a cracking game and losing 2 matches. Moyna went to none of those games. However he told us that he did attend one inter county this year. What game was that ? You got it .... the All Ireland Final. According to himself he can't stand football yet he takes up a seat that many football fans would have loved to be in.

Greengrass (National) - 30/12/2018 17:39:51

Kerry have it easy. - 7 Like(s)

Replying To jacktheDub:  "Lads ye are trying to defend the indefensible ye have a huge advantage based on geography. Before the qualifiers ye could play 3 games to get to an all ireland final. That amount of games would only play a leinster final that's another advantage. Win 2 games in a hurling province and ye were in a semi final. Your great team of the 70's had to beat Tipperary, Cork, Sligo to get to an ALL-IRELAND final one year!!!!. As I mentioned your conversion rate from munster to all ireland's is poor due to the annual cake walk against hurling counties."
Rubbish. There is no such thing as an easy All Ireland. To win the All Ireland you will eventually have to beat the best teams in the land. Ultimately despite the fact that they come out of a "hurling" province each year to win an All Ireland that is what Kerry have had to do.The one constant in Gaelic football is Kerry. They consistently throughout the history of Gaelic football have produced great teams. Other counties have produced a great team and then disappeared. The badge of authenticity for each of these counties greatest teams is that they have beaten Kerry. Look at Wexford between 1913-18 . Look at Kildare in the twenties, Roscommon and Cavan in the forties, Galway and Down in the sixties, Dublin in the seventies, Cork in the eighties, Armagh and Tyrone in the noughties and now this great Dublin team. Every one of them beat Kerry. The greatest team of them all was the Kerry team of the seventies. As I said there is no such thing as an easy All Ireland. Kerry have won 37 of them. The reason for that is because they consistently produce outstanding teams whilst other counties come and go. As for this guff about Kerry in to Leinster or Ulster don't make me laugh !!! If Kerry werte in Leinster there would be a lot less Leinster titles to go around for Leinster counties including Dublin. The same would hold true of Ulster and Ulster counties. The reason that Kerry have more All Irelands than any other county is because they are the best football county.

Greengrass (National) - 02/08/2017 13:12:27

Dublin V Kildare - Is This Not Being Televised? - 7 Like(s)

Replying To legendzxix:  "Are Dublin not box office? The capital would surely naturally have big viewing figures by size of population?"
The only provincial football game bar the finals being shown by RTE is Tyrone v Donegal . RTE should hang their heads in shame .

Greengrass (National) - 04/06/2019 11:21:43

Crazy Decision Regarding Under 20 Football Final - 7 Like(s)

Replying To KillingFields:  "The only rugby matches that are allowed now are professional games where all players are tested on very regular basis. Players dont work other jobs. Not the same as the GAA."
That's not true. The women's rugby team is not professional. They are amateur. They work outside rugby to earn a living. They are going to Paris of all places next week to play France in The Six Nations. Paris is in lockdown and there is a night time curfew. France has declared a state of emergency due to the fact that there are approximately 30,000 new cases of Covid every day. There are over 100 Covid deaths every day in France at the moment. The logistics of going to France involve travelling from Dublin, travelling to your accommodation, travelling to and from your team training base, travelling to and from the stadium, living In the team hotel and travelling back to Dublin. Yet The IRFU thinks it's acceptable to send an amateur panel, management team, back room team and officials to France !!! Sending any team to France including the men's team at the moment is highly questionable. Testing only tells you whether or not you have Covid. It doesn't prevent you from getting it.

Greengrass (National) - 22/10/2020 10:06:38

Connelly/Holmes - 6 Like(s)

Replying To Mayonman:  "very self serving article. to have a go at AOS, whatever you think about him, for trying to get a bit of career for himself says so much about their mgt style. memo to holmes/coneelly ..........it is an amateur sport and u are not entitled to interfere with a players career. not a very holistic approach to management. hanging a player out to dry over expressing a preference for a keeper. not great lads. maybe players should have no opinions?? players kept their reasons private and so should the x mgmt. they have now started to make it personal. reflects badly on them. going on about humiliation......................grow up. u were dropped as managers. players get dropped every week and have to roll with it. I think their is a cult of manager out there who will drown in their own self importance! PS don't be misled by my name..........................I'm a Galway man to the core and actually enjoying this a bit:-)"
Wrong. The players didn't keep their reasons private as you say. The players didn't have the courage or the decency to give Holmes and Connelly the reasons for their discontent. That meant that the management team was not able to defend itself . There was nothing private about this . Holmes and Connelly were very publicly humiliated . This was entirely orchestrated . Subsequently the players presented the county board with a list of demands with a deadline of four days from the date of receipt of the list given for accedence to the demands . This was accompanied by a threat of strike if the demands weren't acceded to . The reason the players wanted all this done behind closed doors is because they knew well what the public reaction would be . There was nothing honourable in how they went about their business .

