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Keoghan played really well I thought and was getting the better of Lynch who was trying to show for the ball but it all seemed so congested. The early corner forward change was a little bit knee jerk due the game plan not panning out but it's the easiest change to make traditionally. Makes you feel you've done something without really affecting the game out the field too much.

Pity that's the first game I got to see this year. The pitch made it very difficult and I don't think Cavan adapted their game in the first half accordingly. It's great to see them trying to play long forward passes into the forward line but it probably wasn't the night for it when maybe 4 out of 5 balls in were yielding nothing. But with so many intercepted passes and hops going astray out the field it wasn't evident we'd have garnered much more success trying to hand pass our way either. Wides galore too with Meath responsible for some poor ones. I think the commentary didn't account enough for how heavy the pitch was. Really had to dig it out the results and they did which is great. In Sam this year and looking up. No provincial trapdoor so will take the pressure off Ulster a little bit too.

I bemoan Cavan usually getting the crappy end of the stick with home versus away fixtures in the league but I haven't felt for a long time that Cavan teams like Breffni. Armagh will be a decent game in the Athletics Grounds and I'm excited for it.

Bozo (Cavan) - Posts: 58 - 04/03/2024 10:19:13    2529636

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been very optimistic here ...is the final league placings based on head to head or score difference

breffnibhoy (Cavan) - Posts: 23 - 04/03/2024 11:25:35    2529668

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been very optimistic here ...is the final league placings based on head to head or score difference

breffnibhoy (Cavan) - Posts: 23 - 04/03/2024 11:57:26    2529678

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Replying To cavanman47:  "Yeah, it would take a strange set of results for us not to be in Sam. (Both in the last 2 league games and in championship)

It looks currently like all Div 2 teams will be in it, other than the 2 relegated. So top 14 in the league plus leinster and munster finalist.
Can't see Connacht championship changing that, the top 3 are way ahead of the rest.
In Ulster, something like Fermanagh or Down upsetting Armagh would cut 1 league place off (3rd bottom of division 2).

In short it ain't happening. So pressure is off. 2 wins gets us promotion. Sole focus."
Yep, with us on 7, it would take extreme circumstances for us to even finish 6th. Most likely with results elsewhere and who the ones below us play (and as they play each other at times too) we likely even finish 4th if we even lose our last 2 games. So yes, into Sam and great to see.

6th might find it tough to get in. Meath being unable to be relegated helps a little. And Clare maybe not getting promoted muddles things a bit too. With Meath guaranteed in, Clare essentially in too with their Munster semi draw, and potentially Kildare or Louth (if both relegated) or Westmeath (if promoted) coming through the other side of Dublin in Leinster, then maybe 6th might miss out like Meath did last year.

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2450 - 04/03/2024 11:59:04    2529681

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Replying To breffnibhoy:  "been very optimistic here ...is the final league placings based on head to head or score difference"
If 2 teams are level, then head to head. If more than 2 teams then points difference

It's not just optimism. We essentially can't go lower than 5th. 6th is a very very outside possibility that needs all the bottom teams to win all their games, and for the top teams (bar us) to lose all theirs, and even at that we have all of them (bar fermanagh) on head to head. So that's not happening. We're in Sam

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2450 - 04/03/2024 12:02:04    2529682

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Replying To Loughduff Lad:  "If 2 teams are level, then head to head. If more than 2 teams then points difference

It's not just optimism. We essentially can't go lower than 5th. 6th is a very very outside possibility that needs all the bottom teams to win all their games, and for the top teams (bar us) to lose all theirs, and even at that we have all of them (bar fermanagh) on head to head. So that's not happening. We're in Sam"
yes goodstuff ..and if we beat armagh we have chance of promotion

breffnibhoy (Cavan) - Posts: 23 - 04/03/2024 14:03:12    2529729

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Replying To Loughduff Lad:  "Yep, with us on 7, it would take extreme circumstances for us to even finish 6th. Most likely with results elsewhere and who the ones below us play (and as they play each other at times too) we likely even finish 4th if we even lose our last 2 games. So yes, into Sam and great to see.

