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Just wondering Since David Jennings Received a black card and continued to Play on afterwards, Standing in goals for the Longwood penalty. Is he now in line for the CCCC to suspend him ?? for a breach of the rules. latouche25 (Meath) - Posts: 520 - 10/04/2018 07:37:26 2091991 Link
Replying To latouche25: "Just wondering Since David Jennings Received a black card and continued to Play on afterwards, Standing in goals for the Longwood penalty. Is he now in line for the CCCC to suspend him ?? for a breach of the rules." The player, I'm sure, was told by the referee he could stay in goals for the penalty so therefore should the referee not be stood down for the forseeable future? After all it was clearly the referee who completely misunderstood the rules. RoylerKing (Meath) - Posts: 809 - 10/04/2018 10:18:00 2092013 Link
Replying To latouche25: "Just wondering Since David Jennings Received a black card and continued to Play on afterwards, Standing in goals for the Longwood penalty. Is he now in line for the CCCC to suspend him ?? for a breach of the rules." Hardly his fault. Surely the ref should no the rules and enforce them. If that was me and the ref told me I could stay on for the pen and go off after I'd just assume it's the rule because the ref told me and he would know them. Aloblack (Meath) - Posts: 265 - 10/04/2018 10:23:45 2092016 Link
hardly his fault and thankfully he didnt save the penalty....embarrassing for ref not to know the rule, he took off gloves and was walking and ref seemed to call him back longroadback (Meath) - Posts: 324 - 10/04/2018 11:21:46 2092038 Link
Replying To RoylerKing: "The player, I'm sure, was told by the referee he could stay in goals for the penalty so therefore should the referee not be stood down for the forseeable future? After all it was clearly the referee who completely misunderstood the rules." dont think there are enough referees to be able to stand any of them down. juicy (Meath) - Posts: 399 - 10/04/2018 11:38:50 2092042 Link
Referees are a joke these days, we badly need new lads coming up the system getting fully trained and tutored on the rule book, they really are a law onto themselves, I have been saying this since the start of year, they are actually getting worse. Loyalroyal17 (Meath) - Posts: 627 - 10/04/2018 12:04:07 2092051 Link
Referee probably did slip up by not ordering him off immediately but the goalkeeper's situation being somewhat different to an outfield player I think the referee will escape censure. At least he did issue the black card, at club level I have seen many clear black cards not being issued. At least the save did not affect the outcome of the match but (and this is a long shot) it could make a difference if score difference is required to settle any placement in the group later. MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1061 - 10/04/2018 14:00:32 2092100 Link
Replying To MillerX: "Referee probably did slip up by not ordering him off immediately but the goalkeeper's situation being somewhat different to an outfield player I think the referee will escape censure. At least he did issue the black card, at club level I have seen many clear black cards not being issued. At least the save did not affect the outcome of the match but (and this is a long shot) it could make a difference if score difference is required to settle any placement in the group later." how would it, he stayed on for penalty which was scored and then the went off straight away... would only have been a problem if he saved the pen.... longroadback (Meath) - Posts: 324 - 10/04/2018 14:05:27 2092102 Link
I think a lot of people are been overly harsh on the referee without knowing that facts.i heard the referee did everything correctly and sent off the goalkeeper and allowed the sub keeper to come on for the penalty .the referees only mistake was that he didn't notice the David Jennings didn't leave the field and only noticed after the penalty was taken.but no harm done in the end so let's just move on. Referees are human too lads bobjaffacake (Meath) - Posts: 1400 - 10/04/2018 14:17:12 2092104 Link
So Richie made a mistake big deal . show me the player in any match last weekend that did not make a mistake. The Ref is human as well lads and don't for forget if we do not have referees we don't have games . In the county we have very few hurling referees at the moment and if were honest not many of them are GOOD enough to referee senior championship matches. With the standard of hurlers improving in the county and the standard of the county team improving unfortunately the refereeing situation had deteriorated in the last number of years. If you look back we had some brilliant referees in the county over the years, Tommy Cummins, Martin McCormack, Noel Costello(RIP) J, were all very good referees. None of the bunch refereeing at the moment are up to scratch except for Fergus Smith. Nick Fitzgearld is a good referee but he cannot referee this years as he is meath hurling manager. The county board are bringing a better standard of referee in from neighboring counties at the moment and long may it last. gardentree (Meath) - Posts: 194 - 10/04/2018 14:29:16 2092111 Link
