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Cavan V Tyrone

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The game against Monaghan should be of benefits going in against Tyrone. They will have had a 4 week break from the league. Hopefully Jason McLaughlin is back and maybe Clarke. McVeety will be out for a longer period. About time Cavan got one over Tyrone. They looked porous in defence during the league but will likely be more solo in championship. McNamee and Sudden key players for a long time have retired which have weakened them along with a few players opting off the panel

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2825 - 10/04/2024 12:25:52    2537102

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Definitely Tyrone can be beat, this is best chance to do a job on them in a few years. We need a 70+ min performance. Match ups need to be right. Gunner on the good Canavan, Brian O Connell or McLoughlin on McCurry, Killian Clarke if he's fit to do a spoiler role in midfield. I have no doubt Ray will have his homework done

facer4home (Cavan) - Posts: 159 - 10/04/2024 13:33:58    2537127

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Replying To facer4home:  "Definitely Tyrone can be beat, this is best chance to do a job on them in a few years. We need a 70+ min performance. Match ups need to be right. Gunner on the good Canavan, Brian O Connell or McLoughlin on McCurry, Killian Clarke if he's fit to do a spoiler role in midfield. I have no doubt Ray will have his homework done"
I would have McLoughlin on Canavan and O'Connell on McCurry

BreffniGael (Cavan) - Posts: 46 - 10/04/2024 15:44:00    2537172

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Killian Brady would probably pick up Cathal Mcshane if he starts. McShane hampered by injuries for the past few years ,but suppose to be getting back to fitness. He gives them a different dimension alongside 2 smaller forwards in McCurry and Canavan. Mattie Donnelly could play inside either

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2825 - 10/04/2024 16:37:18    2537183

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If we could keep McCurry and Canavan quiet it would go a long way to getting a good result…. It won't be an easy task as they are serious operators..

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3035 - 10/04/2024 18:35:44    2537196

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Replying To BreffniGael:  "I would have McLoughlin on Canavan and O'Connell on McCurry"
I'd agree. Gunner hasn't the pace for either of them. He has the physicality for this game so he'll be needed but they're our best 2 man-markers.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5196 - 10/04/2024 18:56:55    2537198

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It's important that we curb our expectations heading into this match as Tyrone are a massive step up in quality than a terribly disappointing Monaghan team… I hope we play with the same bravery as we did last week and see where that brings us.. In previous meetings with Tyrone we were beaten long before the ball was even thrown in mostly because of the negative mindset imposed on the team by management… I would rather lose the match being brave than go all defensive and negative and end up looking anyway which we seemed to do in recent years…

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3035 - 11/04/2024 10:11:52    2537290

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "It's important that we curb our expectations heading into this match as Tyrone are a massive step up in quality than a terribly disappointing Monaghan team… I hope we play with the same bravery as we did last week and see where that brings us.. In previous meetings with Tyrone we were beaten long before the ball was even thrown in mostly because of the negative mindset imposed on the team by management… I would rather lose the match being brave than go all defensive and negative and end up looking anyway which we seemed to do in recent years…"
The Stephen O'Neill factor is very interesting here, will he be able to help them deal with the players mindblock with Tyrone?

BreffniGael (Cavan) - Posts: 46 - 11/04/2024 13:37:27    2537332

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It's time to take a big scalp and this game is an opportunity to do that. Nothing to lose.

In the past 7 seasons, in ulster, all ireland championship, and qualifiers, the worst team we have lost to is Armagh. All others who have beaten us were top 5 sides (at time of playing them).

But on the win side, Donegal 2020 are the only top 5 side we've beaten. 3 wins v Monaghan in that time is notable, but we need another proper scalp.

Not sure I'd call Tyrone top 5, but I think I would, just. If naming likely All Ireland winners, I'd have them 4th behind Dubs, Kerry, Derry. And while they may or may not be better than Galway or Mayo, they know how to get it done at the business end of the championship. Would be a huge win.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5196 - 11/04/2024 23:08:11    2537439

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I think there is a top 3 ,and after that it's up in the air. Tyrone won the All Ireland in 21 and were in the final in 18. This isn't a vintage Tyrone team but would be a big win nonetheless. Fergal Logan the joint manager has been off through illness which has probably affected them a bit too.

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2825 - 12/04/2024 09:11:21    2537455

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Never got to post after last weekend but what a win. Good for the soul and despite all the negative commentary about crowds, I thought there was a championship feel to it with good banter in the stand and of course the sunshine always helps. I thought Smith, Faulkner and Lynch were outstanding. Overall, I didn't think we played at our best which is a positive. Still some poor unforced errors which can be very frustrating. You feel at times lads just need to settle on the ball and keep their full concentration and composure, as alot of the errors are under no pressure.

Tyrone will be a tough test and have been waiting for this game for a while now. I watched Westmeath go toe to toe with them in Breffni last summer in a very enjoyable game. The difference that day was Canavan, even though Kevin Maguire did a brilliant job on him, one-on-one for the most part. Tyrone went on to be destroyed by Kerry in Croker. So it appears Tyrone have slipped back since 2021. I would rank Derry, Armagh and Donegal ahead of them at present.

