Terry has the reigns for this season and i wish him and cavan every success, But i think its pretty clear throughtout the county that this must be his last year, bar winning sam, He has his favourites and that is clear since under 21 level, he had a very talented bunch of lads at under 21 but could not bring them into the senior setup ,bad man management seen , toasty,keating, givney to name but a few walk last year,Barry reilly already this year, some of these lads are county winners over the last couple of years ,sorry to say but i dont think he has the winning mentallity to enstore to the lads, Really believe this team could do with an outside manager with all ireland success behind him to get the best from these lads, as with a bit of belief and quicker discission making from the side line , we are probably alot better than what we are showing,

sendithome (Cavan) - Posts: 25 - 11/02/2016 21:42:04    1824836

He has his favourites and that is clear since under 21 level, he had a very talented bunch of lads at under 21 but could not bring them into the senior setup ,bad man management seen , toasty,keating, givney to name but a few walk last year,Barry reilly already this year, some of these lads are county winners over the last couple of years ,sorry to say but i dont think he has the winning mentallity to enstore to the lads,

sendithome (Cavan) - Posts:5 - 11/02/2016 21:42:04 1824836

Now now, you can't be saying negative things like that, the forum police will be on your case for giving an honest opinion that doesn't suit their agenda.

Ned_Stormcrow (Cavan) - Posts: 1071 - 12/02/2016 12:24:42    1824891

Ned have to agree have tried five different ways to word something and none posted getting silly now i am obviously hitting a sore point

asitis (Cavan) - Posts: 233 - 12/02/2016 15:05:54    1824942

sendithome (Cavan) - Posts:5 - 11/02/2016 21:42:04 1824836


I am not going to name names but you mentioned a player that I felt so under performed in the Ulster club match that if management were watching to see what was there for the county panel well they would have been very disappointed. The person in question I like very much but sadly is a loose cannon, ton's of ability but the type of game that was being played would not suit him at all. I will say this as the Derry game was open it would have suited him down to the ground and I feel he would have destroyed the Derry halfback line and scored easy but thats all speculation I suppose by me. Sean

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4601 - 12/02/2016 16:05:24    1824957

You talk some dung O Rinn. Are you part of the secret service? Didn't understand a word of that

Awwwwnow (Cavan) - Posts: 1050 - 12/02/2016 21:35:33    1825024

I understood it awwwnow, I suppose he should've used small words and short sentences for you.

I agree with Sean in that it's disappointing to lose 2 games but I also saw plenty to be optimistic about. That said there are no easy games in this division so we will need to continue to work hard but be a lot smarter with the ball.

fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1485 - 13/02/2016 12:07:55    1825056

Fredflint you are just full of it

Awwwwnow (Cavan) - Posts: 1050 - 13/02/2016 16:35:26    1825103

Awwwnow, a note on Fredflint,

He's more than likely trying to wind people up at this stage. Strange mindset for a "fan" to be so full of optimism when his team are losing important games and mired in a relegation battle. And he's happy about it? The mind boggles.

Ned_Stormcrow (Cavan) - Posts: 1071 - 13/02/2016 17:51:32    1825115

The Meath game will be interesting as it will show a lot where we are... It was a must win game for us last season with promotion still on but we fell flat as usual when the chips were down... I still think the games v Fermanagh..Laois..and Armagh will determine our fate in this division..Talk about promotion is folly as we are light years away from competing in Div 1... We have not got a clue how to play the blanket defence as showed v Derry...we had far too many players back but Derry could pass their way into a scoreing position with ease which should not happen... It is not just Cavan but football is now impossible to watch and is on a very slippery slope...Coaches cones and clip-boards have our game ruined possibly beyond repair...!!

Sean66 (Cavan) - Posts: 440 - 13/02/2016 18:29:33    1825125

Sean66,

The blanket defence if executed properly is easy on the eye e.g. Donegal 2012.

The problem is other teams trying (and failing) to copy that system. Yes, it's very easy to bring 14 men behind the ball, but that's only part of it. Beyond that, most teams and coaches haven't a clue. The only teams to have managed it successfully are Monaghan, Tyrone, and Donegal.

Ned_Stormcrow (Cavan) - Posts: 1071 - 14/02/2016 11:20:14    1825240

Very true Ned...but I wouldn't say it was that easy on the eye no matter who or how it is implemented..? I know Cavan can't do it so hence the sparse attendances at our home matches for the last 2/3 years... People need to get excited and enjoy what they are watching but instead are bored to tears with slow lateral play tha end up going backwards or nowhere...

