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If Tyrone had won yesterdays clash v Monaghan in the way that Monaghan won, there would be people calling Tyrone one of the favourites for the AI and the team to knock Dublin's dominance. Why is it then that people aren't saying the same of Monaghan? Most of the plaudits coming to them after yesterdays win is that they will win Ulster and make the super 8's but I haven't heard one commentator say they have All Ireland credentials or maybe thats because they don't have the media power that Tyrone, Kerry and Dublin posses. The facts speak for themselves: - They have won two Ulster titles in the past 5 years. - They are now a consistent division 1 team. - They beat Dublin IN Croke Park this year (Only Kerry have managed that in the past few years) - They are not solely reliant on the brilliance of Mc Manus any more. - They have a stronger panel now than the past 5 years. These lads have the experience to go all the way and I'm a big fan of their attitude and preparation. With the greatest respect to Fermanagh, they'll have too much for them and although we are probably favourites to meet them in the Ulster Final, this young Donegal team aren't ready for them yet. I'll be putting a sneaky few quid on them anyway. Tir Conaill Abu (Donegal) - Posts: 1671 - 21/05/2018 20:20:22 2102795 Link
Have Monaghan ever won a quarter final? Until they start winning big games at the business end of the championship then they can't be considered contenders for an All Ireland. Im a fan though at what they have achieved which such a small population. Some other counties could take note. yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11236 - 21/05/2018 21:01:45 2102811 Link
Replying To Tir Conaill Abu: "If Tyrone had won yesterdays clash v Monaghan in the way that Monaghan won, there would be people calling Tyrone one of the favourites for the AI and the team to knock Dublin's dominance. Why is it then that people aren't saying the same of Monaghan? Most of the plaudits coming to them after yesterdays win is that they will win Ulster and make the super 8's but I haven't heard one commentator say they have All Ireland credentials or maybe thats because they don't have the media power that Tyrone, Kerry and Dublin posses. The facts speak for themselves: - They have won two Ulster titles in the past 5 years. - They are now a consistent division 1 team. - They beat Dublin IN Croke Park this year (Only Kerry have managed that in the past few years) - They are not solely reliant on the brilliance of Mc Manus any more. - They have a stronger panel now than the past 5 years. These lads have the experience to go all the way and I'm a big fan of their attitude and preparation. With the greatest respect to Fermanagh, they'll have too much for them and although we are probably favourites to meet them in the Ulster Final, this young Donegal team aren't ready for them yet. I'll be putting a sneaky few quid on them anyway." on who now donegal to win ulster or monaghan to win all ireland prideof85 (Monaghan) - Posts: 851 - 21/05/2018 21:03:29 2102812 Link
Please stop.... It was a good win yes, but at the end of the day it was a first round Ulster game, and we haven't been in an All-Ireland semi in 30 years. I'm happy with our team and how the year is shaping up, but to call this an overreaction would be an understatement. We started well in Ulster last year then Down handed our arses to us. Fermanagh is all that's on the mind now. patk (Monaghan) - Posts: 936 - 21/05/2018 21:05:44 2102814 Link
Why not indeed? They're an excellent side! realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8596 - 21/05/2018 21:11:22 2102819 Link
Replying To Tir Conaill Abu: "If Tyrone had won yesterdays clash v Monaghan in the way that Monaghan won, there would be people calling Tyrone one of the favourites for the AI and the team to knock Dublin's dominance. Why is it then that people aren't saying the same of Monaghan? Most of the plaudits coming to them after yesterdays win is that they will win Ulster and make the super 8's but I haven't heard one commentator say they have All Ireland credentials or maybe thats because they don't have the media power that Tyrone, Kerry and Dublin posses. The facts speak for themselves: - They have won two Ulster titles in the past 5 years. - They are now a consistent division 1 team. - They beat Dublin IN Croke Park this year (Only Kerry have managed that in the past few years) - They are not solely reliant on the brilliance of Mc Manus any more. - They have a stronger panel now than the past 5 years. These lads have the experience to go all the way and I'm a big fan of their attitude and preparation. With the greatest respect to Fermanagh, they'll have too much for them and although we are probably favourites to meet them in the Ulster Final, this young Donegal team aren't ready for them yet. I'll be putting a sneaky few quid on them anyway." No doubt it was a great performance and now they have a lot more than just the best forward in the country by a mile McManus but time will tell how far they will get I think they will win ulster and get to a semi and anything after that is a bonus.wouldn't read a lot into beating Dublin last game of the league when dublin had already qualified for the final. For along time tho and by merit all the talk was about dublin Kerry mayo I think now in the next couple years the talk could be about Dublin Monaghan Kerry and Galway,Kerry have some brilliant young players coming through and with all,the resources dublin have it will be a long time until they are fully off the scene Galwayjoe86 (Galway) - Posts: 258 - 21/05/2018 21:11:40 2102820 Link
Replying To yew_tree: "Have Monaghan ever won a quarter final? Until they start winning big games at the business end of the championship then they can't be considered contenders for an All Ireland. Im a fan though at what they have achieved which such a small population. Some other counties could take note." I know they haven't won a quarter final but as I said, if Tyrone had won in the same manner as Monaghan I would guarantee there would be more comments about them being genuine contenders for the AI. It just seems strange that Monaghan aren't getting that same elevated level. It's not as if they are a division 3 side who had a major upset! I agree with your comment about the credit they deserve given their population. If larger populated counties like Cork, Meath etc. could mirror the level of commitment and desire that Monaghan have they would be a major contender. Tir Conaill Abu (Donegal) - Posts: 1671 - 21/05/2018 21:49:58 2102833 Link
