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Great to see this competition back again this year. In my view it was a great success last year. But I still think there are still a number of issues.
1. Some lads opting out because of College football and U21 Hurling.
2. Some senior players from clubs involved in regions and this is despite them playing Championship with their club in 2023.
3. Its a pity that not all regions adapted the approach in getting coaches from the respective clubs with that region.
4. Some managers calling in u19 players which is supposed to be not allowed.

Is there an argument for this competition to be played earlier in the season when its not competing with as many other competitions?
And that each club must have a representative on the coaching ticket. Some regions have went with this which is also good for developing the coaches in the County. Does "a job for the boys" still exist in Meath football?

199710 (Meath) - Posts: 120 - 24/10/2023 08:31:21    2509971

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Replying To 199710:  "Great to see this competition back again this year. In my view it was a great success last year. But I still think there are still a number of issues.
1. Some lads opting out because of College football and U21 Hurling.
2. Some senior players from clubs involved in regions and this is despite them playing Championship with their club in 2023.
3. Its a pity that not all regions adapted the approach in getting coaches from the respective clubs with that region.
4. Some managers calling in u19 players which is supposed to be not allowed.

Is there an argument for this competition to be played earlier in the season when its not competing with as many other competitions?
And that each club must have a representative on the coaching ticket. Some regions have went with this which is also good for developing the coaches in the County. Does "a job for the boys" still exist in Meath football?"
On point 2 'Some senior players from clubs involved in regions and this is despite them playing Championship with their club in 2023'

Are they involved as players or mentors?

I think the competition is good, but can't continue much longer in its current format. It can only keep going if it is incorporated into the Senior Championship, like the Kerry model. And to be honest, the way numbers are going in smaller rural clubs, this might need to happen sooner rather than later.

BigJoe14 (Meath) - Posts: 997 - 24/10/2023 10:05:26    2509979

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Replying To BigJoe14:  "On point 2 'Some senior players from clubs involved in regions and this is despite them playing Championship with their club in 2023'

Are they involved as players or mentors?

I think the competition is good, but can't continue much longer in its current format. It can only keep going if it is incorporated into the Senior Championship, like the Kerry model. And to be honest, the way numbers are going in smaller rural clubs, this might need to happen sooner rather than later."
Players it's a joke Luke Mitchell and Sean Ryan if there good enough they should stand out with their senior club teams and if he wants to have a look at them call them into training

Head4TheBlackSpot (Meath) - Posts: 20 - 24/10/2023 10:45:21    2509995

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Replying To Head4TheBlackSpot:  "Players it's a joke Luke Mitchell and Sean Ryan if there good enough they should stand out with their senior club teams and if he wants to have a look at them call them into training"
Looking at the Tara region I think they had to do something to help them.

No Kilbride no Dunshaughlin so picking from Blackhall a very poor intermediate team Bective a just about average intermediate and Dunsany an average junior team who their best forward fox isn't available so I have no real issue with them doing something to try and ensure they are competitive in the competition and if thats drafting in a couple of senior lads who didn't play much this year due to injury or travel then so be it.

Also replacing Rathkenny with Moynalvey is a good idea.

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1001 - 24/10/2023 11:45:43    2510015

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Any word on whether Cian McBride is playing Regional?

LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1521 - 24/10/2023 11:54:48    2510018

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Replying To LeitrimRoyal99:  "Any word on whether Cian McBride is playing Regional?"
He is playing.

BigJoe14 (Meath) - Posts: 997 - 24/10/2023 12:44:37    2510037

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Replying To Head4TheBlackSpot:  "Players it's a joke Luke Mitchell and Sean Ryan if there good enough they should stand out with their senior club teams and if he wants to have a look at them call them into training"
Rules are rules at the end of the day, Your always going to have teams in Leinster and those lads not available. Its not open to senior players full stop. The whole concept is to give players a chance to play senior who might never experience it and how would you like it if it was you who sat on the bench and S Ryan and Luke Mitchell was on the field, However if its only for training then I can see why. Some of the players from Blackhall stood out last year as to lads from Dunsany....

199710 (Meath) - Posts: 120 - 24/10/2023 13:46:59    2510063

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Replying To 199710:  "Rules are rules at the end of the day, Your always going to have teams in Leinster and those lads not available. Its not open to senior players full stop. The whole concept is to give players a chance to play senior who might never experience it and how would you like it if it was you who sat on the bench and S Ryan and Luke Mitchell was on the field, However if its only for training then I can see why. Some of the players from Blackhall stood out last year as to lads from Dunsany...."
Well actually when they announced the regions a few weeks ago on social media and what teams were in it there was a paragraph which stated "the county committee has the authority to make amendments to regional teams as necessary"

So there are no rules being broken. They are trying to ensure that we have as competitive a competition as possible so I have no issue with what they have done.

