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Championship & Player Elibibility

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hi all,
What are the rules this year surrounding playing championship and premier reserve. The old way was if you played championship with your clubs most senior team whether that be senior, inter or junior you could not play junior b for example.
I believe the new rule is theres a top 8 named and only those 8 are not permitted from playing intermiediate and junior.
Can anyone confirm this?
Cheers

LetuceBFrank (Meath) - Posts: 67 - 09/07/2020 10:02:47    2283558

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Replying To LetuceBFrank:  "hi all,
What are the rules this year surrounding playing championship and premier reserve. The old way was if you played championship with your clubs most senior team whether that be senior, inter or junior you could not play junior b for example.
I believe the new rule is theres a top 8 named and only those 8 are not permitted from playing intermiediate and junior.
Can anyone confirm this?
Cheers"
Never heard anything about this , but would imagine it certainly wouldn't be a good way to go. I think if you play championship for the 1st team you should not be allowed play 2nd team especially if a club has only 2 teams . A lot of real 2nd team players don't think would bother turning up

Bear10 (Meath) - Posts: 463 - 09/07/2020 11:33:39    2283566

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Replying To Bear10:  "Never heard anything about this , but would imagine it certainly wouldn't be a good way to go. I think if you play championship for the 1st team you should not be allowed play 2nd team especially if a club has only 2 teams . A lot of real 2nd team players don't think would bother turning up"
Its in the bye laws. States that clubs must forward a list of their top 8 and these players can only play first team championship.

LetuceBFrank (Meath) - Posts: 67 - 09/07/2020 11:43:10    2283567

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Replying To LetuceBFrank:  "hi all,
What are the rules this year surrounding playing championship and premier reserve. The old way was if you played championship with your clubs most senior team whether that be senior, inter or junior you could not play junior b for example.
I believe the new rule is theres a top 8 named and only those 8 are not permitted from playing intermiediate and junior.
Can anyone confirm this?
Cheers"
As far as I'm aware it hasn't changed, there's no mention of it in the bye-laws or 2020 competition regulations.

What you might be thinking of is the rule where your top 8 players are named who can't play for a second team under any circumstances, even if they don't play a minute for the first team. Any player who plays for the first team as the starting 15 or a sub (aside from blood subs) is still ineligible for the second team.

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1664 - 09/07/2020 12:30:58    2283570

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Replying To LetuceBFrank:  "Its in the bye laws. States that clubs must forward a list of their top 8 and these players can only play first team championship."
No Just asked someone who would definitely know no player that players in a higher championship can play in a lower championship accordingly as per normal rules

Bear10 (Meath) - Posts: 463 - 09/07/2020 12:54:20    2283572

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Replying To Bear10:  "No Just asked someone who would definitely know no player that players in a higher championship can play in a lower championship accordingly as per normal rules"
thanks - we've been told that rules had changed and it was causing mass confusion in our club!
I think we'll work off the rule we're used to in that you cant play a lower grade championship once you play at a higher grade.
I get your point on the top 8, maybe thats where the confusion lay.

LetuceBFrank (Meath) - Posts: 67 - 09/07/2020 13:01:12    2283575

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Replying To LetuceBFrank:  "thanks - we've been told that rules had changed and it was causing mass confusion in our club!
I think we'll work off the rule we're used to in that you cant play a lower grade championship once you play at a higher grade.
I get your point on the top 8, maybe thats where the confusion lay."
The Premier Championship was due to start earlier in the year than the DFC, IDF and JFC.

Now thanks to Coronavirus, the PC is startiing at the same time.

The top 8 rule no longer applies and it goes back to anyone playing at a higher level in the championship can't drop back and play at a lower grade.

jackhackett (Meath) - Posts: 773 - 09/07/2020 13:51:59    2283581

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Replying To jackhackett:  "The Premier Championship was due to start earlier in the year than the DFC, IDF and JFC.

Now thanks to Coronavirus, the PC is startiing at the same time.

The top 8 rule no longer applies and it goes back to anyone playing at a higher level in the championship can't drop back and play at a lower grade."
Does this apply if a player only starts a first team championship game or can they still play premier championship if they come on as a sub for the first team?