6th might find it tough to get in. Meath being unable to be relegated helps a little. And Clare maybe not getting promoted muddles things a bit too. With Meath guaranteed in, Clare essentially in too with their Munster semi draw, and potentially Kildare or Louth (if both relegated) or Westmeath (if promoted) coming through the other side of Dublin in Leinster, then maybe 6th might miss out like Meath did last year."
For 6th to miss out, it takes an additional 'weaker' team to make provincial final along with one each from Munster and Leinster.

Simply can't see that happening out West. Only Armagh (or Kerry or Dublin!!) being beaten takes 6th place out of Sam.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5194 - 04/03/2024 14:26:20    2529732

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Replying To cavanman47:  "For 6th to miss out, it takes an additional 'weaker' team to make provincial final along with one each from Munster and Leinster.

Simply can't see that happening out West. Only Armagh (or Kerry or Dublin!!) being beaten takes 6th place out of Sam."
Yeah I think so alright. Haven't looked in detail, but that seems right. Essentially means we are in Sam regardless now and that's great news all round

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2450 - 04/03/2024 14:41:08    2529737

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Replying To Loughduff Lad:  "Yeah I think so alright. Haven't looked in detail, but that seems right. Essentially means we are in Sam regardless now and that's great news all round"
It is indeed.

A free crack at Ulster with 3 games in the summer (minimum) to look forward to.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5194 - 04/03/2024 15:54:51    2529759

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Replying To FoolsGold:  "Cavan were too slow building up the ball and when they did give it was poor quality passing. Brady wasn't that bad. Caoimhin Reilly came on and taken off. He needs to be careful not to ruin players confidence."
Yes, Reilly looks like a man low on confidence to me. Taken off at half time vs Louth with 2 points to his name (1 mark and 1 from play) I had assumed he was injured.He looked hesitant taking on a shot in the first half that I would have expected him to knock over. Thought it was very hash taking him of again, he had been showing well and was the victim of a few poor balls into the forward line and a poor ref decision on a mark. Taking Brady off after 20 minutes won't do his confidence any good either (also thought this was harsh). As a county that don't have many free scoring forwards from play I hope their confidence isn't affected. I feel it's one position that confidence really effects level of play. Overall thought we were very lucky to escape with a point.

BigEZ (Cavan) - Posts: 28 - 04/03/2024 19:09:24    2529811

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We were luck enough to get the draw Saturday night… Our forwards are simply not good enough at this level… 11pts is a very poor return.. Osin Brady has dropped of a lot since he shot the lights out in a McKenna Cup match.. but I think he should stick with him as he has shown he can score regularly.. I can't see us getting anything out of our trip to Armagh to be honest… We are over reliant on Paddy Lynch and Armagh will know that too… Once we are safe in Division 2 that's all that really matters…

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3029 - 05/03/2024 10:18:35    2529896

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I think both teams will be disappointed with their performance. Too many mistakes and unforced errors. Watched the game back (by the way it has been uploaded on YouTube). Meath look like they have the bones of a good team. They look well conditioned. Ray is probably still trying to find his best team. It is still only the league so lots of football to play. I think we did well to claw it back and ultimately the draw is all we needed to set up a huge clash now with Armagh on the 16th. A win and we go ahead of them on head to head provided it remains a two way tie.

97Cavans (Cavan) - Posts: 377 - 05/03/2024 14:35:34    2529937

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Big shout out to the hurlers who had a fantastic win today over Armagh who led by 7pts at HT… Well done…

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3029 - 09/03/2024 19:04:58    2530500

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Great result for the hurlers yesterday. Showing they can compete at the level after going up a division. U20 hurlers just beat Fermanagh today too, so things are looking good for hurling and long may it continue to grow

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2450 - 10/03/2024 16:10:12    2530593

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So Armagh week. How we feeling folks? I'm liking how this game has worked out. It's about as big a League game as you'll get. Not Championship level, but good preparation for it. It's all on the line for both sides. Win and you essentially get promotion, so it's huge. And going away to a good team, who'll have a big crowd, in a venue that's nice and we have good memories of. If I were Galligan, I'd be using this as a Championship match dry run on the way he'd build up to Monaghan. Anything that might go wrong, he can adjust for 3 weeks later.