Sean66 (Cavan) - Posts: 440 - 14/02/2016 13:30:26    1825261

Most coaches haven't a clue but Ned does. Can you tell us Ned what team you have successful coached. You know so much it would be a crime if some team didn't benefit. I mean you cannot accept Cavan losing any game so I expect the team you train must be unbeaten. Please share Ned.

fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1485 - 14/02/2016 13:33:18    1825262

When one reads all that is being posted you get an idea of who or what is writing.
Now managing a team is completely different than coaching a team, he set's out his stall as to what he wants from any team that he is the manager off.
To have a coach who is willing to work with your stamp is upper most for one would be flogging a dead horse going forward.
With any team the manager takes the hit and the praise for everything that happens.
Having a person like Joe McCarthy Kingscourt beside you is a must especially if you were managing at the highest level.
You don't have to be a coach but you must have a very strong idea going forward.
I would be very happy to have Joe McCarty beside me and Paul McCorry as my trainer coach.
Cavan gaels will reep this mans knowledge and ability and Anthony Forde if he can work with Paul will be very successful going forward.
The old saying too many cooks spoils the brought comes to mind.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4601 - 14/02/2016 17:01:34    1825289

Read Joe Brollys article on Cavan V Derry in Yesterdays independent. How to beat the blanket defense.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/joe-brolly-i-could-cope-with-puke-if-it-came-with-football-34451278.html

evano11 (Cavan) - Posts: 265 - 15/02/2016 11:49:05    1825441

Fredflint will hardly agree with Brolly..

Awwwwnow (Cavan) - Posts: 1050 - 15/02/2016 21:59:54    1825655

I actually do agree with him. Defensive football is not nice to watch but that is a matter for the GAA to change the rules. Teams are in the business of trying to win using whatever tactics are available to them. Defensive keeps the game tight. Same in soccer same in rugby.

fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1485 - 16/02/2016 12:31:01    1825726

Why would the Gaa need to change the rules? What rule now would stop defensive football?

Awwwwnow (Cavan) - Posts: 1050 - 16/02/2016 17:09:37    1825869

Most coaches haven't a clue but Ned does. Can you tell us Ned what team you have successful coached. You know so much it would be a crime if some team didn't benefit. I mean you cannot accept Cavan losing any game so I expect the team you train must be unbeaten. Please share Ned.

fredflint (Cavan) - Posts:602 - 14/02/2016 13:33:18 1825262



Redundant argument Fred. "If you're so great, why don't you manage the county team", essentially what you're saying is anyone with a contrary opinion to yours shouldn't be allowed a view.

I can accept Cavan losing games, of course I can, I know the limitations of the team, we're not world beaters. On the flip side I feel we are underachieving hugely. A 44% win rate on home ground in the last 5 years? Longford's is 60%. Fermanagh haven't lost at home since June 2014. Oh, and by the way, these figures came from none other than the Celt, of all things.

Ned_Stormcrow (Cavan) - Posts: 1071 - 16/02/2016 18:51:57    1825908

Well awwwnow I will go out on a limb here and assume you are serious with your question. In my opinion the rules as they stand mean only the very best teams have the ability to go less defensive and more offensive. Everyone else will be defensive and looking to counter or else they will be beaten. That's why cork and even Galway are now getting more men back. It's a race to the bottom. If we want to restore Gaa to a game of more individual duels rather than defensive systems the rule makers will need to make changes (once upon a time the pass back to keeper in soccer was outlawed so this is not unusual). All rules changes have pros and cons but I'd personally like to see a limit on consecutive hand passes, double points for score outside 35m, sin bin for professional fouls and 2v2 for kick out (as per brollys suggestion)

fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1485 - 16/02/2016 19:00:37    1825912

Fredflint so you want the ref to start counting handpasses along with everything else he has to do.. And what happens if the ref gets the count wrong and the opposition score? .. Do we go for video evidence then??And where is the 35 metre line? Is this a new line to be invented? You including club players in this? Defensive football is when players get behind the ball and break at pace! Donegal scored 2-14 playing that way in their last league game. It's knowing how to play the blanket that's the problem. Not the rules.

Awwwwnow (Cavan) - Posts: 1050 - 16/02/2016 21:41:20    1825979