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New Rules At Club Games

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Any early indications of how new rules are working at club level in Meath? How are the referees coping? Are scores up on before or what are peoples thoughts so far based on handful of games played?

winatallcost (Meath) - Posts: 605 - 07/02/2025 14:06:31    2589891

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Replying To winatallcost:  "Any early indications of how new rules are working at club level in Meath? How are the referees coping? Are scores up on before or what are peoples thoughts so far based on handful of games played?"
Was at a Tailtean cup game last night - my first time seeing the new rules in a club game.
The pitch was marked well and was easy to see.
The pick and go worked well and is really speeding up the game. There were a few frees given when the player picking and going was pulled back.
The 3 up rule wasn't implemented well and to be fair to the referee he doesnt have eyes in the back of his head to monitor this. This will be tricky in important matches especially if theres a linesman from one of the teams

There was one unusual rule introduced where if the ball was kicked backwards from a free or sideline, it was a free to the opposite team. It was questioned with the ref and he said this is what he was told.
Anyone else experience that?

LettuceBFrank (Meath) - Posts: 20 - 12/02/2025 13:15:01    2590749

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Replying To LettuceBFrank:  "Was at a Tailtean cup game last night - my first time seeing the new rules in a club game.
The pitch was marked well and was easy to see.
The pick and go worked well and is really speeding up the game. There were a few frees given when the player picking and going was pulled back.
The 3 up rule wasn't implemented well and to be fair to the referee he doesnt have eyes in the back of his head to monitor this. This will be tricky in important matches especially if theres a linesman from one of the teams

There was one unusual rule introduced where if the ball was kicked backwards from a free or sideline, it was a free to the opposite team. It was questioned with the ref and he said this is what he was told.
Anyone else experience that?"
If you take a solo and go backwards, it's a free for the opposition. You can still kick a free and sideline backwards.

royal11 (Meath) - Posts: 103 - 12/02/2025 17:15:22    2590776

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Kells v donash in feis cup was an excellent game fast end to end stuff, very high scoring 1st half with a total of 4 -18 between both teams scored. , both teams made numerous changes during the 2nd half disrupted the flow a bit, referee Kieran Orwell was excellent, explaining his decisions when questioned. Positive reaction from the supporters in attendance

royler (Meath) - Posts: 280 - 13/02/2025 10:24:26    2590819

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Replying To royler:  "Kells v donash in feis cup was an excellent game fast end to end stuff, very high scoring 1st half with a total of 4 -18 between both teams scored. , both teams made numerous changes during the 2nd half disrupted the flow a bit, referee Kieran Orwell was excellent, explaining his decisions when questioned. Positive reaction from the supporters in attendance"
Excellent Ref. Talks to the players. Treats them with respect. Finds the balance to be tough. Surprised he hasn't been pushed onto the national stage yet. Could do with more like him.

GenderNeutral (Meath) - Posts: 117 - 13/02/2025 11:08:21    2590824

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Was at two games the weekend and have to say refereeing was poor in both. New rules and the confusion around them played the biggest part. One thing that is needed is the halfway line needs to be a different colour as referees are getting confused by the three lines in close proximity.

Greensheen (Meath) - Posts: 60 - 16/02/2025 09:57:02    2591293

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I think common sense will prevail here. Both sets of players and management will understand that unless the referee has 2 neutral linesmen he has no hope of implementing the 3 on 3.

Only have seen one club game and in fairness the referee was very good.

Teams will be using the cup and league to as preparation for championship so I cant imagine they will be trying to deliberately break the rules. Of course players will loose concentration at times at wander across the line, happened in Dubs Kerry game last night, will take time for the rules to cement properly into players minds.

Really like the tap and go, probably the best rule change with the 3 on 3.

2 pointer another, great way of punishing 12 defending the arc.

In my opinion the rules have improved the game thus far.

thelutch (Meath) - Posts: 1077 - 16/02/2025 12:51:25    2591319

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Refs didn't attend Meath refs conference on new rules in any great numbers. Which was disappointing.

At a game at weekend. Ref made three errors by his own admission that cost a team 4 points. 2 pointer free that was allowed be brought out and two 13m frees on incorrect calls.

County board will have to appoint lines men to championship games. The handing back the ball has to go as does the need to keep three up if opposition get a black card on a forward. It's no advantage. Free man should be allowed out.

Otherwise it's very very positive. Allows lads to play

Meathooooo (Meath) - Posts: 100 - 17/02/2025 13:40:47    2591577

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Replying To Meathooooo:  "Refs didn't attend Meath refs conference on new rules in any great numbers. Which was disappointing.

At a game at weekend. Ref made three errors by his own admission that cost a team 4 points. 2 pointer free that was allowed be brought out and two 13m frees on incorrect calls.

County board will have to appoint lines men to championship games. The handing back the ball has to go as does the need to keep three up if opposition get a black card on a forward. It's no advantage. Free man should be allowed out.

Otherwise it's very very positive. Allows lads to play"
Don't need to keep 3 up if a forward gets a black. Equally if a back gets a black one of the three can drop back. In a way, the penalty for a black and even a red has reduced alot.

winatallcost (Meath) - Posts: 605 - 19/02/2025 11:57:20    2591909

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After watching a few games I'm not sure these rules have improved much about what football is supposed to be and that's FOOTBALL .
The hand pass hasn't changed its still overused and the recycling of the ball is still there the goalie out field.
We have gone to an area of no return with these rules and I think club football under these rules will be a disaster to try and ref .
The way around the 3 up rule was to make the game 13 aside and stick keeper and that something that should be considered for club football .
13 aside would suit with a lot of Clubs are struggling to field teams .
The game is more like basketball now than ever and basketball is none contact sport the same way Gaelic Football is going .
The game needed change but the game as is was is now gone forever the lads with the clipboards have won and the clubs finance them with club lottos.

mmc (Meath) - Posts: 284 - 23/02/2025 09:03:08    2592556

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Replying To mmc:  "After watching a few games I'm not sure these rules have improved much about what football is supposed to be and that's FOOTBALL .
The hand pass hasn't changed its still overused and the recycling of the ball is still there the goalie out field.
We have gone to an area of no return with these rules and I think club football under these rules will be a disaster to try and ref .
The way around the 3 up rule was to make the game 13 aside and stick keeper and that something that should be considered for club football .
13 aside would suit with a lot of Clubs are struggling to field teams .
The game is more like basketball now than ever and basketball is none contact sport the same way Gaelic Football is going .
The game needed change but the game as is was is now gone forever the lads with the clipboards have won and the clubs finance them with club lottos."
Looking at the club results last few weeks and the walkovers even as high as intermediate level would indicate there is a serious problem in club football in Meath. Can't understand why there are fixtures so early on in year in any case when club championships won't start until July at the earliest.
Clubs are back training in January and it all doesn't really make sense with the split season. It's actually not a split season at all. The intercounty season has shortened but if anything the club season is longer.
On the new rules, it is really designed for intercounty with all the players so fit, they were all essentially playing the field and it became too difficult to score. That only applied to higher level club matches. The club matches are complicated a bit now and the referees generally are not great so it will be a mess.

winatallcost (Meath) - Posts: 605 - 23/02/2025 11:49:37    2592580

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Replying To winatallcost:  "Don't need to keep 3 up if a forward gets a black. Equally if a back gets a black one of the three can drop back. In a way, the penalty for a black and even a red has reduced alot."
Are you sure? If a team has man sent off, a full forward for example. The opposition has to still keep three backs up.

Some one needs to tell the refs if you are right.

Meathooooo (Meath) - Posts: 100 - 23/02/2025 18:53:31    2592698

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