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Who said we erase all his good form ? I'm just saying to say he should be picked on current form is a bit odd. I'd rather he was picked to start based on how is performing in training currently and not because of the "super games" he had 3 weeks ago give or take. Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1003 - 21/02/2024 15:44:53 2527410 Link 0 |
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I don't want to be critical of Brennan as he made some good saves and I thought he did well when he played the fly goal keeper role but his kickouts were a big weakness the last day. His last 2 kickouts (maybe last one was a free) had us in all sorts of bother especially last one where he just lobbed into the air. The frantic nature of the last minute or 2 were down to these kickouts. Brennan's kick outs have to improve if he is to remain in goal for me. bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1400 - 21/02/2024 16:06:19 2527416 Link 2 |
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It's already blatantly obvious Murphy isn't a corner back . Need to get him out of there asap southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 937 - 22/02/2024 06:52:15 2527473 Link 3 |
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Agree, I think Brian O'Halloran is easily the best option but O'Rourke has been on record saying he wants the under 20s playing under 20s which is starting up in a few weeks. I recall Andy mcentee saying something similar with Cathal Hickey and Matthew Costello a few years ago but he ended taking them from the 20s. I'll be interested to see how this plays out.
Sheridan2010louth (Meath) - Posts: 181 - 22/02/2024 08:56:17 2527488 Link 0 |
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Former Meath coach Colm Nally is involved with Kildare. We struggled big time on kickouts when he was the coach for Meath and Kildare seem to be having the same issues. Thankfully we have a higher standard of goalkeeper now but also seems to be better kickout strategies the last 2 years. royal11 (Meath) - Posts: 102 - 22/02/2024 10:27:35 2527507 Link 1 |
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He only took them after the agreed time frame had been reached.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 22/02/2024 10:38:25 2527513 Link 0 |
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I dont think the 20s management were agreeing for their best 2 players Costello and Hickey not to play a leinster u20 semi final against Dublin because of their senior involvement. This is not a shot at Andy as Costello and hickey were important members of the senior panel that year, I wish he was still the Meath manager.
Sheridan2010louth (Meath) - Posts: 181 - 22/02/2024 11:51:23 2527525 Link 0 |
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Looking back McEntee did well as manager overall but after 6 years it was definitely time for a new voice and a overhaul of the Meath squad. Looking back now McEntee stayed on at least a year too long but I would put most of the blame for this on the county board and the crazy way they waited till the last minute to try to get rid of him in his last season. COR still deserves a shot at making a success of being Meath manager in what is a new phase of Meath football when you look at the age profile of the squad. bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1400 - 22/02/2024 15:43:14 2527585 Link 2 |
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Another new phase in Meath football with a young team?? Ive been hearing that for years! That talk has got to stop. Very easy for new managers to bring in a bunch of young lads and use it as an excuse to say it will take years. young lads will not win yo games and if they are not coached right they wont win you games in the future either!! We have gone through some amount of young lads in the last 10 years and where are they now? Whats to say this will be any different? Ill say it again and again, if Jack O Connor and his backroom team or Mickey H and his backroom team or Mcguinness and his were over this meath team we would be in the hunt for Div 2 now. young lads will come and go because they are not winning anything so no incentive to stay. We need to start winning proper competitions (leagues, leinsters etc..) and then we will have a good team with every young lad in the county will be mad to play! And to win proper competitions COR needs coaches around him that know how to do that. Or else we need a manager that can give us and more importantly the players that! Senior intercounty football is not about developing young lads! its about striving to win championships here and now. And if you think that way you shouldn't be in the business! JonnieG (Meath) - Posts: 246 - 22/02/2024 16:21:21 2527590 Link 0 |
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I disagree with you on some things. But on this you are 100% right. Look at the lads not on panel that could have helped these young lads out. I mean it was getting to a stage of spin the bottle to see who gets the 6 jersey while an experienced 6 is sitting at home. And then use the excuse that we have a young team.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 22/02/2024 19:20:00 2527608 Link 0 |
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I agree with him as well. Youth all well and good but you can't beat experience. We keep discarding players in favour of youngster who then get cast quickly aside just as quick for the next u20 coming through. In my opinion we have 3 potentially all star class players in Gray, Costelloe and Flynn, to go with Keoghan who is already all star class. McBride has potential here too. That to my mind is enough when you add in all the other talent in the county. A Jim McGuinness with those ingredients at his disposal would have us in Div 1 and better than likes of Armagh. Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 1352 - 22/02/2024 19:48:19 2527614 Link 2 |
