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finea3 totally agree looks like we where at the same match don't know about some people of this forum!

Jim_Shorts (Cavan) - Posts: 96 - 02/09/2012 21:11:06    1257636

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Semi draw is Mullahoran vs Killygarry. Kingscourt vs Castlerahan/Belturbet

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2487 - 02/09/2012 21:29:55    1257667

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Make that Kingscourt vs Castlerahan

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2487 - 02/09/2012 21:36:09    1257674

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whats with the " Kingscourt vs Castlerahan/Belturbet " was the draw not made after the game?? or was that just a guess?? what happened for the sending off in the gaels game??

humptydumpty1 (Cavan) - Posts: 92 - 02/09/2012 21:54:16    1257688

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It would be totally wrong to blame the referee he awarded a free out which was the correct decision. The umpire gave a wide and that was the result of that decision. The red card was for a head butt with intent, you throw a head but and all that is required is intent. The lines man brought this to the ref attention he gave a straight red.
In fairness not all Cavan gaels supporters behaved badly same face again stood out today what a shame, Cavan Gales should ban him from their club for life he is a disgrace, others miss behaved as well but one stood out. I think the County Board should ignore it and leave the club deal with it. Just my opinion.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4602 - 02/09/2012 21:55:49    1257690

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Sorry humpty, I'm typing from my phone, I had typed that in last week after I posted quarters draw and my phone autofilled. Only copped it when I seen the post

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2487 - 02/09/2012 22:00:11    1257693

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Cavan Gaels put in an appeal late last night i hear over the dis-allowing of a point that went over the bar.i think they are right to do this.some of there players were a disgrace yestarday at final whistle and its uncalled for.but the ref was totally against them,should have given them a free in at very end,and wouldnt stop play when they had a man down with a bad head injury,although he did stop play when killygarry had a man down with a head injury..i think its time to get rid of these bad refs,eben the neautrals agrred yestrday that the gaels were robbed.i hope they win there appeal

gaelsutd (Cavan) - Posts: 602 - 03/09/2012 08:39:19    1257705

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Cavan Gaels put in an appeal late last night i hear over the dis-allowing of a point that went over the bar.i think they are right to do this.some of there players were a disgrace yestarday at final whistle and its uncalled for.but the ref was totally against them,should have given them a free in at very end,and wouldnt stop play when they had a man down with a bad head injury,although he did stop play when killygarry had a man down with a head injury..i think its time to get rid of these bad refs,eben the neautrals agrred yestrday that the gaels were robbed.i hope they win there appeal
gaelsutd , 03/09/2012 at 08:39


I would be very surprised if their appeal was allowed. In fact I think you guy's need to look at yourself s and ask the question why you fielded the team you did and also the substitutions you made over the hour.
It's a shame that you cannot take it on the chin and move on. Come back next year and be great again. You were a poor Cavan Gaels team yesterday with a lot of present and current county players sadly not one stood up to the mark.

I thought there was two points in this match in the end I stand corrected.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4602 - 03/09/2012 09:43:21    1257761

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agree with sean.the geals should take their beating.
killygarry have blown the championship wide open. 2 very intriguing semi fianls to look forward to. its for the benefit of cavan football that 2 different teams will contest the final in october. however i have to admit the quality of the senior championship is very poor at the moment and in regards to ulster i wouldnt be overly confident of any of the remaining teams going far in ulster. but then again the geals could never go to far.

asdfg (Cavan) - Posts: 320 - 03/09/2012 09:59:09    1257785

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An appeal on what basis ??
A point that you think went over but was not given ? If it is not given at the time, thats end of story. It's not croke park were in. No hawk eye technology im afraid. How would they win their appeal ?
Referees decision is final.
Could the video footage show it or what angle was it kicked from on the park ?
If anything the Gaels will have a few suspensions arising out of this from what i heard.
You can not hit a referee no matter what decisions he did or did not give.
Only scoring 9 points is poor v Killygary. Gaels obviously were too confident & it kicked them in rear end i'm afraid

Ritz (None) - Posts: 199 - 03/09/2012 10:01:10    1257787

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refereeing performances yet again dominate one of these forums! after being at the ballinagh v mullahorn and cavan gaels v killygarry games i would have to agree with the above complaints. Brendan sweeney use to play with mullahorn at underage level and therefore should never ref mullahorn games.

i do not put all the blame on the refs, ballinagh or cavan gaels did not perfrom in their respective games but refereeing decisions didnt help.

johnydrama (Cavan) - Posts: 131 - 03/09/2012 10:02:35    1257788

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Don't worry Johnydrama, that man has no love for Mullahoran, in fact he gave decisions against Mullahoran, including a goal for Ballinagh that should never have been allowed. He also plays hurling for Ballymachugh against Mullahoran regularly and let me tell you, he does not favour Mullahoran.

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2487 - 03/09/2012 10:23:28    1257815

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Don't worry Johnydrama, that man has no love for Mullahoran, in fact he gave decisions against Mullahoran, including a goal for Ballinagh that should never have been allowed. He also plays hurling for Ballymachugh against Mullahoran regularly and let me tell you, he does not favour Mullahoran.