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1001 - 24/10/2023 14:01:22    2510067

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Replying To 199710:  "Rules are rules at the end of the day, Your always going to have teams in Leinster and those lads not available. Its not open to senior players full stop. The whole concept is to give players a chance to play senior who might never experience it and how would you like it if it was you who sat on the bench and S Ryan and Luke Mitchell was on the field, However if its only for training then I can see why. Some of the players from Blackhall stood out last year as to lads from Dunsany...."
It's hardly senior when no senior teams or players are playing so is it not essentially junior/intermediate level albeit limited as best u19 and players representing clubs in more important competitions not available? I'm sure maybe older players opted out too as little or no possibility of representing at county level at this stage. Midweek games at this time of year hardly a great incentive either so will be interesting to see what level the games will provide.

winatallcost (Meath) - Posts: 583 - 24/10/2023 14:11:29    2510069

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Replying To winatallcost:  "It's hardly senior when no senior teams or players are playing so is it not essentially junior/intermediate level albeit limited as best u19 and players representing clubs in more important competitions not available? I'm sure maybe older players opted out too as little or no possibility of representing at county level at this stage. Midweek games at this time of year hardly a great incentive either so will be interesting to see what level the games will provide."
Exactly. It's not senior if it's just players from different juniors and intermediate clubs playing against each other. Scrap the regional unless it's going to be tied in with the senior championship itself. Why not integrate the regionals into the senior championship (divisional teams don't get relegated in Kerry) and get rid of the ridiculous eight team relegation format. There is already enough going on heading into the winter months involving colleges, county squads and U19/U21 club.

summerof09 (Meath) - Posts: 323 - 25/10/2023 08:53:34    2510160

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Replying To summerof09:  "Exactly. It's not senior if it's just players from different juniors and intermediate clubs playing against each other. Scrap the regional unless it's going to be tied in with the senior championship itself. Why not integrate the regionals into the senior championship (divisional teams don't get relegated in Kerry) and get rid of the ridiculous eight team relegation format. There is already enough going on heading into the winter months involving colleges, county squads and U19/U21 club."
I would suspect this is the long term goal.

Just need to get the thing up and running for a few years and perhaps show there is an appetite among the junior and intermediate players to come together as regional teams to play which so far there definitely seems to be. Giving them a chance to have a crack at some of the big boys in senior would wet the appetite even more I would imagine.

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1001 - 25/10/2023 10:17:16    2510173

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Replying To winatallcost:  "It's hardly senior when no senior teams or players are playing so is it not essentially junior/intermediate level albeit limited as best u19 and players representing clubs in more important competitions not available? I'm sure maybe older players opted out too as little or no possibility of representing at county level at this stage. Midweek games at this time of year hardly a great incentive either so will be interesting to see what level the games will provide."
It's not senior in name but the standard is of similar nature given you have the strongest lower grade players coming together with a sprinkling of county standard players like Keoghan and Mickey Newmann who played last year.

Belt (Meath) - Posts: 272 - 25/10/2023 10:51:10    2510186

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Replying To Belt:  "It's not senior in name but the standard is of similar nature given you have the strongest lower grade players coming together with a sprinkling of county standard players like Keoghan and Mickey Newmann who played last year."
Aren't there a sprinking of county players in junior and intermediate in any case. For info. Keoghan no longer eligible as Rathkenny now senior while I don't know if Newman is available given his fitness issues and probably isn't fit enough any more to be considered county standard.

winatallcost (Meath) - Posts: 583 - 25/10/2023 11:59:25    2510205

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Replying To Belt:  "It's not senior in name but the standard is of similar nature given you have the strongest lower grade players coming together with a sprinkling of county standard players like Keoghan and Mickey Newmann who played last year."
Very hard to gauge the standard given no competitive games against senior opposition. Would all the regional teams even be able to win an intermediate or even a junior championship? I don't know the answer to this question?

winatallcost (Meath) - Posts: 583 - 25/10/2023 12:04:37    2510210

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While I'm a big fan of the regional championships in general, it's a terrible time of the year for having it.

Just from looking at some of the selections in last nights games, a lot of the best players with the clubs aren't playing. Whether it be clashing with u19s, Leinster clubs championship etc..

It was the same last year. It's a good concept but hard to make time for it in the calendar. Maybe do it the way Kerry do it? They have a really good system that works

hyperache (Meath) - Posts: 251 - 25/10/2023 13:14:24    2510226

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Replying To hyperache:  "While I'm a big fan of the regional championships in general, it's a terrible time of the year for having it.

Just from looking at some of the selections in last nights games, a lot of the best players with the clubs aren't playing. Whether it be clashing with u19s, Leinster clubs championship etc..

It was the same last year. It's a good concept but hard to make time for it in the calendar. Maybe do it the way Kerry do it? They have a really good system that works"
Are you suggesting that the senior championship be reduced to 8 club and 8 regional teams otlr increased to 24 teams. I think ypu can onlh have 16 team in senior as per gaa rules.

Islander21 (Meath) - Posts: 22 - 25/10/2023 15:16:39    2510267

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I don't understand this competition. How have we lads from Rathkenny, Moynalvy and Dunsaughlin playing in it. two senior teams and one just promoted to senior

latouche25 (Meath) - Posts: 531 - 25/10/2023 16:17:42    2510295

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Replying To latouche25:  "I don't understand this competition. How have we lads from Rathkenny, Moynalvy and Dunsaughlin playing in it. two senior teams and one just promoted to senior"
And dunboyne

Pintsandpoints (Meath) - Posts: 12 - 25/10/2023 17:02:08    2510304

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I think the main concept of the competition is to allow guys to play at a higher standard with a higher standard of player. Getting selected for a county panel is secondary. I think this year has been marketed badly, there were very bad attendances at games last night. There are also many top players not available for one reason or another. Hopefully it can be pushed a bit more in the next few weeks as last year's competition was very entertaining.

royal11 (Meath) - Posts: 102 - 25/10/2023 17:50:01    2510315

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Does it really matter if a few seniors play for god sake.

Ed2010 (Meath) - Posts: 109 - 25/10/2023 18:03:33    2510317

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