TownJohnT (Meath) - Posts: 83 - 06/08/2024 08:39:55    2563964

torres710 (Meath) - Posts: 23 - 06/08/2024 10:15:57    2563976

so your saying a Kells or Tones dual player at the minute is going to be putting as much effort and commitment into the senior football as the intermediate hurling? come on now! give them a choice of a Keegan Cup or an intermediate hurling championship and we all know what the answer would be.

dickie10 (UK) - Posts: 747 - 06/08/2024 14:21:24    2564029

Round 4

SHC
Group A
Kildalkey vs St Peters: Nothing I've seen so far will convince me that this is going to be anything other than a cricket score. Kildalkey by 23.

Kilmessan vs Trim: The stand out tie of the weekend for me. Trim have been putting up big scores against the weaker teams and are looking good, but Kilmessan will still have eyes on a surprise. Trim by 3.

CNG vs Dunderry
Comes down to whether Dunderry can avoid stupid frees, because between O Donnacha and Ennis, CNG can really hurt them. CNG by 6.

Group B

Killyon vs BHG
Time for BHG to **** or get off the pot. Need to show something, anything to give them hope for the "SHC B" grade given that need to win out to make quarters. Not happening. Killyon by 4.

Ratoath vs Longwood
Another one where it could be a cricket score. Ratoath by 17.

Na Fianna vs Kiltale
I must have taken a funny turn earlier this week when I had a thought that there could be an upset here. Kiltale by 13.

IHC

Group A
Gaeil Colmcille vs Donaghmore/Ashbourne:
Navan have top spot secured but this is almost a knockout game for the loser given the Drumree situation too. Winner will have one foot in the quarters. Ashbourne could be rusty having not had a game last time out, that is a worry. Kells by 1.

NOM vs Drumree:
O Mahonys were slow to start against Ashbourne but have really hit their stride now. Drumree quite poor against Kells so need a result to get confidence, could come down to them and Ashbourne for last spot. NOM by 8.

Group B
Kildalkey vs St Pat's:
Similar to the SHC for Nick Fitz and friends - a question of how many they win by. Kildalkey by 31.

Boardsmill vs Kilskyre/Moylagh
K/M have Pats in last round, so they will get to 4 regardless. Kildalkey can get to an absolute max of 6 but have the head to head over K/M, so K/M need a win here and a big score to give them hopes of top 3. I think they'll get one of the two. K/M by 3.

Rathmolyon vs Trim 2:
Rathmolyon are motoring. Another easy game for them here. Rathmolyon by 8.

RR (Meath) - Posts: 157 - 15/08/2024 09:49:48    2565195

Round 4

SHC
Group A
Kildalkey vs St Peters: Dunboyne heading for a relegation battle, Kildalkey starting to pick up pace heading for the knockouts. Kildalkey by 20

Kilmessan vs Trim: Kilmessan will want to keep testing these big teams if they want a chance in the knockouts of senior A. Trim are playing the best hurling of any team and will show kilmessan where they need to be. Trim by 9

CNG vs Dunderry
The last two defeats will really hurt dunderry, going to be hard for them to lift themselves. Cng will take advantage of this vulnerability. CnG BY 6

Group B

Killyon vs BHG
BHG will always throw up a shock result somewhere in the championship to keep hopes alive. Going to give them the nod here, think they can edge out a killyon team who may think they are better than they are. BHG by 1

Ratoath vs Longwood
Ratoath will be thereabouts come the semi finals again this year, they will ease past longwood here who put a lot of effort into the football last weekend. Ratoath by 15

Na Fianna vs Kiltale
NaFianna on the struggle bus and if they are not careful they will be on the way down. Kiltale will get the job done as they usually do. Kiltale by 12

IHC

Group A
Gaeil Colmcille vs Donaghmore/Ashbourne:
Kells seem to have a better eye on the hurling this year than they normally would, They have a great chance of a qtr final with a win here and may drive them on, Can see a tight game. Kells by 2

NOM vs Drumree:
Will navan lay off the gas a little bit giving the position they are in. Drumree have taken a step backwards from previous years, cant see them getting a result here. NoM by 5

Group B
Kildalkey vs St Pat's:
St Pats are starting to tighten up defensively but their scoring power lacks big time. Still only one winner, Kildalkey BY 15

Boardsmill vs Kilskyre/Moylagh
K/M really hit hard by losing to kildalkey when Boardsmill and Rathmolyan have beaten them. K/M need a win here to have any chance of advancing. Boardsmill will know they can knock K/M out with a draw or win. Boardsmill are a hard team to beat in championship Hurling and always find something extra in these type of games. Going for a draw and K/M to WIN the B

Rathmolyon vs Trim 2:
Trim struggling big time with their second team I hear and are pullling players for a digout who havent touched a hurl in years. Music to rathmolyons ears. Rathmolyon by 33

BrokenStickz (Meath) - Posts: 8 - 15/08/2024 11:31:13    2565220

A big weekend of nothing games really and not expecting any upsets.
My only hope is that the few outside referees that we have seen over the last few rounds can bring a few of their friends with them, its been refreshing to see the way they take charge of games.