Greengrass (National) - 19/12/2016 17:22:15

Joe Canning - not fit to lace Shefflin's boots - 6 Like(s)

Replying To Pinkie:  "There is absolutely no doubting the supreme talent of Joe Canning, and he is often compared to Henry Shefflin in terms of ability and skill. For me, that is where the similarities start and finish. There is 1 huge difference, when Kilkenny needed Shefflin most, Shefflin delivered. I'm thinking of the drawn final a few years ago, when Kilkenny were all at sea, Shefflin took the game by the scruff of the neck and single handedly dragged Kilkenny back into the game and got them over the line and a replay. When Shefflin was missing, in finals v Tipp and v Cork when he was sent off, Kilkenny struggled. When Galway need Canning most, Canning is missing and nowhere to be seen. Yesterday typified this. And this has been the story of Joe. He has the ability to score a wonderful goal, but for me he is not fit to lace Shefflin's boots. Am I being too hard on him? Is it because he is marshalled so well and people think stop Joe stop Galway? I personally would never want to be relying on Joe to win a match for me, Shefflin I would bet my life on winning a match for me."
Yes you are being too harsh on him . Henry Shefflin is the best forward I have ever seen . The comparison you make is unfair for one simple reason . Henry Shefflin never had to play against these great Kilkenny teams .

Greengrass (National) - 04/07/2016 16:50:46

Tradition - 6 Like(s)

Replying To ONdeDITCH:  "The thing about Catholicism in practice is that its totally lacking in humanity,some of us copped it at an early age but more and more have copped it throughout my lifetime thankfully.There will always be a cohort that can't drag themselves away from it."
I can't accept that in practice Catholicism is lacking in humanity. I see people who are practising Catholics showing humanity every day. Kindness and compassion for your fellow human beings was at the core of Jesus message. Like most philosophies men twisted and corrupted the philosophy in order to develop and maintain power. The desire to gain and maintain power is a characteristic innate in humanity . It is not confined to the church. Look at the desire to conquer, subjugate and exploit fellow human beings. That has manifested itself since the dawn of recorded time. Another characteristic of mankind that has manifested itself even in the face of the most vile, appalling crimes is the instinct to protect the institution. That was particularly apparent in the Churches especially the Catholic Church. It is also apparent in government institutions worldwide. It can also be seen in financial institutions especially banks. A common denominator in a lot of this is that the ordinary individual in these institutions does not partake in this vile corruption. It is those in positions of power who do so. The Catholic hierarchy chose to practise, condone and conceal this vile abuse. Corruption, sadly, is part of the human condition. That is why I can't accept that there is no humanity in Catholicism. You'll see humanity and compassion demonstrated by ordinary Catholics as they live their daily lives.

Greengrass (National) - 14/01/2021 10:40:45

Shane Ross Comments On Facilities - 6 Like(s)

Replying To DonaldDuck:  "You are kind of proving my point in saying "Think over 2018/2019 so far there has been at least 4 new rugby clubs set up". Rugby is on the crest of a wave at the moment. Imagine how many rugby clubs would be set up if they were granted access to the GAA pitch on every town and village in the country? A lot more. Why would the GAA facilitate a rival sport to spring up in village where they are already tight on numbers? tomhealycork (Cork) - Posts: 19 - 2/1/19 3:29:48 PMNobody has said sports clubs(why are you only saying rugby???) should be given access to any/every GAA pitch??"
The point you are missing is that your suggestion is one way street . There are no rugby or soccer stadia in this country which are capable of hosting Gaelic Games . The pitches are too small . The only organisation which has the stadia to ground share with other sports is The GAA. The argument that any organisation that is in receipt of taxpayers money/government grants when developing new playing facilities should be compelled to facilitate other sports is a nonsense . If that point of view becomes policy then it must be applied to all field sporting organisations not just The GAA. If Leinster Rugby were to develop their own stadium and were in receipt of government grants they would have to lay a pitch that was big enough to accommodate Gaelic Games with all the extra costs that would entail as a result of the increase in the size of the stadium . If Dundalk FC were to develop a new stadium they too were they in receipt of government grants would have to lay down a pitch that was big enough to accommodate Gaelic Games with all the extra costs that would entail . It's another example of Shane Ross who is the archetypal political chancer jumping on the bandwagon of a popular issue without engaging his brain . What he knows about sport could be written on the back of a stamp .