BigJoe14 (Meath) - Posts: 997 - 10/07/2020 09:36:35    2283644

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Replying To BigJoe14:  "Does this apply if a player only starts a first team championship game or can they still play premier championship if they come on as a sub for the first team?"
If they come on as a sub in a higher grade in the Championship, they can't play in a lowe grade after that.

I'm unsure how the rule works with a blood/temporary sub.

jackhackett (Meath) - Posts: 773 - 10/07/2020 10:25:16    2283658

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Replying To jackhackett:  "The Premier Championship was due to start earlier in the year than the DFC, IDF and JFC.

Now thanks to Coronavirus, the PC is startiing at the same time.

The top 8 rule no longer applies and it goes back to anyone playing at a higher level in the championship can't drop back and play at a lower grade."
Are you saying that were it not for Covid-19, they had originally intended to allow all but 8 first team players play second team championship?

Sounds a bit bizarre really.

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1664 - 10/07/2020 11:56:59    2283669

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Replying To CastleBravo:  "Are you saying that were it not for Covid-19, they had originally intended to allow all but 8 first team players play second team championship?

Sounds a bit bizarre really."
yes I believe this was passed as the new premier Championship was to start in May or so before the SFC, IFC, JFC and that clubs in each grade named 13 at Senior and 10 I think at the lower grades. This was to work until the Senior etc started in August. It was designed to help ensure most all clubs would field and play Premier at some grade.

I think it was passed in January but like most things haven't heard anything lately

Brownepat (Meath) - Posts: 532 - 10/07/2020 15:05:35    2283691

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Replying To CastleBravo:  "Are you saying that were it not for Covid-19, they had originally intended to allow all but 8 first team players play second team championship?

Sounds a bit bizarre really."
Can't see any logic in it at all seems very unfair on second team players

bearindsquare (Meath) - Posts: 47 - 10/07/2020 17:35:28    2283708

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Replying To Brownepat:  "
Replying To CastleBravo:  "Are you saying that were it not for Covid-19, they had originally intended to allow all but 8 first team players play second team championship?

Sounds a bit bizarre really."
yes I believe this was passed as the new premier Championship was to start in May or so before the SFC, IFC, JFC and that clubs in each grade named 13 at Senior and 10 I think at the lower grades. This was to work until the Senior etc started in August. It was designed to help ensure most all clubs would field and play Premier at some grade.

I think it was passed in January but like most things haven't heard anything lately"
Baffled at that decision to be honest. Was there an epidemic of teams not fielding at junior level that went unreported or something?

The whole point of junior is so that lads outside the top 20 or so in their club can still get meaningful games against teams of a similar level. But now a lot of the places on the junior (premier or whatever) team will instead be taken by senior panelists; who does that benefit?

Not only that but since the Premier is played months in advance of the other competitions, there's no chance of self-regulation by the clubs. Where previously they might not want to play their seniors in junior games in order to keep them fresh for senior, they now have the freedom to have them play both. I really don't get it.

While I'm ranting I'd like to say how stupid it is to call your lowest grade of competition "Premier". Someone needs to get the dictionary out and look the word up.....

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1664 - 10/07/2020 19:23:04    2283718

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Replying To Brownepat:  "
Replying To CastleBravo:  "Are you saying that were it not for Covid-19, they had originally intended to allow all but 8 first team players play second team championship?

Sounds a bit bizarre really."
yes I believe this was passed as the new premier Championship was to start in May or so before the SFC, IFC, JFC and that clubs in each grade named 13 at Senior and 10 I think at the lower grades. This was to work until the Senior etc started in August. It was designed to help ensure most all clubs would field and play Premier at some grade.

I think it was passed in January but like most things haven't heard anything lately"
thanks - did the county board come out and say this is not the case post covid? Cant see anything on website

LetuceBFrank (Meath) - Posts: 67 - 10/07/2020 22:01:17    2283732

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Talking about Junior & Senior eligibility , is there going to be a Junior Inter County All Ireland or has Covid killed that off , i think this was to be the last year anyway?

ABD09 (Meath) - Posts: 68 - 13/07/2020 11:52:06    2283918

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Replying To ABD09:  "Talking about Junior & Senior eligibility , is there going to be a Junior Inter County All Ireland or has Covid killed that off , i think this was to be the last year anyway?"
It's deader than the dodo.

jackhackett (Meath) - Posts: 773 - 13/07/2020 14:37:32    2283938

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