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Selling or moving from PT would never be an option for me, we have the scope and space to redevelop a stadium that already has motorway access and God willing will in the coming years have rail access also, all the boxes are ticked. I agree with the opinion that H&S must work by some strange rules and regulations if they consider the grass banks more of a risk than the stand, particularly at the O'Mahoneys end which has some barriers and is a smaller area, that's not to say said grass banks shouldnt have been properly terraced years ago when we were riding high and successful and when money would have been easier gathered, the place was left as is too long sfter the 87/88 job and never really furthered and now we have a huge job to do to bring it up to spec.
Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3743 - 27/03/2023 17:06:04
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Replying To Richieq: "Selling or moving from PT would never be an option for me, we have the scope and space to redevelop a stadium that already has motorway access and God willing will in the coming years have rail access also, all the boxes are ticked. I agree with the opinion that H&S must work by some strange rules and regulations if they consider the grass banks more of a risk than the stand, particularly at the O'Mahoneys end which has some barriers and is a smaller area, that's not to say said grass banks shouldnt have been properly terraced years ago when we were riding high and successful and when money would have been easier gathered, the place was left as is too long sfter the 87/88 job and never really furthered and now we have a huge job to do to bring it up to spec." Have you ever been in pairc Tailteann, the place is surrounded by houses the motorway is 3 miles away and the access to it is 3/3 mile away through housing estates and narrow roads. Sell the bloody thing and move to a green field sight. We need to move forward and stop living in the past.
latouche25 (Meath) - Posts: 532 - 27/03/2023 22:03:34
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Replying To CastleBravo: "It's a good job some of ye don't work in planning.
Ye reckon Navan has unbearable traffic conditions for the 5 games a year that get a big crowd, but building an enormous car park in Dunganny so that thousands of cars can try cram their way one by one onto a busy 100km/h single carriageway is somehow a good idea?" You are 100% right, two years ago for the Senior relegation game between O' Mahony's and Dunshaughlin in Dunganny, the game was delayed for nearly half an hour because of the long tailbacks on the road into Dunganny and there was hardly even one thousand attending the game.
Meathball (Meath) - Posts: 140 - 28/03/2023 07:35:34
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Replying To latouche25: "Have you ever been in pairc Tailteann, the place is surrounded by houses the motorway is 3 miles away and the access to it is 3/3 mile away through housing estates and narrow roads. Sell the bloody thing and move to a green field sight. We need to move forward and stop living in the past." I'm not going to even attempt to dignify that contribution with a decent response
Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3743 - 29/03/2023 09:00:58
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Have the co board released any futher plans on what their next move is?
The last correspondence last July was very very vague... they are putting it on hold due to rise in material costs... thats past, our costs in work for Steel & diesel as back to pre ukraine spike costs. Concrete is rising, but at raw cement level, so that wont be coming back, so it doesnt really make sense to leave it parked any longer if that had been the only reason??
Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6347 - 30/03/2023 13:39:47
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Replying To Jinxie: "Have the co board released any futher plans on what their next move is?
The last correspondence last July was very very vague... they are putting it on hold due to rise in material costs... thats past, our costs in work for Steel & diesel as back to pre ukraine spike costs. Concrete is rising, but at raw cement level, so that wont be coming back, so it doesnt really make sense to leave it parked any longer if that had been the only reason??" Like to know this myself
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 30/03/2023 17:42:58
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I'd prefer progress on the field than off. Share your frustrations though
seasiderblues (Meath) - Posts: 352 - 08/04/2023 17:59:13
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Replying To seasiderblues: "I'd prefer progress on the field than off. Share your frustrations though" As would we all, still that doesn't mean we have to experience facilities from the dark ages when we attend matches in Navan
Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3743 - 12/04/2023 10:37:15
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Somebody(bodies) within the Co Board were appointed to a committee to oversee this redevelopment & so far all I can see is that they paid a vast amount of money to a consultant & not a single thing has happened or even come close to happening since. The never produced a proposed commencement date or completion date or anything in between...
Someone is absolutley getting away with one here & nobody in co board seem to be keeping tabs on it or asking any relevant questions.
Surely as GAA Members within the county, who pay membership which goes towards levies to fund our co Board, we shouldn't have to fight so hard to get basic updates on what's happening with the largest piece of infrastructure we have..
Its very frustrating to see the pace & timeframe at which the Louth & Kidare projects hare moving at, when we had originally started way in advance of both...
Should such a major project not be given a status update slot at every co Board meeting, and an opportunity to ask questions or discuss it? Instead the chairman can shut the conversation down & say theres no update & just move on... Should we be expected to just accept that?