Long term forecast is looking good and hopefully we will get a good atmosphere in Breffni. Met a fair few people before the Monaghan game who didn't even realise the game was on so important that the fair weather fans are encouraged to get into this one. Interestingly, nobody will give us a chance but had it been Monaghan, it would be classed as something close to a 50 50 game. How have Monaghan been able to get the better of Tyrone so often while we have struggled so badly against them? Is it psychological or down to style of play

97Cavans (Cavan) - Posts: 378 - 16/04/2024 15:28:43    2538362

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Team announced. Exact same 15 as 2 weeks ago. Clarke and McLoughlin to the bench

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2450 - 18/04/2024 22:06:22    2538936

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How's everyone feeling for Sunday? I dunno, we always have to be wary of Tyrone and our recent record, but I'm feeling cautiously optimistic. Looking at the teams, we look settled enough, strong options from the bench (although I expect Clarke to start, and possibly McLoughlin too) while they have likes of Harte, Kilpatrick and others missing, and have 7 new starts, 5 of those being debuts in Championship. Jeez folks, if we're ever to catch them it is now

We've a terrible record against them, but if we break it down we see a trend. They thrash us in qualifiers, first day out and such games. But when we have a win under our belts we've ran them close. In 2001 Ulster final, and draws in 2005 and 2016 when we met them we put it up to them we were always coming off the back of good results with confidence. Yes, I know we still didn't win, and those replays were blow outs, but I think coming off a good result we can put it up to them.

We've had a game, a great win vs our dear neighbours, and that always charges us up a bit and gives confidence. They've been off for a month and playing challenges. Yes it's a long time back, but they've never had a Championship win v us in Breffni, and seems their support is not travelling much and we'll have most of the support. We've good man markers to try and take out their main men, I don't see any reason we can't get something from this. And we need to, best chance to beat this hoodoo. Best of luck lads, Sunday meant to be a good day, so go well

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2450 - 19/04/2024 09:56:21    2538969

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Replying To Loughduff Lad:  "How's everyone feeling for Sunday? I dunno, we always have to be wary of Tyrone and our recent record, but I'm feeling cautiously optimistic. Looking at the teams, we look settled enough, strong options from the bench (although I expect Clarke to start, and possibly McLoughlin too) while they have likes of Harte, Kilpatrick and others missing, and have 7 new starts, 5 of those being debuts in Championship. Jeez folks, if we're ever to catch them it is now

We've a terrible record against them, but if we break it down we see a trend. They thrash us in qualifiers, first day out and such games. But when we have a win under our belts we've ran them close. In 2001 Ulster final, and draws in 2005 and 2016 when we met them we put it up to them we were always coming off the back of good results with confidence. Yes, I know we still didn't win, and those replays were blow outs, but I think coming off a good result we can put it up to them.

We've had a game, a great win vs our dear neighbours, and that always charges us up a bit and gives confidence. They've been off for a month and playing challenges. Yes it's a long time back, but they've never had a Championship win v us in Breffni, and seems their support is not travelling much and we'll have most of the support. We've good man markers to try and take out their main men, I don't see any reason we can't get something from this. And we need to, best chance to beat this hoodoo. Best of luck lads, Sunday meant to be a good day, so go well"
I am feeling good about Sunday confidence up , dry pitch, Clarke and McLaughlin on 26 man squad, hopefully a good Cavan support comes out which I think will.

blueman1903 (Cavan) - Posts: 885 - 19/04/2024 11:14:28    2538991

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A positive for Sunday is that we have a game in the Championship behind us and they might take a bit of time to get up to speed…Our recent home record is deplorable but how ironic it would be to end it against a team we haven't beaten ( Championship ) for 41 years…. Tyrone will be a huge step up in quality from Monaghan who were woeful but it's worth remembering they led with 70 minutes played which is a worry .. the first half of that game was as poor in quality of a county game I have ever been at ( conditions may have played some part ) and any sort of a repeat of that by us on Sunday will mean lights out by the short whistle… We can rattle them but it must be all out from the start and we will surely need 2/3 goals again like the last game and hopefully they will come easier to us now that we discovered the nack … Roll on Sunday and hopefully a good fighting performance with nothing left behind… that's all anyone can ask….!!!

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3035 - 19/04/2024 13:20:05    2539027

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Tyrone team looks ordinary enough on paper. A good opportunity for Cavan, the best in fact for a long time v Tyrone.

Eddie the Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 1121 - 19/04/2024 15:00:42    2539054

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Will Cavan realistically keep it below 10 points?

wishfulthinkin (Cavan) - Posts: 1720 - 19/04/2024 18:38:58    2539107

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Replying To wishfulthinkin:  "Will Cavan realistically keep it below 10 points?"
They'll have to keep Canavan and McCurry quiet otherwise that's what it could be

BreffniGael (Cavan) - Posts: 46 - 19/04/2024 22:15:05    2539133

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Replying To wishfulthinkin:  "Will Cavan realistically keep it below 10 points?"
They will surely keep it a bit tighter than that… Tyrone have 5/6 debutants so a big test for them.. Bookies have it as a 2pt game and as we all know they don't make too many mistakes

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3035 - 20/04/2024 07:58:38    2539162

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Wide open for u boys now best the luck tomorrow

Lad79 (Monaghan) - Posts: 57 - 20/04/2024 20:54:08    2539338

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