i wasnt at the denn mountnugent game and am not connected to either club. .but from what ive heard from both camps it seems to me that the incident denn are referring to was by no means "unprovoked". were there any neutrals at the game can shed some light on it.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5331 - 30/05/2012 10:54:49    1183454

Martin (Frank) Cahill

Not gonna comment on the incident...

Huge loss for Denn & football rarely will such commitment from a club player anymore. Definately clubs favourite player & leader & we wish him a speedy recovery!!

Denn Man (Cavan) - Posts: 413 - 30/05/2012 11:24:09    1183488

i wasnt at the denn mountnugent game and am not connected to either club. .but from what ive heard from both camps it seems to me that the incident denn are referring to was by no means "unprovoked". were there any neutrals at the game can shed some light on it.
cavanman47 , 30/05/2012 at 10:54

he was only trying to break up a fracas with his brother and another player who shall remain nameless, while trying to break it up another person gave Martin an elbow cowardly act what a shame for he is one of our more honest players.

theforgottenman (Cavan) - Posts: 234 - 30/05/2012 12:19:28    1183560

if it was unprovoked why was 2 players from each team sent off.
pity for Martin though, lets hope he returns soon.

milhouse (Cavan) - Posts: 469 - 30/05/2012 14:51:28    1183727

yea sounds like it was a small scuffle with an unfortunate injury resulting from it. i actually think denn are taking a risk mentioning players' names online like that.

here here milhouse, wishing martin a speedy recovery.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5331 - 30/05/2012 14:58:05    1183737

terrible injury for any player but very sorry for Martin. One of the most committed players in the county.

laflour (Cavan) - Posts: 528 - 30/05/2012 15:38:07    1183782

@cavanman to be honest i think hoganstand are taking risks writing such articles, they spoke to someone who is ovb annoyed over his players injury and who is in no position to give a nuteral account of the incident, they article should be taken down until their "reporters" get some hard evidence

milhouse (Cavan) - Posts: 469 - 30/05/2012 16:09:55    1183818

Millhouse

Maybe you should stay off the topic... I think your trying to turn it into a public rant. It is what it is in laymans terms for ya!

D ont even reply. We ll have bit a banter again on a differant issue..

Denn Man

Denn Man (Cavan) - Posts: 413 - 30/05/2012 16:26:29    1183838

I'm not a constant poster o this site. However I was a neutral at the game in crosskeys on Sunday. A very unfortunate and ugly injury has occured but thos is my take on it which is contrary to both this site and the anglo celt of today.

The game was not dirty. An incident occured when the denn fb tried to man handle mountnugents main main (not for the first time this player was targetted throughout the game.) A pushing-shoving game insued between the pair when the unfortunate Cahill ran all of 15yards to become involved. He wasnt going to ask the mountnugent man for his phone number. As he ran members from both teams became involved. He was unfortunate to be struck with a BOX in the fracas which involved almost every player on the field. there were a lot more blows struck throughout the row but there was only one unfortunate injury. However that does not take away from cahill that it is a very unsavouty moment. However to label mountnugent as the only villans in this row is a bit unfair from my point of view. the fracas happened, Cahill got hurt and more could have been hurt. Denn are no saints and neither are mountnugent. Denn just appear to have the best PR team in this whole thing.

honthedunlops (Cavan) - Posts: 6 - 30/05/2012 17:54:38    1183934

I'm not a constant poster o this site. However I was a neutral at the game in crosskeys on Sunday. A very unfortunate and ugly injury has occured but thos is my take on it which is contrary to both this site and the anglo celt of today.

The game was not dirty. An incident occured when the denn fb tried to man handle mountnugents main main (not for the first time this player was targetted throughout the game.) A pushing-shoving game insued between the pair when the unfortunate Cahill ran all of 15yards to become involved. He wasnt going to ask the mountnugent man for his phone number. As he ran members from both teams became involved. He was unfortunate to be struck with a BOX in the fracas which involved almost every player on the field. there were a lot more blows struck throughout the row but there was only one unfortunate injury. However that does not take away from cahill that it is a very unsavouty moment. However to label mountnugent as the only villans in this row is a bit unfair from my point of view. the fracas happened, Cahill got hurt and more could have been hurt. Denn are no saints and neither are mountnugent. Denn just appear to have the best PR team in this whole thing.
honthedunlops , 30/05/2012 at 17:54

you say you are a neutral I doubt this very much for your accounts of the incident are totally incorrect. The person that was involved in the fracas was martins brother and your accusation towards martin are totally incorrect. He ran to intervene no more and you saying he got a box is untrue he got an elbow and if you were there and you say you were as a neutral well my opinion your post is a biased post and I would say you were a Mountnugent person. ?? I expect this is going legal and the less said the better,

theforgottenman (Cavan) - Posts: 234 - 30/05/2012 19:26:58    1184012

A Kildallan player had is jaw broke last year against mountnugent in a throw up. The county board should take action against them to stamp out this crack before it happens again. In the current times it's hard enough to get work without missing loads through assault on the football field. Throw the book at them

madmax11 (Cavan) - Posts: 9 - 30/05/2012 19:43:16    1184024

madmax11
County: Cavan
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A Kildallan player had is jaw broke last year against mountnugent in a throw up. The county board should take action against them to stamp out this crack before it happens again. In the current times it's hard enough to get work without missing loads through assault on the football field. Throw the book at them

