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Meath Vs Waterford

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No thread and less than 48 hours to go. Should comfortably win this and would guarantee a knockout place. Don't remember us ever playing Waterford so will be a novelty at least going to Dungarvan.

Ratoath Royal (Meath) - Posts: 1374 - 18/05/2023 20:52:38    2479508

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We played Waterford in a qualifier under Eamon O'Brien I think. Disposed of them easy enough in Navan.

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1664 - 19/05/2023 09:58:53    2479576

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Replying To Ratoath Royal:  "No thread and less than 48 hours to go. Should comfortably win this and would guarantee a knockout place. Don't remember us ever playing Waterford so will be a novelty at least going to Dungarvan."
Played them in 2009 in a qualifier. We won comfortably . 1-18 to 10 or something like that. I am expecting something similar tomorrow

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1003 - 19/05/2023 10:06:26    2479579

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From the team and panel just published i completely agree with how this match is approached . Attemping to consolidate and build confidence . Nice to see the Match is used as a n opportunity to learn and potentially consolidate especially scoring forwards which has been a problem . Selections clearly on merit ,and all other distractions ignored. Best of luck to all on the road to recovery

nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1266 - 19/05/2023 10:56:56    2479597

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Replying To nobull456:  "From the team and panel just published i completely agree with how this match is approached . Attemping to consolidate and build confidence . Nice to see the Match is used as a n opportunity to learn and potentially consolidate especially scoring forwards which has been a problem . Selections clearly on merit ,and all other distractions ignored. Best of luck to all on the road to recovery"
The road to recovery? Its laughable how quickly people change their tune within a year or two. Anyone who thinks Meath are on the right track with the current set up are in for a rude awakening. There are 4 or 5 teams in the Tailteann cup that I would not fancy Meath to beat should they play them, based on current performance levels. And they were all division 3 teams this year.

BigJoe14 (Meath) - Posts: 997 - 19/05/2023 11:59:11    2479613

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The only thing that interests me about the forgone conclusion is frayne been on panel. Apart from that I would be pushing myself to even go.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 19/05/2023 12:27:55    2479620

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Replying To BigJoe14:  "The road to recovery? Its laughable how quickly people change their tune within a year or two. Anyone who thinks Meath are on the right track with the current set up are in for a rude awakening. There are 4 or 5 teams in the Tailteann cup that I would not fancy Meath to beat should they play them, based on current performance levels. And they were all division 3 teams this year."
Name these four or five teams that you think meath won't beat on current form.

Royal.Legend (Meath) - Posts: 681 - 19/05/2023 16:21:12    2479680

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Replying To Royal.Legend:  "Name these four or five teams that you think meath won't beat on current form."
Cavan, Down, Fermanagh, Antrim and Offaly (who Meath have lost to already only a few weeks ago). Tipperary are one of the worst teams in the country at the moment and Waterford are worse.

BigJoe14 (Meath) - Posts: 997 - 19/05/2023 21:12:56    2479716

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Best of luck to the lads. There's enough experience on the field and a decent midfield to see us out tomorrow but I'd expect a few bumps along the way. Can't read much into it. Down will be the first big test.

LoyalRoyal (None) - Posts: 464 - 19/05/2023 21:27:17    2479717

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Replying To LoyalRoyal:  "Best of luck to the lads. There's enough experience on the field and a decent midfield to see us out tomorrow but I'd expect a few bumps along the way. Can't read much into it. Down will be the first big test."
To me yes we have to win firstly. It's nice to see our best available team will play God knows we know our weaknesses This is the ideal opportunity to deal with them. No disrespect to Waterford (they would beat us in hurling) but to day is a very important structured training g session for us. The bullet points are well known..... Improve kick out options by focus on fielding.. breaking ball around midfield.... Score taking when within 40m...quicker transmission breaking from defence... Forwards anticipation out front... Freetaking 75% success by 1 player only for this match... Slow start... maximum. Work rate from start etc. etc. To day a win will be not just on the scoreboard but a clear attempt to show definate improvement by focussing on weaknesses and thus prepare for much stronger opposition in next match

nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1266 - 20/05/2023 10:58:58    2479751