We ALL have a stake & vested interest in this. Its a huge part of our Gaelic identity within the county & a huge factor in enticing younger people & kids, particularly young girls, to games there & encouraging their uptake & interest in Gaelic Games within the county.
Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6347 - 12/04/2023 13:27:23
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Replying To Jinxie: "Somebody(bodies) within the Co Board were appointed to a committee to oversee this redevelopment & so far all I can see is that they paid a vast amount of money to a consultant & not a single thing has happened or even come close to happening since. The never produced a proposed commencement date or completion date or anything in between...
Someone is absolutley getting away with one here & nobody in co board seem to be keeping tabs on it or asking any relevant questions.
Surely as GAA Members within the county, who pay membership which goes towards levies to fund our co Board, we shouldn't have to fight so hard to get basic updates on what's happening with the largest piece of infrastructure we have..
Its very frustrating to see the pace & timeframe at which the Louth & Kidare projects hare moving at, when we had originally started way in advance of both...
Should such a major project not be given a status update slot at every co Board meeting, and an opportunity to ask questions or discuss it? Instead the chairman can shut the conversation down & say theres no update & just move on... Should we be expected to just accept that?
We ALL have a stake & vested interest in this. Its a huge part of our Gaelic identity within the county & a huge factor in enticing younger people & kids, particularly young girls, to games there & encouraging their uptake & interest in Gaelic Games within the county." Absolutely. Well said.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 12/04/2023 18:47:45
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Replying To Jinxie: "Somebody(bodies) within the Co Board were appointed to a committee to oversee this redevelopment & so far all I can see is that they paid a vast amount of money to a consultant & not a single thing has happened or even come close to happening since. The never produced a proposed commencement date or completion date or anything in between...
Someone is absolutley getting away with one here & nobody in co board seem to be keeping tabs on it or asking any relevant questions.
Surely as GAA Members within the county, who pay membership which goes towards levies to fund our co Board, we shouldn't have to fight so hard to get basic updates on what's happening with the largest piece of infrastructure we have..
Its very frustrating to see the pace & timeframe at which the Louth & Kidare projects hare moving at, when we had originally started way in advance of both...
Should such a major project not be given a status update slot at every co Board meeting, and an opportunity to ask questions or discuss it? Instead the chairman can shut the conversation down & say theres no update & just move on... Should we be expected to just accept that?
We ALL have a stake & vested interest in this. Its a huge part of our Gaelic identity within the county & a huge factor in enticing younger people & kids, particularly young girls, to games there & encouraging their uptake & interest in Gaelic Games within the county." Very true. The problem as I see is that from the outset they were far too ambitious with the project, it sounds like John Delaney came up with the plan!! The stand needs to be knocked and rebuilt, with modern dressing room and toilet facilities. There is no need to go near the terrace at this stage. Obviously get the lights sorted out straight away, as far as I am aware the lights were put on the long finger because of the proposed development, they have been down about 10 years now...which is nothing short of a disgrace. Meath underage teams have forfeited home advantage on a number of occasions as a result.
Building a multi million development and putting clubs under pressure to help fund the development is crazy, money would be better spent improving underage structures and trying to bring Meath football back up to the top table.
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Replying To Thunderstruck: "Very true. The problem as I see is that from the outset they were far too ambitious with the project, it sounds like John Delaney came up with the plan!! The stand needs to be knocked and rebuilt, with modern dressing room and toilet facilities. There is no need to go near the terrace at this stage. Obviously get the lights sorted out straight away, as far as I am aware the lights were put on the long finger because of the proposed development, they have been down about 10 years now...which is nothing short of a disgrace. Meath underage teams have forfeited home advantage on a number of occasions as a result.
Building a multi million development and putting clubs under pressure to help fund the development is crazy, money would be better spent improving underage structures and trying to bring Meath football back up to the top table." Unless your plan is limited to some new toilets, any development worth doing in Páirc Tailteann is going to be a multi-million euro development. For a new stand you're talking 8 figures.
Look at Tallaght Stadium. A single stand at the end of a soccer pitch, with no dressing rooms or anything, built on empty land cost them €10 Million. A stand the length of Páirc Tailteann, including dressing rooms etc. plus demolition of the existing stand will cost multiples of that.
CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1664 - 13/04/2023 12:53:55
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Replying To CastleBravo: "Unless your plan is limited to some new toilets, any development worth doing in Páirc Tailteann is going to be a multi-million euro development. For a new stand you're talking 8 figures.
Look at Tallaght Stadium. A single stand at the end of a soccer pitch, with no dressing rooms or anything, built on empty land cost them €10 Million. A stand the length of Páirc Tailteann, including dressing rooms etc. plus demolition of the existing stand will cost multiples of that." Let's give up on it so!!