Replying To Tir Conaill Abu: "If Tyrone had won yesterdays clash v Monaghan in the way that Monaghan won, there would be people calling Tyrone one of the favourites for the AI and the team to knock Dublin's dominance. Why is it then that people aren't saying the same of Monaghan? Most of the plaudits coming to them after yesterdays win is that they will win Ulster and make the super 8's but I haven't heard one commentator say they have All Ireland credentials or maybe thats because they don't have the media power that Tyrone, Kerry and Dublin posses. The facts speak for themselves: - They have won two Ulster titles in the past 5 years. - They are now a consistent division 1 team. - They beat Dublin IN Croke Park this year (Only Kerry have managed that in the past few years) - They are not solely reliant on the brilliance of Mc Manus any more. - They have a stronger panel now than the past 5 years. These lads have the experience to go all the way and I'm a big fan of their attitude and preparation. With the greatest respect to Fermanagh, they'll have too much for them and although we are probably favourites to meet them in the Ulster Final, this young Donegal team aren't ready for them yet. I'll be putting a sneaky few quid on them anyway." Why don't we leave the poor mouth stuff to the Kerry lads? Yerra Yerra FootblockREF (Monaghan) - Posts: 564 - 21/05/2018 21:51:14 2102834 Link
I'm thinking of starting a thread called "Wicklow for the AI". Before I do though, I have to mull over how many question marks I should put in the title. PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1904 - 21/05/2018 21:56:44 2102835 Link
Monaghan for AI Lol. No. waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 21/05/2018 21:57:09 2102836 Link
Too many games to go yet to say that. If they can stay mentally focused and injury free they have a 20/1 chance. They have been off the bridal all year though. I fear they may have already peaked compared to others Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 21/05/2018 23:32:33 2102856 Link
Judging on this years form i would put them second favourites. Belclare1 (Galway) - Posts: 1626 - 22/05/2018 07:17:51 2102870 Link
I fear Monaghan are been set up for the fall. witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 22/05/2018 08:39:45 2102877 Link
If Monaghan win Ulster I would give them a good chance of reaching the All-Ireland final. Byanthon (Tyrone) - Posts: 1780 - 22/05/2018 08:50:22 2102880 Link
You'd have to fancy them to make the Super 8's now but trying to predict anything after that is very hard as it's the luck of the draw really. Id be very surprised if they get past the semi final stage myself based purely on recent history and having not gone past the QF stage in particular. They have a good team and a nice squad though so why not. Leicester won the EPL two years ago, Monaghan winning Sam isn't nearly as far fetched. GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 22/05/2018 09:21:21 2102893 Link
It's a long year. Monaghan put more into their league campaign than most. I think they'll win Ulster and will contend in the super 8's, possibly even making the AI semi final. Anything beyond that would be surprising to me however. Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9151 - 22/05/2018 09:43:01 2102908 Link
Sure they won't even make the Ulster Final. Nah in fairness they are a serious outfit. McManus is one of the best and it's no longer a case of stopping him now as there's plenty of other good forwards too. I can see them being there or there abouts at the end of the championship gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 22/05/2018 09:53:28 2102918 Link
the only people talking this tripe is people outside the county of monaghan.. one win doesn't make a summer detruth (Monaghan) - Posts: 196 - 22/05/2018 09:56:06 2102919 Link
Replying To Donegalman: "Too many games to go yet to say that. If they can stay mentally focused and injury free they have a 20/1 chance. They have been off the bridal all year though. I fear they may have already peaked compared to others" Although I think this is a crazy thread to post after a first round game, I wouldn't agree at all with the assessment that we've been off the bridal all year. That would have been a fair shout in other years recently, where we put full emphasis on the league and used our full team throughout in order to stay up. But this year we utilised the squad to the fullest, using about 30 players or so. Only 2 or 3 lads were ever presents, and some of the more senior lads only played bits and pieces until the end of the league, and we were more or less safe relatively early, so the pressure wasn't on late for survival. Plenty of gametime was offered to newcomers like Kerr, Garland and Kearns especially, who looked completely at home in his debut, for a tough Ulster game at the weekend. If the Super 8s were there in previous years, I'd say we'd have been burnt out by that stage if we made it there. But this year I would say our squad is much better equipped. patk (Monaghan) - Posts: 936 - 22/05/2018 09:56:53 2102922 Link
Sure why not, its a a game of football at the end of the day, winning an All Ireland is only a closed shop if you believe it Success will be achieved if they overcome a number of obstacles, i think the Super 8's suit them if they get that far, their mentality will be questioned also on big days, if they overcome that, it would be a great. Id love to see them get to an All Ireland final myself and would be great for the morale of the GAA. I dont mean to patronizing or patting them on the head by saying the above, they are a serious and competitive team who will give anyone a game. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 22/05/2018 10:10:34 2102925 Link