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Replying To nobull456:  "From the team and panel just published i completely agree with how this match is approached . Attemping to consolidate and build confidence . Nice to see the Match is used as a n opportunity to learn and potentially consolidate especially scoring forwards which has been a problem . Selections clearly on merit ,and all other distractions ignored. Best of luck to all on the road to recovery"
Hopefully another step in right direction, decent team and another chance to give a taste of senior football to one or two more. A big positive that all of panel have commited to this competion. Best of luck to all concerned.

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2195 - 20/05/2023 13:59:37    2479768

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Wow. That is unbelievable against one of the 2 lowest teams in country. Positive lynch is impressive and Brennan has actually kept us in this game. We are so flat and so open at the back it's like we never played together before. It's borderline embarrassing at this stage.
Look cause Waterford are so bad we will win and indeed might win by 10 or more. But that was one of the worst 35+ minutes of football I have EVER seen from a Meath team. No structure and no game plan against Waterford ffs.
What would Down not do to us if we play like that against them ?? Such a disappointing half

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 20/05/2023 19:15:58    2479803

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A win is a win. But I'm sure the players and management will have nightmares about that first half. Down in two weeks and so so much improvement required. Time for excuses is over. Lynch had a v good game great to see frayne get a score and James Mc really brought a bit of grit to the team when introduced good to have him back. Brennan equipped himself well today. Waterford could have had 2 more goals only for fine saves. Our backline is extremely worrying. This group always came down to the next match in two weeks. A awful lot of work needed to be done before them or we could be in for a serious hammering

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 20/05/2023 20:31:02    2479830

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Well done to Colm and team again. Good to get another win for all the effort being put in by all. Keep it going lads!

royalproxy (Meath) - Posts: 44 - 20/05/2023 20:37:03    2479831

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Well done? Waterford were the lowest scorers in all 4 leagues this year. Today was their highest score in any game…

veterngaa (Monaghan) - Posts: 653 - 20/05/2023 21:40:50    2479851

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Replying To veterngaa:  "Well done? Waterford were the lowest scorers in all 4 leagues this year. Today was their highest score in any game…"
I haven't the slightest interest in Waterford's statistics. We won by 9 points that's all that matters.

By the way, for a veteran Monaghan man you haven't a single post on Monaghan tread but fire one on here… do you not like Colm either?

royalproxy (Meath) - Posts: 44 - 20/05/2023 22:20:27    2479857

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1-14 conceded against Waterford (and it could have been more). But don't forget, this will take months if not years and we are building a new team.

BigJoe14 (Meath) - Posts: 997 - 20/05/2023 22:21:02    2479858

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Performance against required for next match...dissappointing overall. especially first half. Why ? defence poor even against poor opposition.....workrate questionable by some defenders contributing to poor first half . video evidence will show specifics. Goalkeeper luckily was very good and an area showing definate improvement that hopefully can be sustained against stronger opposition. Costello in my view was completely under utilised and should have been inside forwards for receiving delivery from out the field....still a good player . He has to be fully utilised againct Down,
Better in 2nd half good scoring rate . good midfield Jones and Grey given more time to develop.another area showing improvement. Lynch consolidated his position somewhat ,and self selected for next match on scoring rate alone. Freetaking..work in progress , Bench...... yes will be needed.
Overall not satisfied considering opposition . Massive work to be done in next 2 weeks .Players returning from injury will be a bonus if that happens M eath most definately know they have to improve to beat Down. I think we can win but corrective action and increased workrate is essential.
I do think that agendas become very obvious on this forum whether we want to admit it or not. I continue to declare openly that my agenda is to seek for continous improvement I fully support Colm O Rourke who stated his case clearly re.the 2 years etc..I believe in his integrity. I believe he will do his best to bring improvement In the circumstances to me its common sense and natural justice even that he be given the time to do the job . I dont understand why there should be any other agenda before at least the 2 years have elapsed. To agitate by arriving at definate conclusions at this early stage can only be arrived an agenda . Cririsism as long as its aimed at being constructive is fair game at all times. Would be nice to see a united front here in support of Colm for the next 2 years ,and thus bring about an end to the side show!s

nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1266 - 20/05/2023 22:52:19    2479862

