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Round Robin Group 2 • Saturday 18 May 97Cavans (Cavan) - Posts: 340 - 14/05/2024 12:13:05 2544687 Link 0 |
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Gunner on Ryan O'Donoghue, NO. Gunner to take AOS, and BOC to take ROD.
i.am.legend (UK) - Posts: 43 - 15/05/2024 10:05:46 2544863 Link 0 |
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Are we gonna set up a new thread every time a new match comes? Fyi there's a Senior one there already Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2422 - 15/05/2024 12:47:18 2544906 Link 0 |
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Actually that isn't true we are focused on the cavan game as we know we'll we never know what mayo team turns up on the day a lot are actually saying it could be a close game.
S1234 (Mayo) - Posts: 53 - 16/05/2024 13:07:01 2545095 Link 0 |
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Close is right, ye are definitely in with a shout
Calving4Sam (Cavan) - Posts: 83 - 16/05/2024 13:29:40 2545100 Link 0 |
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We definetly are not underestimating ye anyways and I'm sure we will name our strongest team certainly no one is saying it'll be a walk over by us not in mayo anyway.
S1234 (Mayo) - Posts: 53 - 16/05/2024 18:10:22 2545172 Link 0 |
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Team is named. Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2422 - 17/05/2024 12:32:00 2545250 Link 0 |
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Unfortunately, can't say this wasn't unexpected when we went with such a negative line up. BigEZ (Cavan) - Posts: 28 - 18/05/2024 18:38:25 2545437 Link 0 |
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Can't be expected to beat or compete with these type of teams after wasting 3 years playing basement football….simple. Dublin will beat us by whatever they decide on and Roscommon will fancy their chances too I'd imagine…!!! ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 2132 - 19/05/2024 12:14:20 2545547 Link 0 |
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Is Caoimhin Mcgovern still on the panel? Although he needs to be given as much time as required to get up to speed after his illness, we could do with him at the moment. He's probably the best candidate we have in the medium term, bar Paddy Lynch, to become a focal point of out attacking play. Hopefully, we will see him back and fully fit in a Cavan Jersey. Caoimhin Reilly is a talented forward but seems to suffer from frequent injuries. Any word on Conor Smith this year? KingdomofBreifne (Cavan) - Posts: 112 - 19/05/2024 13:18:40 2545562 Link 0 |
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Yea I agree, playing a lower standard of football certainly doesn't help. I was more disappointed that we didn't have a go. We have been waiting 3 years for an opportunity to play in the all Ireland series and our approach was damage limitation. Losing by 9 with such a negative team selection was dreadful. Mayo never got out of second gear. I'm not expecting us to win the all Ireland, far from it, but I don't see us improving with the current approach. It's a number of years now since we were complaining about Terry hyland and the teams defensive approach, but what we seen at the weekend was worse. One natural forward in the line up, team dominated by defenders and we weren't set up well enough to even stay in the game for 15 minutes. With Hyland we were at the very least difficult to beat. On another note, Reilly warmed up for the last few games-he certainly has had injury problems over the years, which is a shame as he was exceptional a few years ago when he had a run of games. I've watched a lot of club football over the last number of years and he's still as good as I've seen in the county. If he scored 10 against Cork (good form by any account) is fit and still didn't get some game time... Again, the team selection is baffling. Same applies for Cormac Reilly and Cian Madden. If we want to improve these are the days we need to play these young lads. James Smith was wasted playing inside. He is a midfielder in my eyes. We would have benefitted from his presence around the middle of the park when we couldn't get our hands on the ball. On the evidence of this so far this year, I can't see anything but 3 loses from the all Ireland series. BigEZ (Cavan) - Posts: 28 - 19/05/2024 17:39:44 2545623 Link 0 |
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Would be great to see McGovern back in a Cavan jersey. Definitely a man with potential. I'm assuming Conor Smith just didn't go in this year, but could be wrong on that. It's a big commitment for any young lad these days!
BigEZ (Cavan) - Posts: 28 - 19/05/2024 17:45:41 2545625 Link 0 |
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This was exactly what a number of Mayo fans noted to me after the game. They were expecting Cavan as an Ulster team to come down to Csstlebar and be well set up and make it really difficult for them all afternoon. They could not get over how easy it was in the end. I just don't understand playing with that many defenders but still conceding 20 points. We had no defensive or attacking plans from what I could see. Every time we got in the scoring zone Mayo were tackling like dogs to make sure we wouldn't get a shot off. The difference between the teams was frightening. asdfg (Cavan) - Posts: 320 - 20/05/2024 08:30:02 2545731 Link 1 |
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There is a huge lack of belief in the complete Cavan set up from under age to senior. Also, a huge gulf in quality coaching in our under age set up. When you here what was going on with the U 20s and then you look at Tyrone U 20s yesterday, wow, we are light years behind.
