We did lose the game by ourselves we should have went for points rather then goals at the end. we made lots of mistakes but i still feel big improvement from last week. My reference to the ref last night been brutal was not blaming him for our loss it was his inconsistany that got me, he made bad decisions both ways . The management and team have lots to improve on lots of areas to make change lets hope they do .

asitis (Cavan) - Posts: 233 - 07/02/2016 11:57:15    1822995

Dean, I'm feeling fine. Didn't go out last night so feeling fresh this morning. No idea if he's the best man for the job as I'm not attending. But one thing I won't do is go on a Cavan forum happy that Cavan have lost. I didn't think you could find such a person but you're a record breaker.

Skelling (USA) - Posts: 289 - 07/02/2016 12:48:51    1823007

Yes this one got away, Missed some very kickable scores and frees, we dont have a real confident free taker who can punish teams from distance , seen Barry Reilly kick 9/9 in a county final a few years ago, he is probably one of the best in ulster on a good day , where did he go? is he still on the panel? the lines man was poor, and we didnt get some important discissons,Givney, flanagan and keating struggled, mackey was for long periods in defence, he needs to be our link man and loves going forward,g mac and mossy done well as did young argue when he came on , we won some kickouts which is encouraging, but our dicisson making in the last 10 mins was very poor, points were there for the taking, but we persisted to try for the big dog and came away with nothing, if we had the experience of conor mcmanus in the last 10 mins we would have gotten over the line, going forward we still seem lost of where our inside forwards should be or not enought supporting runners when we run into trouble, on a brighter note i guess much stronger team than last year, returnees need more game time for sure, we really need a win to get some confidence and see out games, A dry day out playing with the shackles off and a win would be what the doctor ordered for the team

sendithome (Cavan) - Posts: 25 - 07/02/2016 13:24:46    1823014

Ii just want to say to the. Lads hard luck last night, but we're after playing the 2 best teams in div 2,points to co.e

blueman1903 (Cavan) - Posts: 885 - 07/02/2016 13:33:59    1823019

To slow in letting the ball into the full forward line.

On a couple of occasions last night the two lads inside made good runs when Martin Reilly was coming up the field with the ball he looked up and for some reason instead of letting it in took another solo and ended up going side ways.

We would have one last night if a certain individual had off shown a bit of composure in attack instead of giving away the ball time after time.

RHF (Cavan) - Posts: 878 - 07/02/2016 13:34:22    1823020

Skelling...I can't find any post where I said I was happy we lost...I'm just pointing to the fact that if we had the right man in charge, we would win more.

deanmartin (Cavan) - Posts: 643 - 07/02/2016 14:08:12    1823031

Good to get the view from a Monaghan neutral, we play a system that doesn't work, and well said Goonie, the majority of our best players are being swallowed up by it

deanmartin (Cavan) - Posts: 643 - 07/02/2016 14:10:59    1823032

Hard luck to the lads last night- it was a brave effort, a very hard fought game played in very tough conditions. There was no lack of effort from our lads but at times the pace of the game had some of our players struggling. Lacked a bit of composure and that extra half yard that hopefully will come with a bit more game time. Having said that, Derry at times looked very sleek and are as good a league team as I've seen play in Breffni in a very long time. Used the ball very well, took their goal clinically, tackled very well and showed great discipline throughout but especially in last 5 minutes. We on the other hand, having done so well to get back in a game that at one stage looked to be well out of our grasp, let the blood rush to our heads in the last 5 and should have at least made sure of an equaliser.
Table makes grim reading at the moment, 0 points from 2, but we've showed enough to suggest we can stay in this Division. After 2 defeats last year we rallied well and picked up points to secure our status, now we have to repeat. A 3 week break before we play Meath in Navan. It's a game we have to get something from.