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Sometimes a big turn over of players is needed at the same time. McEntee came in in 2017 and had worked with a group of players for a few years who, after a bit of time had got to division 1 (promoted in 2019) and super 8s (2019). When we got to division 1 and super 8s we were out of depth but it was further than we to get for a good while. The team was in decline after this. By 2023 the whole thing needed to be freshened up, we got a new manager and it was the right time to overhaul the squad. That's why the age profile of the current team is very low. It's unlikely we will have the same turnover of players in such a short timeframe again for a good few years. Also it's not fair to write off the coaching team so early in the season. bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1400 - 22/02/2024 20:27:04 2527618 Link 3 |
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I'm not buying into the whole age profile issue, Keoghan, Ryan, O Sullivan, Jones, Campion, Walsh have all been involved for the last 5 years and have plenty of experience at inter county level. I think they all played in division 1 and super 8s so they have gone up against the top teams. UsernameInvalid (Meath) - Posts: 403 - 22/02/2024 22:09:33 2527626 Link 1 |
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Going back I initially responded to a post who said they wished Andy was still manager by saying that while McEntee did well by 2023 after 6 years that group was in decline and we needed to overhaul the setup last year, player wise and management wise. Had someone else other than COR come in after Andy I would have expected them to overhaul the panel also, it was badly needed at the time. JonnieG then said we have turned over too many players in last 10 years, I responded by saying where we at last year meant we needed an overhaul. I did didn't mean we should expect nothing from the team this year or this management is immune from criticism. I have no problem with people giving fair criticism to COR, for example after the Armagh game which was a very bad performance. But some posters seem to want to always go over the top with criticism, they seem to want there to be always a feeling of constant crisis with CORs management team. I don't think this is doing anyone any good. bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1400 - 23/02/2024 10:36:21 2527675 Link 3 |
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Add in McGowan Costello Morris and Hickey O'Connor who are all in their 5th year on the Meath panel and approaching their mid 20s.
Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1003 - 23/02/2024 11:19:37 2527684 Link 0 |
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Im not criticising individual results like the Armagh game! I have been fairly consistent with my criticism in that it was obvious to me from the beginning that we have not put the proper people in place to build a team with a proper system and tactics. And I would also add S&C to that too because we are tiring in games. We have had some great individual performances by players like McGowan and No 12 (jack o connor?) for 40 min but in the final 20-30 min they are ready to be subbed! A lot of our players become ineffective in the last 20 min!! So I am annoyed at the lack of progression which was evident from even last years league! To think we are still blindly going into games thinking that if we attack the most we will win. It is obvious from watching these matches that the players are not playing to a game plan. they are a bit clueless at times and that was evident on about 5 occasions the last time when louth were clean through on goal. Campion had a great game going forward but if the louth No.11 wasnt so nervous in front of goal he could have had a field day. All these lads i mentioned are great players but are being let down by not having a game plan or being coached properly. So someone needs to take this bunch of lads and turn them into a great "unit" that hard to break down for 70-80 minutes and know how to attack with pace and more so penetration! Unfortunately thats still not the case! We can celebrate a win here and there and make the exceuse that that lads are young and will improve - but they wont improve and will end up like all the young lads that went before them IF not coached properly JonnieG (Meath) - Posts: 246 - 23/02/2024 13:57:34 2527719 Link 0 |
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Ryan and o Sullivan have yet to kick a ball for Meath this year, the other three named, especially Campion have missed months with injury over last few years and he is playing a compltely different game this time around. Backs are a new unit so still finding their way and latest update suggests none of injured ( 5/6 from TC winning team) will be back anytime soon. In fairness to Sam Mulroy he is a good forward but nowhere near top ten. O Neill handled him well and look's like a real find. Agree the bottom line is getting something from Kildare game to back up last weeks win. Not sure what has happend to them, looking at their panel they have some good players and plenty of experience. Something by and large we are short on. Armagh never gave Kildare a chance to settle last week and we need to attempt the same, so hopefull no slow start or we could be in trouble. seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2195 - 23/02/2024 15:21:28 2527736 Link 2 |
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Yeah agree with that. I'd also say frayne has huge potential. A little less noticed player that could make a big impact is coffee. I really like his attitude and work rate. He does make the odd mistake but his clearance off the line last week showed his dogged determination. He could be very very good.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 23/02/2024 21:25:31 2527782 Link 0 |
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I really disagree about the tiring In games point. It's a bIt early in the year to be drawing conclusions on that when the training load on lads is very high, generally. Plus we clearly outlasted Louth last weekend. They were gassed for most of the second half.
TobinsBeard (Meath) - Posts: 126 - 23/02/2024 22:50:55 2527792 Link 1 |
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Hard to know what to expect tomorrow. MeathAbroad (Meath) - Posts: 94 - 24/02/2024 10:24:28 2527818 Link 3 |