Greengrass (National) - 01/02/2019 17:20:03

Will Offensive Mark Favour Some Counties - 6 Like(s)

Replying To sligo joe:  "Take your point, fair enough, but when Stephen O'Brien, comes out with such self-praising drivel it is hard to ignore, like and he continues on to say he's not sure which was his best inter-county season, wait for it, because they were all so good, really you could not make it up, hard to ignore an ego like this, so sorry for boring ye."
A truly pathetic post.

Greengrass (National) - 11/01/2020 02:21:40

Sean Boylan Vs Jim Gavin - Who Is The Greatest? - 5 Like(s)

Replying To endgame:  "Micko managed Kerry for 15 years (1974-1989). He won 8 All-Ireland's during that time.Jim Gavin's management of Dublin was far shorter.He managed them from 2012-2019 and won 6 All-Ireland's.Gavin chose to stand down when there were probably more All Ireland's to be won with that Dublin team.When Micko quit, Kerry were gone and they didn't win another All -Ireland for 8 years after he left."
Micko's managerial career didn't finish with Kerry . He managed Kildare twice after Kerry. He then went Laois . Subsequent to Laois he went to Wicklow. Kildare have won two Leinster titles since 1956 . Micko managed them to both of those titles . They have reached one All Ireland final since 1935. Micko managed them to that final. Laois have won one Leinster title since 1946 . Micko managed them to that title . Wicklow have only ever reached the final round of the All Ireland qualifiers once in their history . Micko was their manager when they reached that stage . When Kerry reached the All Ireland final under Micko in 1975 Dublin were hot favourites . Kerry won. Micko over the course of his managerial career has shown an ability to manage teams to win against the odds . He did it in the early days with Kerry before he moulded then in to one of the two most successful teams in football history. He led Kildare against the odds to what are still their two greatest successes since 1935. He led Laois against the odds to what is still their greatest triumph since 1946. He led Wicklow against the odds to possibly the greatest championship run in their history. Jim Gavin managed Dublin in 45 championship matches . Never once in any of those 45 matches did Jim Gavin have to manage a team that were in any way markedly inferior to their opponents . Never once in his career has he managed a team that had to win a match against the odds . I'm not saying he couldn't do it . But he has never had to do it in so much as even one championship match much less a championship campaign. Don't get me wrong . Jim Gavin has done a magnificent job with Dublin and deserves to be considered as one of the great football managers . I love what he did with Dublin and more importantly I love how he did it . All of the great managers of modern times have triumphEd against the odds . Cody did it last season with Kilkenny against Limerick. John O Mahony did it with Mayo, Leitrim and Galway . Micky Harte, Joe Kernan and Sean Boylan have all done it . There is a massive gap in Jim Gavin's list of achievements. To fill that gap he has to lead a team to triumph against the odds . That is why in my opinion Micko is ahead of Jim Gavin and why others I have listed deserve to be considered as being at Jim Gavin's level if not indeed above him .

Greengrass (National) - 02/06/2020 00:16:19

Sunday Game Football Team - 5 Like(s)

Replying To mick2007:  "Comparing Fenton to the former greats like tohill, o' shea and Buckley is like comparing apples to oranges..I was lucky enough to see tohill playing numerous times and my God what a player he was awesome he was a truly incredible player... there is very little contested kick outs nowadays compared to back then.. it was win your own ball or else you would be getting the curly finger fairly swiftly..when it was kicked out into the mixer it was a battle of the bravest in them days.. In my opinion Fenton would struggle playing in them days physically, the likes of darragh and tohill would throw him about physically.. take an average player like jack Barry from Kerry who's a big unit he can nearly always keep Fenton quiet due to his size so imagine what tohill or o'sea would do with twice the ability that Barry has and power to boot...Fenton wouldn't be seen... I'm not disputing Fenton is a serious player and athlete but it's all short kick outs and running off the shoulder which suits athletes like Fenton added into the fact that he's playing in a great side that's pumping most teams.. when Cluxton is kicking the ball out for Dublin he has a choice off 5 free men usually.. I'd safely say if I stick a pair of boots on my aul fella who's 75 he could even kick the ball out for Dublin.. Even take my own county we have a few average ball plAyers on the team currently but they can run and run so that's mostly why there on the team.. athletes over skill..average defenders limations are masked over by the blanket.. go back to another ex Derry player Kieran mc keever corner back what a marvellous player in his day would grace any side current or past.. he was like glue and marked the likes of Mickey linden, James mc carton one on one"
I too saw those players you mention . I saw Anthony Tohill at his best and yes he was a terrific footballer . I saw Jackie in e dry All Ireland final he ever played . I saw Darrsgh O Se in every All Ireland final he ever played . In my opinion Brian Fenton is the equal of and better than all of them . Yes those men you mention were magnificent players . But so too is Brian Fenton . To characterise him as an athlete is disrespectful and wrong . He is so much more than that . He has mastered every skill in the game