Replying To bobjaffacake: "I think a lot of people are been overly harsh on the referee without knowing that facts.i heard the referee did everything correctly and sent off the goalkeeper and allowed the sub keeper to come on for the penalty .the referees only mistake was that he didn't notice the David Jennings didn't leave the field and only noticed after the penalty was taken.but no harm done in the end so let's just move on. Referees are human too lads" Not to gang up on the ref, but there's a major difference between not noticing that the player didn't leave the field, and not noticing that a player you just sent to the line is not only still on the pitch but is standing right in front of you in the goals getting ready to face a penalty. The ref was at most 25m from the goals when the penalty was taken. CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1643 - 10/04/2018 15:10:00 2092121 Link
Replying To bobjaffacake: "I think a lot of people are been overly harsh on the referee without knowing that facts.i heard the referee did everything correctly and sent off the goalkeeper and allowed the sub keeper to come on for the penalty .the referees only mistake was that he didn't notice the David Jennings didn't leave the field and only noticed after the penalty was taken.but no harm done in the end so let's just move on. Referees are human too lads" That's the best one I've heard in a while. You really can't expect us to believe that can you? RoylerKing (Meath) - Posts: 809 - 10/04/2018 16:13:00 2092151 Link
Replying To bobjaffacake: "I think a lot of people are been overly harsh on the referee without knowing that facts.i heard the referee did everything correctly and sent off the goalkeeper and allowed the sub keeper to come on for the penalty .the referees only mistake was that he didn't notice the David Jennings didn't leave the field and only noticed after the penalty was taken.but no harm done in the end so let's just move on. Referees are human too lads" Couldnt disagree with you more! Dont think anyone is been harsh on the ref at all. He made a mistake as alot of them are doing lately and unfortunately its becoming alot more frequent these days with them. He is a ref and its his job to notice what is going on on that pitch and if he didnt notice then he definetly was not doing his job right. Loyalroyal17 (Meath) - Posts: 627 - 10/04/2018 16:30:39 2092163 Link
Replying To MillerX: "Referee probably did slip up by not ordering him off immediately but the goalkeeper's situation being somewhat different to an outfield player I think the referee will escape censure. At least he did issue the black card, at club level I have seen many clear black cards not being issued. At least the save did not affect the outcome of the match but (and this is a long shot) it could make a difference if score difference is required to settle any placement in the group later." There's no way Longwood can/will complain, since it went as good as it could have gone for them; ball in the net and 3 points on the board.The only way I can see it affecting eventual score difference is if Dunderry themselves miss out on score difference and complain due to the events in this match. You'd then have the bizarre and possibly unique situation where a team objects because they themselves broke the rules. CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1643 - 10/04/2018 19:47:37 2092220 Link
Replying To CastleBravo: "There's no way Longwood can/will complain, since it went as good as it could have gone for them; ball in the net and 3 points on the board.The only way I can see it affecting eventual score difference is if Dunderry themselves miss out on score difference and complain due to the events in this match. You'd then have the bizarre and possibly unique situation where a team objects because they themselves broke the rules." I know but score difference only applies where three or more teams finish level on points or if two teams finish level and the actual match between them was a draw. I said nothing about an objection but just made the comment that the penalty save could be a matter of debate we're score difference to count later in the group just like a disallowed goal or a manager putting on subs late in a game and conceding late scores that eventually make a difference. MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1061 - 11/04/2018 11:07:41 2092305 Link