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Well, seeing as the allianz hurling leagues are only around the corner now I said I'd set up a thread to discuss all things related from Division 1A to 3B. PortInFaithful (Offaly) - Posts: 472 - 17/01/2018 19:19:20 2068946 Link 1 |
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Round 1 fixtures: PortInFaithful (Offaly) - Posts: 472 - 17/01/2018 19:21:41 2068947 Link 0 |
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A prediction thread? With the new championship structure in place in both football and hurling we may as well try to predict the direction the wind will be blowing in 2 weeks time. More than ever, at the top level, everything will depend of the motivation of the different teams. I don't think any of the top hurling teams will be trying a lot to do well in the league. It will be all shadow boxing and experimentation. From 1B downwards, games should be more predictable alright as teams won't be distracted by the "real league" that is now part of the championship structure.
PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1903 - 17/01/2018 19:55:11 2068954 Link 0 |
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I'm after filling two in on boards.ie for both football and hurling. I'll happily suggest that we may cause an upset in Croker. LooseCannon (Offaly) - Posts: 86 - 17/01/2018 19:56:00 2068956 Link 0 |
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Prediction thread would be just for a bit of craic that's all. I agree with what you're saying regarding the shadow boxing and experimentation that will be going on. Some of the top managers will be keeping their cards close to their chest more than ever now but look the league is something to whet the appetite for the championship.
PortInFaithful (Offaly) - Posts: 472 - 17/01/2018 20:18:23 2068966 Link 0 |
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If we bring the same level of intensity and passion as we did against Kilkenny last Saturday I'd be happy. When was the last time our senior hurlers won in Croker?
PortInFaithful (Offaly) - Posts: 472 - 17/01/2018 20:25:19 2068968 Link 0 |
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Interested in the predictions to I'm just going to carry on predict them anyways (A Football Prediction thread would be Great aswell) Not being rude, but in opinion I think single topics for individual matches is better and easier as it does not cause confusion. oakleafersir (Derry) - Posts: 808 - 17/01/2018 20:26:05 2068969 Link 0 |
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We drew v Galway I recall, can't remember the year. Think Derek Molloy got a horrific injury the same day. I'll get back to you on that one. LooseCannon (Offaly) - Posts: 86 - 17/01/2018 20:35:59 2068972 Link 0 |
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23 July 2005 Relegation semi v Antrim July 23 Semi-final Offaly 5-17 - 0-18 Antrim OY B Carroll 1-8 (4f); M Cordial 2-3; B Murphy 1-3; J Brady 1-0; M O'Hara, G Hanniffy, D Murray 0-1 each. Am B McCall 0-7 (5f); J McIntosh 0-5 (2f, 1 '65); M Scullion, J Connelly, B Herron, C Hammill, K McKee ('65), C Herron 0-1 each. Croke Park, Dubin Ref was Sexton from Limerick. LooseCannon (Offaly) - Posts: 86 - 17/01/2018 20:51:10 2068977 Link 1 |
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Yea drew with Galway in 2010. We haven't had many days in Croke Park since. My last time watching us play there was against Dublin in 2011. I think our last win was against Antrim in 2005.
PortInFaithful (Offaly) - Posts: 472 - 17/01/2018 20:55:15 2068979 Link 0 |
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1A Byanthon (Tyrone) - Posts: 1780 - 18/01/2018 13:14:26 2069071 Link 0 |
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1A Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2119 - 19/01/2018 04:34:08 2069193 Link 0 |
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Looking at the divisions I'd say it's time to reduce them in number. 5 would seem to be more than enough, maybe even 4. 2b looks a fairly strong division with most teams capable of playing in 2a. Maybe scrap 3b and push 2 teams up from both 3a and 2b is a solution? Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 19/01/2018 10:36:02 2069226 Link 0 |
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As you go down the divisions the gap between teams gets wider. Division 2a will be competitive with Carlow, Kerry and Westmeath all having played at McCarthy level in the last few years. If any of them played Donegal, mayo or most of the div2b teams there would be 20 points in it. League works well as it is except for the difficulty in getting from div2a to div1 carlovia (None) - Posts: 1517 - 20/01/2018 18:35:35 2069495 Link 0 |
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3 of the 6 teams in 1B last year lost a league game by more than 20 points but it was still an interesting division. It's only 3 years since Derry were beating Carlow and drawing with Westmeath in the league, I don't think the gap is as great as you say. Down, Derry, Wicklow and Mayo would all be as competitive in 2A as the teams you mention would be in 1B. As things stand I think some counties are going stale in the lower divisions and the leagues could do with a shake up.
Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 21/01/2018 10:58:05 2069605 Link 0 |
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Can't remember Derry beating carlow although they ran us close in 2015 and they beat Westmeath the same year. Derry are a county who could be in div1b if they had their footballers playing. Maybe the solution is 2 teams promoted from each division instead of 1. But I know Carlow couldn't have survived another few years of the Ring cup as it wasn't competitive outside of Antrim. carlovia (None) - Posts: 1517 - 21/01/2018 11:50:32 2069621 Link 0 |
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You are right, Derry didn't beat Carlow but ran them to 2 points and beat Westmeath. In the Christy Ring this year there are 8 teams from 3 different divisions. It would seem to make more sense to have teams of varying standard compete in the same league rather than the same championship. In the lower divisions teams are playing the same teams of a similar standard year after year with no real obvious progress. The weaker teams in 1B have taken some bad beatings but look to be improving, and the one-sided games have not hampered the better teams in 1B either.
Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 21/01/2018 12:27:13 2069629 Link 0 |
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Having a few easier games in 1b probably helps teams as they can rest players and play the squad. carlovia (None) - Posts: 1517 - 21/01/2018 12:56:47 2069634 Link 0 |
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Nothing stopping posters from setting up topics for matches individually. I just thought it would be a good idea to set up a thread to discuss all things related to the leagues. We can debate everything here like the format as Soma and carlovia are at now.
PortInFaithful (Offaly) - Posts: 472 - 21/01/2018 13:18:16 2069643 Link 0 |
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Any word on how Waterford, Tipperary and Galway are shaping? Callanan will miss most of the campaign with a back injury so he's a big loss for Tipperary. For Waterford, Shane Bennett is taking a break and it's been reported today that Tom Devine is gone for three weeks with injury. PortInFaithful (Offaly) - Posts: 472 - 22/01/2018 14:49:44 2069880 Link 0 |