Greengrass (National) - 21/05/2020 18:00:25

Cork's Commemorate Jersey - 5 Like(s)

Replying To hurler32:  "Hard facts are we should never have agreed to spilt our island, we should have all remained part of the United Kingdom or been part of an united Ireland. Why Should the People of Galway or Meath be part of Ireland as opposed to the people of Armagh or Tyrone. If many of us lived in the 6 counties we'd have a very different view of the world to living 2-300 miles from our nearest British army barracks."
What's this "we" nonsense ? You weren't there at the time .

Greengrass (National) - 27/02/2020 13:50:59

The weather and the Euros! - 5 Like(s)

Replying To tearintom:  "So attendances are down or to paraphrase "somewhat down" this year for our GAA matches. But its the weather even though i would say myself that the weather is no different than a normal Irish summer. Then there was the Euros, 2 of irelands 4 games were on a monday and thursday, one was on at 2pm on a saturday with i think maybe 3 qualifier games affected, the other on a sunday with 2 games in Croke park moved to accomodate the Ireland euro game against France. The term "somewhat down" lends me to believe its not and insignificant drop and i dont believe the timing of the euros game had that much affect at all seeing as the main games that were on the 18th and 26th of June didnt clash at all with the Euros. Could it be that people are just not attending games in the same numbers because whats being served up is simply not as enjoyable as it was in both codes despite the protestation by some that we are looking at intriguing tactical chess battles that the ordinary punter just doesnt understand! Wait, whats that in the corner of the room, couldnt be an elephant could it?"
It could also be down to the fact that both Leinster Finals were almost certain to be the "same old same old" and the Munster football final did not feature Cork . My family have 3 Premium seats between us in Croke Park. We literally could not give them away and I mean give them away for either Leinster final . People were not prepared to pay the train fare to go and see what they felt were entirely predictable games . That has nothing to do with the way the games are being played . It has all to do with the lack of competition. Clones was filled to capacity for the Ulster Final. That final was the epitome of all you profess distaste and disdain for . People want competition and contests . Last year's figures show an increase in attendances in Ulster for the fifth successive season . This is the province which has seen attendances of up to 10,000 for McKenna Cup Finals. I think you have seen what you want to see in terms of attendances and have gleefully attributed that to your theory of how the game is played . That is a little simplistic and you need to create time for a little more mature reflection . Wucklowman harked back to a time when midfielders were midfielders and the game was played "as it should be played". Maybe both of you should look at the attendance figures and scores for All Ireland semi finals and finals in the late seventies and early eighties .

Greengrass (National) - 27/07/2016 11:33:22

Sean Boylan Vs Jim Gavin - Who Is The Greatest? - 5 Like(s)

Replying To TheUsername:  "Kerry supporters react, to getting smashed and surrendering Dublin the 5 in a row. [url=
https://youtu.be/LwZNG7Uuu7g"]Could you try to be a bit more like Jim Gavin and the Dublin squad and win with a bit of class.

Greengrass (National) - 02/06/2020 18:08:14

The Corona Virus And Possible Effects To GAA Matches - 5 Like(s)

Replying To cavanman47:  "So you're a frontline healthcare worker who thinks the notion that people will die from the virus are over the top?? I take it you don't work in the ICU dept of any of our major hospitals then? Oh, and I hope you never do!"
Who are you to jump to assumptions in relation to where anyone works.