ASaminthehand (Meath) - Posts: 422 - 13/04/2023 20:20:54
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Replying To ASaminthehand: " Replying To CastleBravo: "Unless your plan is limited to some new toilets, any development worth doing in Páirc Tailteann is going to be a multi-million euro development. For a new stand you're talking 8 figures.
Look at Tallaght Stadium. A single stand at the end of a soccer pitch, with no dressing rooms or anything, built on empty land cost them €10 Million. A stand the length of Páirc Tailteann, including dressing rooms etc. plus demolition of the existing stand will cost multiples of that." Let's give up on it so!!"
CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1664 - 14/04/2023 09:52:24
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Replying To CastleBravo: " Replying To ASaminthehand: "[quote=CastleBravo: "Unless your plan is limited to some new toilets, any development worth doing in Páirc Tailteann is going to be a multi-million euro development. For a new stand you're talking 8 figures.
Look at Tallaght Stadium. A single stand at the end of a soccer pitch, with no dressing rooms or anything, built on empty land cost them €10 Million. A stand the length of Páirc Tailteann, including dressing rooms etc. plus demolition of the existing stand will cost multiples of that." Let's give up on it so!!"
winatallcost (Meath) - Posts: 587 - 14/04/2023 17:46:49
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Anyone know the status of this project?, seems to be a bit like the floodlights in that they can't get off the ground.
AthboyCelt (Meath) - Posts: 148 - 04/05/2023 09:43:45
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Replying To winatallcost: " Replying To CastleBravo: "[quote=ASaminthehand: "[quote=CastleBravo: "Unless your plan is limited to some new toilets, any development worth doing in Páirc Tailteann is going to be a multi-million euro development. For a new stand you're talking 8 figures.
Look at Tallaght Stadium. A single stand at the end of a soccer pitch, with no dressing rooms or anything, built on empty land cost them €10 Million. A stand the length of Páirc Tailteann, including dressing rooms etc. plus demolition of the existing stand will cost multiples of that." Let's give up on it so!!"
Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 640 - 04/05/2023 10:46:15
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Replying To AthboyCelt: "Anyone know the status of this project?, seems to be a bit like the floodlights in that they can't get off the ground." Like a hole in the ground, they have somebody looking into it.
Seriously though I really think that this project won't advance until the old 'never say die' atmosphere previously associated with our county teams returns and we get a passionate driver on the county board. Also the project has to be realistic. Thus far the proposals are literally off the wall. Excuse the language but what really ****** people off was that the proposed demolition of the Brew's Hill terrace would be carried out first. Complete stupidity as it is the one part of the stadium that currently meets modern requirements.
There is also a feeling that other outside bodies are pushing the demolition of the above terrace and no organisation likes unnecessary interference from outsiders.
MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1080 - 04/05/2023 10:52:51
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Why don't Meath just close Pairc Tailteann and 'rent' Croke Park for all our home games like Dublin do and don't bother spending millions on a stadium of our own and instead plough all our money into underage.
Dublin have not had to spend a penny on developing stadiums or training grounds which have all been handed to them by Croke Park and DCU. While counties like Meath and Mayo have/will have to rack up millions of debt to build a stadium and training ground of their own. This is what has currently happened in the GAA today and is an absolute disgrace. By right the GAA/Croke Park should be funding a new stadium for Meath going by what they have handed to Dublin for the past ten years or more.
BigJoe14 (Meath) - Posts: 997 - 04/05/2023 12:17:37
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Replying To BigJoe14: "Why don't Meath just close Pairc Tailteann and 'rent' Croke Park for all our home games like Dublin do and don't bother spending millions on a stadium of our own and instead plough all our money into underage.
Dublin have not had to spend a penny on developing stadiums or training grounds which have all been handed to them by Croke Park and DCU. While counties like Meath and Mayo have/will have to rack up millions of debt to build a stadium and training ground of their own. This is what has currently happened in the GAA today and is an absolute disgrace. By right the GAA/Croke Park should be funding a new stadium for Meath going by what they have handed to Dublin for the past ten years or more." As for using Croke Park - why not use it.... It is vacant most of the year, however the low attendance figures from your fans would end up costing you in the pocket, and not cover the cost of renting Croke Park and cost of insurance for your games there...!
Dublin now own 2 sites - 1 northside and 1 southside - both available for future development.
The sooner they do it the better imo. Hopefully the new sponsor will accelerate both.
I would also sell PP and use the funds from this to build our own stadium and put an end to all the nonsense once and for all.
Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3983 - 04/05/2023 14:27:45
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