Tobefair80 (Meath) - Posts: 64 - 15/08/2024 11:37:27    2565224

ParcT (Meath) - Posts: 13 - 15/08/2024 13:49:33    2565269

How many of these games actually matter?
Will we see a lot of players save themselves for Football championship the following week?

Can we just have an open draw with Kildalkey, Kiltale, Ratoath and Trim to see who plays who in the semi final and save everyone the time.

mlc800 (Meath) - Posts: 55 - 15/08/2024 16:55:46    2565303

What a waste of time last night In Trim. Anyone see the game.
Big game tonight at 6pm. Welcome Clubber.

ParcT (Meath) - Posts: 13 - 17/08/2024 15:36:13    2565585

Selwyn (Meath) - Posts: 378 - 17/08/2024 15:54:22    2565586

Selwyn (Meath) - Posts: 378 - 17/08/2024 16:04:33    2565590

I think they refer to Kildalkey winning by 30 something points. Wasn't at it but heard it was one of the snakes t crowds at a senior hurling game with Kildalkey in a long time. Hard to blame anyone not going out of their way to look at a turkey shoot at 6 pm on a weeknight .the county board have created a shocking farce of a competition. I presume next year they will go for senior A and B . The only other way to do it would be 2 groups of 4 . But that means relegating 4 teams from senior . Hopefully if they do the group of 6 they make it 50% progression. As in 3 teams out of 6 make knock out and not 4 teams . Top team get rewarded by getting straight to a final and 2 and 3 into a play off / semi final . 5 vs 6 in a relegation play off but if you wanted to get rid of that game the bottom team could just get relegated either. 4 teams out if 6 would mean a team with 1 win could potentially make a semi final and be in exactly the same position as a team that won all 5 games

dickie10 (UK) - Posts: 747 - 19/08/2024 20:45:41    2565887

does anyone think maybe its time to recognise Meath have 4 possibly 5 actual senior hurling clubs and ask if they can play a championship with 4/5 Westmeath teams of similar quality, also that any talk of senior B means intermediate and that this has worked to improve standards in other counties. senior hurling champ an absolute joke again this year.

fred2 (Meath) - Posts: 24 - 19/08/2024 23:28:58    2565911

Meath and Westmeath are totally different counties since 16th century! So bar we reunify them that's not happening. Everyone and the dog know there's only ever 3-4 senior hurling contenders and always is so it's not that different the killer is the lack of jeopardy. In 90s and early 00s it wasn't a big deal because only 2 out of 6 teams went through. Since they changed it to 3 and later 4 teams going through a lot of bite went out if championship for the string teams. They can cruise through the championship with 2 wins getting out of a group sometimes. Unfortunately turkeys won't vote for Christmas so there won't be mass relegation to bring it to 8 teams in senior . Probably 8 hurling teams across all championships would be ideal. There would less match's too considering so many dual players it might be no harm. I'd favour starting hurling cups in mid March and have no hurling before that as weather and ground conditions don't suit anyway.

dickie10 (UK) - Posts: 747 - 20/08/2024 16:52:47    2566039

Last weeked of the club hurling before knockouts. Loads of dead rubber games.

Senior Group A - Nobody safely through but you would expect Kildalkey, Trim & Kilmessan to pick up the wins required.

Trim V Dunboyne - Been tough for Dunboyne to date and surely Trim will blitz them by 12+ points.

Dunderry V Kilmessan - Kilmessan to keep the flag flying and runaway with a victory over Dundry. Kilmessan by 20+

Kildalkey V Clann na nGael - if Kildalkey lose theyll be demoted to the senior B competition on head to head against the Athboy men. Hard to see anything but a Kildalkey win here but I expect it to be nervy at times before eventually running away with it. Kildalkey by 12+

Senior Group B - Dead rubber galore

Kiltale V Longwood - not muh to play for and Longwood have been unlucky at times throughout the year (my favourites for Senior B ATM). They will put it up to Kiltale and run them close. Kiltale by 5+

Blackhall V Na Fianna - dead rubber game, Na Fianna by 10+

Ratoath V Killyon - to see who finishes 2nd in the group. Ratoath by 4+

Intermediate Group A - NOM, Drumree and Don/Ash all but guarentee themselves a place in the intermediate proper.