Im basing my comment on what i heard, his decision making for both teams was not good at all, i feel he made more bad calls against ballinagh than mullahorn. but i stress even with that, ballinagh did not deserve to win the game!

johnydrama (Cavan) - Posts: 131 - 03/09/2012 10:36:15    1257827

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refereeing performances yet again dominate one of these forums! after being at the ballinagh v mullahorn and cavan gaels v killygarry games i would have to agree with the above complaints. Brendan sweeney use to play with mullahorn at underage level and therefore should never ref mullahorn games.

i do not put all the blame on the refs, ballinagh or cavan gaels did not perfrom in their respective games but refereeing decisions didnt help.
johnydrama , 03/09/2012 at 10:02


I think you are totally unfair to point a finger at the ref in either game. They were fair and honest and in fairness to Brendan he did not show any favouritism towards either team. Ballinagh have nothing to be upset by towards this man but they to like others need to reflect and ask why they lost and they will see it if they get hold of the video. You cannot miss simple chances and expect to win any watch. They Ballinagh had a game plan but when they allowed Mullahorn to kick that game plan into touch there was only going to be one winner, another bad senior game.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4602 - 03/09/2012 10:36:40    1257828

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refereeing performances yet again dominate one of these forums! after being at the ballinagh v mullahorn and cavan gaels v killygarry games i would have to agree with the above complaints. Brendan sweeney use to play with mullahorn at underage level and therefore should never ref mullahorn games.

i do not put all the blame on the refs, ballinagh or cavan gaels did not perfrom in their respective games but refereeing decisions didnt help.
johnydrama , 03/09/2012 at 10:02


I think you are totally unfair to point a finger at the ref in either game. They were fair and honest and in fairness to Brendan he did not show any favouritism towards either team. Ballinagh have nothing to be upset by towards this man but they to like others need to reflect and ask why they lost and they will see it if they get hold of the video. You cannot miss simple chances and expect to win any watch. They Ballinagh had a game plan but when they allowed Mullahorn to kick that game plan into touch there was only going to be one winner, another bad senior game.

Sean, in my posts before this i clearly state that the refereeing decisions didnt help BUT both teams (ballinagh/Gaels) did not deserve to win the either game. I think a lot of people would agree with my statement. Sean you are completely missing my point! in general referees in the county are bad, correct? and im merely highlighting the fact that in 2 of the big games of the weekend they were shown up. ballinaghs goal should never have been allowed, however they should of got a lot more frees than they did! Finally Sean i think i have to stress to you again, i am not saying that either team lost because of the referee, but it didnt help, Clear?

johnydrama (Cavan) - Posts: 131 - 03/09/2012 10:51:34    1257847

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johnydrama , 03/09/2012 at 10:51


I understand what you are saying and by saying it you are deflecting away from the teams them self's. The goal made no difference for the match was over anyway.

It must be remembered here that the refs did not pick them self's to do the job and in their defence they did a fair job. Not easy to see everything on the field of play and off the field of play as well. I did not realise that Jimmy Galligan from Killygarry was not doing the job anymore a big loss to the refs panel as is Brian Crowe or is Brian still refereeing ??.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4602 - 03/09/2012 11:01:49    1257858

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Thats fine Johny, I agree that he was not good on the day, and he was bad for both sides, but being slightly biased, I thought he gave slightly more to Ballinagh and the big decision in the match was the goal - Mullahoran were leading by 2 point in injury time at the end of the first half, the ball was played into towards the goal and Killian Brady was manhandled to the ground. Ref let play go and Ballinagh got the goal. Fair play to Mullahoran, they battled and restricted Ballinagh to two points and done enough to grind out the win. Ballinagh missed numerous frees in front of goal that you would normally put your house on. Mullahoran deserved their win.

By the way, shame on the Ballinagh bench - they took the wrong dug-outs, they entered the field of play numerous times and their water carriers were squirting Mullahoran players from along the sideline. Something needs to be done about this.

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2487 - 03/09/2012 11:15:30    1257885

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johnydrama , 03/09/2012 at 10:51


I understand what you are saying and by saying it you are deflecting away from the teams them self's. The goal made no difference for the match was over anyway.

It must be remembered here that the refs did not pick them self's to do the job and in their defence they did a fair job. Not easy to see everything on the field of play and off the field of play as well. I did not realise that Jimmy Galligan from Killygarry was not doing the job anymore a big loss to the refs panel as is Brian Crowe or is Brian still refereeing ??.

Sean the ballinagh goal was just before half time so the game was hardly over seeing as it put them into the lead! all im trying to say is, if a player doesnt perform well, whether the team win or lose, he is slated for his performance! therefor then same should go for a referee should it not? i do not think brian referee's any more, i have not seen him ref this year or even last!

johnydrama (Cavan) - Posts: 131 - 03/09/2012 11:17:27    1257887

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Brian Crowe has refed matchs this year. All players want is consistency and this was not evident over the two matchs been discussed. On Saturday night the behaviour of the Ballinagh water boy was a disgrace and the linesman did nothing. The Gaels should move on yes you were done out of a goal and point but the best thing the club could do is to deal with the people who repeatly let you down when decisions go against you and damage the clubs reputation. We're the refs accessed this weekend?

evano11 (Cavan) - Posts: 266 - 03/09/2012 11:42:00    1257925

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Interesting to see the Gaels v mullahoran match on Wednesday night is been reffed by one James Clarke the same man who officiated at yesterday's match

evano11 (Cavan) - Posts: 266 - 03/09/2012 11:57:56    1257946

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