Greengrass (National) - 23/10/2020 13:57:33

Crazy Decision Regarding Under 20 Football Final - 5 Like(s)

Replying To KillingFields:  "They won't be overage and ut is silly to say otherwise. The competition started this year. I'm not sure why the game is being cancelled. Is it being cancelled because of the new restrictions or have The GAA unilaterally decided to cancel all underage competitions? If the game is being cancelled because of the new restrictions then you are correct when you say it cannot be played. It will be played when the restrictions are lifted and circumstances allow. Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 5116 - 22/10/2020 04:50:58 Its ridiculous to hold off this competition until 2021 when the next years competition will be on and you are playing an under 20 competition when the players who are under 20s will actually be under 21s.... That's not true. The women's rugby team is not professional. They are amateur. They work outside rugby to earn a living. They are going to Paris of all places next week to play France in The Six Nations. Paris is in lockdown and there is a night time curfew. France has declared a state of emergency due to the fact that there are approximately 30,000 new cases of Covid every day. There are over 100 Covid deaths every day in France at the moment. The logistics of going to France involve travelling from Dublin, travelling to your accommodation, travelling to and from your team training base, travelling to and from the stadium, living In the team hotel and travelling back to Dublin. Yet The IRFU thinks it's acceptable to send an amateur panel, management team, back room team and officials to France !!! Sending any team to France including the men's team at the moment is highly questionable. Testing only tells you whether or not you have Covid. It doesn't prevent you from getting it. Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 5116 - 22/10/2020 10:06:38 Womens team can be in a bubble and their is quite a few who're involved in 7s and are pros.... Logistics can be done with the full pro set up the rugby union have Are you claiming you know more than all involved in irish union, the government who will have been consulted? Testing on regular basis and following basic procedures that all have been doing in recent months - social distancing, limiting contact etc helps reduce chances of getting covid...."
Firstly according to irishrugby.ie 6 of the women's sevens squad are named on the women's rugby panel which has 38 players named on it . That means that only 16% of the women's rugby panel are professional. That means 84% or 32 of the panel are amateur. Add your management team, backroom team and IRFU officials and that's a large party of people travelling to a city in lockdown that is the capital of a country that has declared a state of emergency. Secondly Munster for all the expertise of Munster Rugby and The IRFU have already had two outbreaks of Covid in their ranks. You can have all the expertise you want but this is a particularly efficient and contagious microbe we are dealing with. Sending two large parties of people to Paris is taking a risk. Thirdly, The IRFU like all sporting organisations has taken a very hard hit financially. Notwithstanding the fact that they are supposed to have significant cash reserves I would assume the tv money does not get paid if the games are not played. Finally as I said to you earlier testing only tells you whether or not you have Covid . It doesn't protect you from getting it. There has been no debate about this trip involving an overwhelmingly amateur panel of players travelling to a city in lockdown that is the capital of a country that has declared a state of emergency. That is a damning indictment of Irish rugby journalists in particular and Irish sports journalists in general.

Greengrass (National) - 22/10/2020 16:04:45

The Dubs, The Monies & The Prejudices - 5 Like(s)

Replying To jimbodub:  "Cake walk titles most of them Complete dominance and only for a push in the back would have been a very handy 5 in a row playing very few matches, and given how uncompetitive most of those were.. It's Very clear the level of opposition just weren't anywhere near good enough. A poor era. Teams playing 3 games to win an AI is ridiculous. Very large winning margins year after year. Utter dominance. Now compare that to this decade and the far superior competitive nature to the titles collected by the various winners. It's very telling that Kerry had it pretty easy. 15 games to win 4.. it took Dublin 28 to win the same amount of titles. Almost twice as difficult and zero cake walks."
I was there at all of those semi finals and finals Jimbo. That was a brilliant team. They are the best I have ever seen. As a very young team they took out Dublin's last great team prior to this great Dublin team. Like this Dublin team they had a core of great players who lasted a long time. Kerry didn't have it easy. They had to take out a Cork team in the 70s that had won an All Ireland. They went toe to toe with a Dublin team that won 3 All Irelands in 4 years. They then beat an Offaly team that also went on to win an All Ireland. Finally they twice took out a Dublin team that won an All Ireland in 1983. Remember that there was no cushion in those days. If you lost you were out. I have attended 100 All Ireland senior finals between hurling and football. I have been at every All Ireland football final since 1972 bar the 2000 replay. No All Ireland is easily won. What you have written is deeply disrespectful to a great team. I do not deny the greatness of this Dublin team nor would I ever speak in disparaging terms of their achievements. There can be no denying that Dublin have had massive financial and logistical advantages bestowed upon them by the GAA for at least twelve years. There can also be no doubt that this is helping this great team to rebuild and perpetuate itself. Look at the results of their minor and most particularly their U 20/21 teams in this decade. What worries me is that I believe that if The GAA continue to bestow these advantages upon Dublin it will lead to the decimation of the All Ireland football championship in a manner very similar to what has happened to the Leinster senior football championship. Gaelic Games are at the core of my identity as I believe they are at the core of your identity too Jimbo. Do you want to see the All Ireland championship destroyed ?

Greengrass (National) - 04/07/2019 17:57:35