I second that

CavanAgain (Cavan) - Posts: 196 - 30/05/2012 20:06:43    1184045

Denn man in fairness Milhouse has a point you are avoiding, two denn players were also sent off..indicating an equal sided row with one player coming out significantly worse than another?! Come on, we all know what Denn are like as well as Mountnugent. I think anyone can see as a neutral that this is obviosly Denn v M.Nugent on the story. Mountnugent are going to stick up for their man as Denn are going to condemn him. Either way, in these situations people rarely intend on causing significant harm to the opposition mearly an act of stupidity and "hothead" moments. I'm sure the Mountnugent player is not innocent, but I'm also sure, neither was Cahill!
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HasToBeDone (Cavan) - Posts: 69 - 30/05/2012 20:57:21    1184086

well done madmax, the award for silliest post of the year. wise up will ya, mountnugent arent involved in any more incidents a year than any other club

milhouse (Cavan) - Posts: 469 - 30/05/2012 21:18:44    1184109

I too am an infrequent poster but was also a neutral at the game and honthegallops has given a very accurate account of events.

Throughout the game Givney was been given a lot of attention by Denn but nothing more than any county player would expect at club level. A high ball was played in from the sideline and when it went wide an altercation broke out between Givney and the Denn full back which led to the majority of players running in and a lot of jostling took place which ended up with Cahill on the ground receiving attention. I must say though barring Cahills injury that it really wasn't the free for all that some are suggesting and things had settled down within a minute or too. From where I was standing the whole incident stemmed from the incident involving Givney and the Denn full back so both teams were responsible for their players running in. I don't agree with the Denns official comments been posted on the main page as neither club should be commenting on the incident until the county board have reviewed the referees report.

In any case I hope Martin makes a swift recovery is back playing soon and I'm sure that the Mountnugent player will be in contact with Martin to offer his apologies soon if he hasn't already done so.

I don't know of Mountnugents past misdemeanours but in relation to the comment that a Kildallan player had his jaw broke during a throw up in a game last year against Mountnugent, did the referee send the Mountnugent player off as it would've happened straight in front of him if it happened during a throw up?

This particular incident has received a lot of attention within the county although I believe a row broke out at the end of the Belturbet Castlerahan game after the referee had taken the wrong score and a player from Killinkere also received a broken jaw in a similar incident during a league match a few weeks ago which doesn't seem to have got any coverage at all.

It will be interesting to see what view the county board will have on it all. I'd imagine all 4 players sent off will get a month anyway.

Total_Football (Cavan) - Posts: 69 - 31/05/2012 08:14:45    1184155

The ref had to take desisive action after the incident. So two players from both sides got gate. To quell the mood & finish the game which had 15 mins left. I would nt read into the sending offs...

Please don t place Denn in same bracket as Mountnugent with regards to Disipline. Denn have a very good disipline record & i can t remember the last suspension maybe Jim Keogan back in the 90 s..

It also seems to be the lower the divisions the higher the tackle. Think county board should look @ that.

Denn Man (Cavan) - Posts: 413 - 31/05/2012 10:12:16    1184221

quit whinging and take it like a man!

wishfulthinkin (Cavan) - Posts: 1750 - 31/05/2012 11:45:11    1184313

as a neutral attending the game to view tactics of both teams for upcoming games, i was appauled by the incident but credit must go to the mountnugent physio who went to the aid of the injured denn player. perhaps an example of what sport should be about

StirringIt (Cavan) - Posts: 374 - 31/05/2012 12:53:06    1184371

ok, so having got a few neutral points of view it looks like a typical incident that you will see in 90% of games up and down the country every weekend, the difference being an unfortunate injury occurred causing the referee to panic and send off 4 players in an attempt to finish the game quietly - which it did, so well done to both teams on that front.

4 straight reds = 4 4week bans each. not sure of the details of each sending off but i guess the referee felt he had to be seen to do something considering such a bad injury was suffered.

again i would like to wish martin a speedy recovery.

hopefully thats the end of it

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5331 - 31/05/2012 13:02:00    1184385

Lot of Nucleurs i mean Nuetrals..

Some Venue

Denn Man (Cavan) - Posts: 413 - 31/05/2012 13:41:11    1184448