countrytool (Cavan) - Posts: 16 - 20/05/2024 09:52:22 2545755 Link 0 |
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Agree totally….. I said it at the time and I will say it again now…. The way our U-21 team that won 4 Ulster titles in a row would come back to haunt us in years to come and unfortunately I was proved right… Under age teams should be used to develop and nurture players on and to try and develop good forwards but instead we went the win at all costs route to win 4 titles that in the main stream of things mean very little…. As I mentioned previously Tyrone got far more out of loosing 2 of those finals than we got out of winning 4…. We all remember the diabolical set up we had when we played Dublin in one of those semi finals…. even the referee turned against us the sort of dross we were playing.. Unfortunately nothing has changed… on the eve of our trip to play Derry in this season's U-20 knockout stage management discussed how they were going to play ultra defensive….. Heaven help us…! ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 2132 - 20/05/2024 13:17:41 2545854 Link 0 |
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Agree totally….. I said it at the time and I will say it again now…. The way our U-21 team that won 4 Ulster titles in a row would come back to haunt us in years to come and unfortunately I was proved right… Under age teams should be used to develop and nurture players on and to try and develop good forwards but instead we went the win at all costs route to win 4 titles that in the main stream of things mean very little…. As I mentioned previously Tyrone got far more out of loosing 2 of those finals than we got out of winning 4…. We all remember the diabolical set up we had when we played Dublin in one of those semi finals…. even the referee turned against us the sort of dross we were playing.. Unfortunately nothing has changed… on the eve of our trip to play Derry in this season's U-20 knockout stage management discussed how they were going to play ultra defensive….. Heaven help us…! RHF (Cavan) - Posts: 862 - 20/05/2024 14:02:50 2545866 Link 0 |
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Yeh, losing repeatedly and failing to win a title ever since at this grade is much better than winning 4 in a row. And did you ever go back and have a look at the Dublin team that beat us. Another absolutely bizarre take.
fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1484 - 20/05/2024 15:13:54 2545898 Link 0 |
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You are totally missing the point for some reason…. We didn't get one decent scoring forward ( apart from McKiernan who played midfield a good bit at U-21 ) out of all 4 wins because of the horrible negative football we were playing… Tyrone got very good forwards even though they lost a couple of Finals… Nobody is suggesting that your better failing repeatedly at under age level but it should be a stage for young players to express themselves and enjoy playing the game… not put in a straight jacket from day one at County level… A prominent Kerry GAA man told me a few years ago that none of their under age managers are put under any pressure to win silverware but they are expected to develop and encourage young players in the proper way to play the game and hopefully unearth a few that would go on to play at senior level…and if they do win something along the way it's a nice added bonus… I couldn't care less who was on that Dublin team that beat us but the way we set up to play that day was atrocious… Let young lads go out and play the game with enthusiasm and enjoyment and you never know what gem you might pick up… you certainly won't unearth any future stars by playing ultra defensive football at minor and U-20 level… By the way this is not just a Cavan thing but why follow others like sheep….!!!
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 2132 - 20/05/2024 17:15:53 2545944 Link 0 |
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you should be happy with the under age set ups at the moment then as there is no defensive set up at all in place and players including forwards also seem to have great freedom to play with very little instruction on what to do. It is surely only a matter of time until brilliant forwards who can beat fermanagh and antrim start to emerge again with this new found freedom.
breffnibluewhite (Cavan) - Posts: 460 - 21/05/2024 12:23:33 2546123 Link 0 |
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You are totally missing the point for some reason…. We didn't get one decent scoring forward ( apart from McKiernan who played midfield a good bit at U-21 ) out of all 4 wins because of the horrible negative football we were playing… Tyrone got very good forwards even though they lost a couple of Finals… Nobody is suggesting that your better failing repeatedly at under age level but it should be a stage for young players to express themselves and enjoy playing the game… not put in a straight jacket from day one at County level… A prominent Kerry GAA man told me a few years ago that none of their under age managers are put under any pressure to win silverware but they are expected to develop and encourage young players in the proper way to play the game and hopefully unearth a few that would go on to play at senior level…and if they do win something along the way it's a nice added bonus… I couldn't care less who was on that Dublin team that beat us but the way we set up to play that day was atrocious… Let young lads go out and play the game with enthusiasm and enjoyment and you never know what gem you might pick up… you certainly won't unearth any future stars by playing ultra defensive football at minor and U-20 level… By the way this is not just a Cavan thing but why follow others like sheep….!!! ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1986 - 20/05/2024 17:15:53 We are not producing out and out forwards and it's nothing to do with what is happening at U20 level. There are several lads who are very good club forwards but don't have the cutting edge at county level whether it's a lack of aggression or slight lack of pace they have had several chances but haven't taken it. Since 1997 the only forwards that i can think off that were consistent and guaranteed a few scores from play from the full forward line were; Johnston Jason Reilly Larry Reilly Mickey Graham Others have come and gone like Keating, Dunne and Tomsmiths find Givney(more a midfielder) but were not consistent and drifted on and off the panel. Hopefully Paddy Lynch will be back fully fit next year and continue on the trajectory that he has been on and Darragh Lovett can continue his development and a few younger lads come through as they will be needed. RHF (Cavan) - Posts: 862 - 21/05/2024 12:29:07 2546128 Link 0 |