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Yea Waterford had a strong team out. They were all over the place on Sunday. Looked like a team which had trained that morning! One point from play for the entire first half from your wing back is extremely poor. But they are still capable of getting a result down in Cork this weekend especially if Lehane and Cadogan are missing again. McGrath might listen to John Mullane and abandon the sweeper for this one. One positive for the Deise to take away from the Kilkenny game was the performance of Tom Devine.

What about this young Martin Keoghan lad? He was playing schools last year.

PortInFaithful (Offaly) - Posts: 252 - 20/02/2018 11:24:38    2078677

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Replying To PortInFaithful:  "Yea Waterford had a strong team out. They were all over the place on Sunday. Looked like a team which had trained that morning! One point from play for the entire first half from your wing back is extremely poor. But they are still capable of getting a result down in Cork this weekend especially if Lehane and Cadogan are missing again. McGrath might listen to John Mullane and abandon the sweeper for this one. One positive for the Deise to take away from the Kilkenny game was the performance of Tom Devine.

What about this young Martin Keoghan lad? He was playing schools last year."
I can't see him ever abandoning it. If he hasn't done it by now then I can't see it happening unfortunately. Their scoring has been extremely poor especially the last two games against Tipp and KK. Having said that I've a feeling Waterford are trying to plan their run this year and I'd guess they won't be worried just yet,

1A is a different division this year than the last few as most predicted. Nearly all the teams are experimenting and aren't overly concerned by the threat of relegation. Tipp for example have used 29 players in 3 games and I'd imagine most other counties are similar. You'll probably see Clare experiment further too now they've 3/3.
This year I wouldn't read into the League at all.
It'll be an interesting year with the way the cship is set up

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 2252 - 20/02/2018 12:23:28    2078701

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Replying To tiobraid:  "I can't see him ever abandoning it. If he hasn't done it by now then I can't see it happening unfortunately. Their scoring has been extremely poor especially the last two games against Tipp and KK. Having said that I've a feeling Waterford are trying to plan their run this year and I'd guess they won't be worried just yet,

1A is a different division this year than the last few as most predicted. Nearly all the teams are experimenting and aren't overly concerned by the threat of relegation. Tipp for example have used 29 players in 3 games and I'd imagine most other counties are similar. You'll probably see Clare experiment further too now they've 3/3.
This year I wouldn't read into the League at all.
It'll be an interesting year with the way the cship is set up"
Good points made there.

Scoring has always been a problem for Waterford under this management although I thought they had improved in that department last year. We talk about all the teams experimenting in the league with the new championship in mind but why doesn't McGrath try to freshen things up and go all out attack for the remainder of the league. He seems hell bent on sticking to his defensive principles. His decision to use no substitutes in the Wexford game was bizarre. Clare and Tipperary are getting good use out of the league blooding new players but I haven't a clue what Waterford are trying to get out of it.

PortInFaithful (Offaly) - Posts: 252 - 20/02/2018 14:25:12    2078738

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Replying To PortInFaithful:  "Good points made there.

Scoring has always been a problem for Waterford under this management although I thought they had improved in that department last year. We talk about all the teams experimenting in the league with the new championship in mind but why doesn't McGrath try to freshen things up and go all out attack for the remainder of the league. He seems hell bent on sticking to his defensive principles. His decision to use no substitutes in the Wexford game was bizarre. Clare and Tipperary are getting good use out of the league blooding new players but I haven't a clue what Waterford are trying to get out of it."
I think his theory was for the first two games he wanted to get 70 mins into players where possible. While I don't agree with Waterford's system...I think if he is planning on sticking to it then he needs to stick to his guns for the rest of the league. There's no point going all out for a few games and then going back to the sweeper.

Kilkenny are getting a fair bit from the league themselves. They've unearthed a number of players by the looks of it and I fancy them to beat Tipp next weekend also. I feel Cody will be reasonably happy so far.
BUT there's a lot of shadow boxing so far and I'm not even sure the Munster and Leinster cships in their new formats will tell us a huge amount. It's going to take managers and teams a couple of years to figure out their best way of approaching each year. 4 games could win an All Ireland some years. Now if I'm correct, it could take 8+ and it's finished in August.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 2252 - 20/02/2018 17:13:15    2078790

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Replying To tiobraid:  "I think his theory was for the first two games he wanted to get 70 mins into players where possible. While I don't agree with Waterford's system...I think if he is planning on sticking to it then he needs to stick to his guns for the rest of the league. There's no point going all out for a few games and then going back to the sweeper.

Kilkenny are getting a fair bit from the league themselves. They've unearthed a number of players by the looks of it and I fancy them to beat Tipp next weekend also. I feel Cody will be reasonably happy so far.
BUT there's a lot of shadow boxing so far and I'm not even sure the Munster and Leinster cships in their new formats will tell us a huge amount. It's going to take managers and teams a couple of years to figure out their best way of approaching each year. 4 games could win an All Ireland some years. Now if I'm correct, it could take 8+ and it's finished in August."
Hmm. I think McGrath should throw caution at the wind for the remaining league games. It's not working for them at the moment and they need a change badly. And now it looks like Gleeson has picked up an injury and is out for this weekend. Agree with the rest of your comments.

PortInFaithful (Offaly) - Posts: 252 - 21/02/2018 16:15:39    2079016

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