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Made the trip yesterday myself, it was a stellar evening for a game. I have to say, Fraher Field is set in a lovely location. Dungarvan itself is a lovely town, but the stadium along the river was lovely. And to think I never had been there until last night. I think of it as a perk of this competition.

The atmosphere was dead. No way around it. Apart from people having a few drinks in the centre of town the place was dead. I'd say there was 3/4000 at the game, and that could be optimistic. Had the feeling of a challenge match or early league game. Not much interest: Many of the Waterford kids there had their hurls with them. I will say that Waterford showed much more than I personally thought they could - could have had another goal or two and had some bad wides.

For Meath, it all looked a bit like a 3rd/4th gear game. The game was reasonably close until the early second half until after a sustained period of pressure where they went looking for a goal, Costello scored a goal. Game over. The third goal (penalty) was well taken by Morris., who showed well. Lynch had a good game up front, his movement was good and he took some good scores. Another standout was the keeper who made one or two point blank saves and never stopped barking at his defenders. Ultimately the team played quite well and I was impressed by many of the new brigade. They had more pace, power, and better movement than their opposition on the day, down to league experience.

It's a win. There were warning signs - Waterford ran up the middle and bared down on goal 3/4 times in the game, the marking wasn't great at the back and there was space galore. It only ended 20 scores to 15. And the big one was the slow start where Waterford scored a goal and absolutely should have had another only for a good save. They also seemed to switch off in the last 5/10 minutes when the game was effectively over, but in that time Waterford kicked 4/5 points. In my view that's not an ideal way to end any game. Very difficult to know what to take from this match but it's a 9 point win and onto Down.

Young_gael (Meath) - Posts: 596 - 21/05/2023 08:49:31    2479877

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Replying To nobull456:  "Performance against required for next match...dissappointing overall. especially first half. Why ? defence poor even against poor opposition.....workrate questionable by some defenders contributing to poor first half . video evidence will show specifics. Goalkeeper luckily was very good and an area showing definate improvement that hopefully can be sustained against stronger opposition. Costello in my view was completely under utilised and should have been inside forwards for receiving delivery from out the field....still a good player . He has to be fully utilised againct Down,
Better in 2nd half good scoring rate . good midfield Jones and Grey given more time to develop.another area showing improvement. Lynch consolidated his position somewhat ,and self selected for next match on scoring rate alone. Freetaking..work in progress , Bench...... yes will be needed.
Overall not satisfied considering opposition . Massive work to be done in next 2 weeks .Players returning from injury will be a bonus if that happens M eath most definately know they have to improve to beat Down. I think we can win but corrective action and increased workrate is essential.
I do think that agendas become very obvious on this forum whether we want to admit it or not. I continue to declare openly that my agenda is to seek for continous improvement I fully support Colm O Rourke who stated his case clearly re.the 2 years etc..I believe in his integrity. I believe he will do his best to bring improvement In the circumstances to me its common sense and natural justice even that he be given the time to do the job . I dont understand why there should be any other agenda before at least the 2 years have elapsed. To agitate by arriving at definate conclusions at this early stage can only be arrived an agenda . Cririsism as long as its aimed at being constructive is fair game at all times. Would be nice to see a united front here in support of Colm for the next 2 years ,and thus bring about an end to the side show!s"
Fully agree on agenda. 'Heard this, heard that' bull and lies. Intent on divisiveness and malice.
In fairness some are not in favour of management but are willing to give time and have only Meath's interests at heart.

royalproxy (Meath) - Posts: 44 - 21/05/2023 09:58:21    2479894

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