Don/Ash V Drumree - a win for Drumree will see them top the group on head to head v NOM, whereas Don/Ash have all but qualified for the Intermediate A quarter final. Don/Ash by 2

Kells v Wolfe Tones - dead rubber as both have already qualified for the intermediate B competition. The Kells men to win by 5+

Intermediate group B - Only Rathmoylon have guarenteed a knockout place for themselves. 3 teams fighting for the final two spots. Will come down to score difference imo.

Kilskyre/Moylagh V St Pats - Surely only one winner hear as the north Meath men have serious momentum after a huge win in the last round. KS/M by 15+
o
Rathmolyon V Boardsmill - Game of the weekend a win for the Mill will guarentee them top spot in the group, whereas if the village win they could knock their neighbours down to intermediate B. Rathmolyon have serious pace and youth so expect them to win by 7+

Trim V Kildalkey - Another hammering you would imagine. Kildalkey by 15+

Senior A draws if results go as favoured (give or take score difference)
1/4 finals

Killyon V Kilmessan
Kildalkey V Ratoath

Trim & Kiltale straight to semi finals

Senior B draws if results go as favoured (give or take score difference)
1/4 Finals
Na Fianna V Dunboyne
Blackhall Gaels V Dunderry

CnaG & Longwood straight to semi finals

Intermediate A draws if results go as favoured (give or take score difference)
1/4 finals

Don/Ash V Kildalkey
Kilskyre/Moylagh V Drumree

NOM & Rathmoylon straight to semis

Intermediate B draws if results go as favoured (give or take score difference)
1/4 finals

St Pats V Wolfe Tones
Trim to get a walkover from Dunboyne

Boardsmill & Kells straight to semi finals.

bountyboy22 (USA) - Posts: 33 - 28/08/2024 13:04:11    2567362

Senior is very open this year. Trim and Ratoath have the strongest teams but Kiltale are going about their business quietly. I wouldn't write kildalkey off either if they can get past Athboy.

Gaelic_Games (Meath) - Posts: 15 - 28/08/2024 15:58:14    2567397

Islander21 (Meath) - Posts: 19 - 28/08/2024 16:08:44    2567401

Omahony1 (Meath) - Posts: 1 - 28/08/2024 16:48:08    2567406

Senior Group A
Trim V Dunboyne - Could be more like a training session, Trim by 14.
Dunderry V Kilmessan - Kilmessan to keep on rolling over, them by 10.
Kildalkey V Clann na nGael - It would be one hell of an upset, but I don't think it's going to happen. Kildalkey by 6 in a closer game than many would think

Senior Group B -
Kiltale V Longwood - Can see Longwood sticking to Kiltale but fading away in last 10/15 mins. Kiltale by 8.
BNG v Na Fianna - How much will be shown here in terms of hands considering they could meet again in SHCB? Na Fianna by 4.
Ratoath V Killyon - This one could be entertaining - I'll go for Ratoath by 3.

IHC Group A
NOM and Don/Ash guaranteed at least a QF. Drumree could finish 1st, 3rd or 4th depending on results as they've H2H over NOM but not against Kells.

Don/Ash vs Drumree - Don/Ash are motoring nicely (especially with their best player out for the season), I'd imagine Drumree will be laser focused on top spot. Don/Ash by 1 in a belter.

Kells v Wolfe Tones - Kells will know they can still get through and that should be enough to see off Tones. Kells by 7.

IHC Group B
Similar to the other group, a lot of permutations here. Boardsmill will finish either top or 4th because of their score difference.

Kilskyre/Moylagh vs St Pats - Not sure if it will help Pats to stay up after a few hammerings by mercy of Dunboyne, but better to be at the level above I guess. K/M have better score difference than Kildalkey and I think this is going to be crucial. K/M by 19.

Kildalkey vs Trim - Kildalkey will win but they will need to win by at least 18 to throw over K/M and even then it might not be enough. Kildalkey by 21.

Rathomlyon vs Boardsmill - The decider in many ways. Rathmolyon have put up some big big scores, the opposite of B'Mill who've scored 60 and conceded 60. Which makes me think that the Mill have one massive performance in their armorery. Going for them by 2 to finish top and in the process, eliminate Kildalkey.


Which gives me, I think, a 1/4 final lineup of
SHC
Kilmessan vs Killyon
Kildalkey vs Ratoath
IHC
Don/Ash vs Rathmolyon
Kilskyre/Moylagh vs Navan O'Mahonys

RR (Meath) - Posts: 157 - 28/08/2024 18:42:47    2567425

im not sure there is an intermediate B cup at all. if kildalkey beat athboy its a mini league table between kildlakey , trim and kilmessan score difference

dickie10 (UK) - Posts: 747 - 28/08/2024 22:10:13    2567444