Also, anyone any word on injuries? Conor Brady would be further down the line and fit for game time. You'd hope McVeety and Oisin Kiernan are near ready to go too.

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2450 - 11/03/2024 11:31:24    2530718

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Replying To Loughduff Lad:  "So Armagh week. How we feeling folks? I'm liking how this game has worked out. It's about as big a League game as you'll get. Not Championship level, but good preparation for it. It's all on the line for both sides. Win and you essentially get promotion, so it's huge. And going away to a good team, who'll have a big crowd, in a venue that's nice and we have good memories of. If I were Galligan, I'd be using this as a Championship match dry run on the way he'd build up to Monaghan. Anything that might go wrong, he can adjust for 3 weeks later.

Also, anyone any word on injuries? Conor Brady would be further down the line and fit for game time. You'd hope McVeety and Oisin Kiernan are near ready to go too."
I think we're good enough to go there a win. Though, it'll take a huge effort to do so. We've the defenders to battle with their attacking men. I'd expect Killian Brady vs O Neill to be a battle royale. Up front, we've plenty of threats ourselves but could do with Mcvitty back in there. I'm hoping for a big game from one or both Maddens too. Midfield is an area where I am concerned. We're very hit and miss there. We need a huge game from James Smith, Faulkner, or whoever Marshalls this area for us. I'm quietly confident all the same.

KingdomofBreifne (Cavan) - Posts: 152 - 11/03/2024 15:48:14    2530767

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This is a massive game. Not writing off Fermanagh by any means, but it's essentially a promotion opportunity. Make Division 1 and guarantee ourselves Sam football for the next 2 years. Keep some of the older lads interested next year and give the younger lads top level championship football for a minimum of 2 years.
I think Division 2 will be tougher next year than this also.

Would agree that it would be good to see Conor Brady and McVeety back in, if fit. I'd like to see the full back line given more protection. If Armagh get the chances we gave to Meath, they win this by 10 points. We'll need to play well for 70+ mins. . Something we have yet to do this year.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5194 - 12/03/2024 10:17:53    2530851

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Hopefully we put in a good performance but I just can't see us beating Armagh up there… Do we really need to be getting promoted anyway…? I think 3/4 years in a competitive Division 2 would serve us much better than going up .. struggling and most likely coming back down again…. I would take a good performance and a win v Fermanagh in the last game and keep our place safely in Division 2….!

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3029 - 12/03/2024 10:29:58    2530854

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Imagine not wanting to get promoted, playing the best teams, and guaranteeing Sam for at least 2 years...

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2450 - 12/03/2024 11:58:12    2530882

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Replying To cavanman47:  "This is a massive game. Not writing off Fermanagh by any means, but it's essentially a promotion opportunity. Make Division 1 and guarantee ourselves Sam football for the next 2 years. Keep some of the older lads interested next year and give the younger lads top level championship football for a minimum of 2 years.
I think Division 2 will be tougher next year than this also.

Would agree that it would be good to see Conor Brady and McVeety back in, if fit. I'd like to see the full back line given more protection. If Armagh get the chances we gave to Meath, they win this by 10 points. We'll need to play well for 70+ mins. . Something we have yet to do this year."
Yeah fully agree. Can't look past Fermanagh week after, but would need the win this weekend then all is in our hands. Teams can jump forward very quickly, and any opportunity to jump up must be grabbed. Division 2 looks like it'll be a bear pit next year so have to take the chances to go up, and have young players improve on the best stage v better teams, televised games, better awareness and push to the next level. Staying still isn't enough

I think we can't be as poor as we were the last day. This type of game suits us better, away as underdogs. It shouldn't be that case, but it simply is right now. We play better when pressure is off us. We're obviously still up against it, but we have the talent and ability if we deliver a performance that's more than 15 minutes in a 2nd half and depending on Lynch frees to stay in it. A 40 to 50 minute performance and limit their purple patch could see us take this one, but a big ask. It's an opportunity in big games which we all said we wanted after being in lower divisions for 3 years, which will expose us and ready us for later in the year and we need to grab it and go at it

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2450 - 12/03/2024 12:47:56    2530892

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