Hardtimes (Cavan) - Posts: 1056 - 07/02/2016 14:18:21    1823034

Curious observer here, Tell us dean, because you are great to point out the wrongs, if u were made manager of the senior team in the morning, what would u change ? What would be your strongest 15, if every player in the county gave u 100% commitment ? What style would u adapt ? I'm sure lots on here would love answers to these 3 questions. No politicians answers now, 3 simple questions so 3 simple answers !!

finea3 (Longford) - Posts: 63 - 07/02/2016 14:42:03    1823040

Hard luck last night lads, we have prob the 2 best teams played in div two, so points p. The way

blueman1903 (Cavan) - Posts: 885 - 07/02/2016 15:00:35    1823045

We did a lot of fumbling in possession, poor passing and poor kicking, a lot of it going to the keeper's hands. We need to work on this.
Apart from that we had a good appetite for the game, good energy and tackling.
The management need to recognise when a player needs to be replaced too.
Another game we could and should have won with better decisions from the sideline.

Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 07/02/2016 15:16:30    1823048

True words Goonie.

Cluichepeil (Cavan) - Posts: 57 - 07/02/2016 15:27:29    1823051

People can say what they like about Martin Reilly but anyone at game last night can see he can be a part of our failure attacking. He is a great footballer but time and time again he will not deliver the ball into space when it is on, head down soloing and soloing and eventually turning backwards and giving the opposition time to filter back.

BootIt (Cavan) - Posts: 136 - 07/02/2016 15:51:19    1823060

Yes Givney Keating need game time, but surely not if its going to cost us the games! Decisions are slow from the sideline. Barry won't come back because of the style of play and the treatment he got last year.

Cluichepeil (Cavan) - Posts: 57 - 07/02/2016 15:53:32    1823064

Cavan need to change the system it's not working too defensive. I would prefer if we lost having a go rather than waiting to be beaten

cavanchamps (Cavan) - Posts: 38 - 07/02/2016 15:55:32    1823066

Dean, I didn't say that you said you were happy but your post seems very chirpy.

But while you're pulling people up on what they're saying could you show me where I said that Terry Hyland was the man for the job? Yet another thing to add to the list of fantasies you come out with.

Skelling (USA) - Posts: 289 - 07/02/2016 15:59:31    1823071

Finea3...Its not rocket science, we've played with 2 sweepers and a blanket defence and it hasn't worked, Martin Reilly wasted in defence, I'd play him as a 3rd midfielder, with one of the other 1/2 forwards as a sweeper, leaving 4 forwards inside, quick fast ball in with support from runners

deanmartin (Cavan) - Posts: 643 - 07/02/2016 17:06:51    1823103

Skelling...so you're admitting that Terry isn't the best man for the job?

deanmartin (Cavan) - Posts: 643 - 07/02/2016 17:14:45    1823111

shame as he had a class left foot and could spray passes around,part of a decent panel with faulker, dillon and barry tully who pushed forward, maybe terry will have challange matches set up durning the break for getting players match fit, martin reilly covered every inch of the park and played well, but again dosnt seem to be a good enough understanding with the forward line as to when and where to deliver the ball before getting over run , we look nervous going forward,but hopefully with a win under our belts they will grow in confidence, tyrone and derry are no push overs but theyre behind us now ,next stop navan

sendithome (Cavan) - Posts: 25 - 07/02/2016 17:33:09    1823123

Dean, the difference between you and I is that I can see both the good and bad in things. Terry Hyland has gone with a system of play that he picked when he first got the job. I'm guessing, but I'd say he looked at the players at his disposal and picked the system accordingly. The system worked and there wasn't a peep out of anyone about the style when we got to the quarter finals in 2013. 2014 was a terrible year and all of a sudden it's the system and the manager's fault. In 2015 with the introduction of McHale they tried to expand their style with the result, ironically, of being too open at the back. A good performance against Monaghan resulted in the narrowest of defeats due mainly, in my opinion, to Monaghan having a stronger and more experienced bench and the missing of a late free with Martin Reilly having being black-carded. On such things hang a game but once the likes of you decide you don't like a man then such details are conveniently left out of any discussion. We then lost to Roscommon with a number of players missing and a man less for half the game.

I think Terry has gone far enough. I was happy to let him have this year in the absence of any obvious replacement. He was given the term and he's entitled to see it out. I think Cavan will stay in Division 2 and I think they'll beat Armagh. After that it's hard to tell.

So Dean, there's my opinion. Not black or white but some lovely shades of grey.

Skelling (USA) - Posts: 289 - 07/02/2016 18:02:39    1823142