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Replying To RR: "What're we thinking for this weekend?
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Trim vs Ratoath - everything I've seen so far from Trim has me convinced it is their Championship to lose. They dealt fairly handily with Ratoath in the last 'dead rubber' of the round robin and I cannot seeing it being much different this time around. Will need to be wary of the O'Hanrahan's of course, but there's just not enough about Ratoath that says they're able to turn around a seven point loss into a win in the space of three weeks. Trim by five
IHC SFS
Kildalkey vs Kilskyre/Moylagh - I had had doubt about K/M coming out of group B but they were dominant against Drumree and are riding a wave it seems. Kildalkey have bigger fish to fry this weekend - if they were to lose any of their three games, it'd be this one they'd be least upset about I'd say. K/M by four
O'Mahonys vs Donaghmore/Ashbourne - Similar to K/M, Don/Ash have been flying after coming through the 'weaker' group, only have three losses all season, two to Kildalkeys seconds (one in a league final) and one to K/M. NOM were shaky to start the season but have looked fairly solid since they've clicked. You would have to imagine they've been pucking away to prevent rustiness, because if they haven't then Don/Ash will be like a train.
Give me Don/Ash AET again by one
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SHC SF
Kildalkey vs Kiltale - like with the other semi final, it's a repeat of a round robin game which was fairly one-sided and I'm going for a similar situation - though I don't think it'll be as wide a gap as the 14 points from a few weeks back. Kildalkey by eight
JHC Final
Kildalkey vs St Pats - Stamullen have been going up and up in the last couple of years and will progress to their probably right level of IHC regardless of what happens here. However, I still think that the idea of a Championship medal - and revenge for what happened last year at JHC2 - will drive them on to an upset win. St Pats by one" A truly spectacular start from me here. 0/3
RR (Meath) - Posts: 165 - 30/09/2023 21:56:29
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Replying To Foley91: "No idea. Wasn't at it I'm at the ryder cup." I've been following this thread lately and I get the feeling @foley91 is a Killyon man with a bit of a grudge against Kildalkey. Would I be right??
On a separate note Ratoath with a massive win today! Didn't expect that!
Woodbutcher (Meath) - Posts: 34 - 01/10/2023 00:24:58
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Deserved win for Ratoath yesterday. They were physically stronger and all of the Trim forwards, besides Douglas, struggled. Once again Trim had to rely on Charlie Ennis in goals to prevent more goals being conceded.
One thing, another poor crowd for a county semi final. Why don't the County Board double up the county hurling semi finals? They may say its for revenue but I think very few neutrals will have gone to that game yesterday and a double bill on Sunday could draw more neutrals and have a better atmosphere.
stillaroyal (Meath) - Posts: 225 - 01/10/2023 10:38:12
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Replying To stillaroyal: "Deserved win for Ratoath yesterday. They were physically stronger and all of the Trim forwards, besides Douglas, struggled. Once again Trim had to rely on Charlie Ennis in goals to prevent more goals being conceded.
One thing, another poor crowd for a county semi final. Why don't the County Board double up the county hurling semi finals? They may say its for revenue but I think very few neutrals will have gone to that game yesterday and a double bill on Sunday could draw more neutrals and have a better atmosphere." Ratoath were hungrier alright, I thought other than Douglas ennis and cullen trim were destroyed. The scenes in the crowd were nothing short of disgraceful
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Replying To Meathgaalad: "Ratoath were hungrier alright, I thought other than Douglas ennis and cullen trim were destroyed. The scenes in the crowd were nothing short of disgraceful" Trim sore losers
Awaywin (Meath) - Posts: 116 - 01/10/2023 17:26:24
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What happened in the crowds?
RR (Meath) - Posts: 165 - 01/10/2023 17:44:01
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Wasn't at the game on Saturday but definitely wasn't expecting that. Goes a little way to making up for the 2020 final heartbreak. Only thing is now we've to back up that performance in the final which we have struggled to do. Kildalkey will be huge favourites and quite possibly will be going for a clean sweep of adult titles from Junior to Senior by the time the senior final comes around.
Are Navan O'Mahony's guaranteed promotion to Senior now or, if they lose the Intermediate final, do Longwood stay up?
Ratoath Royal (Meath) - Posts: 1374 - 02/10/2023 12:09:17
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Replying To Ratoath Royal: "Wasn't at the game on Saturday but definitely wasn't expecting that. Goes a little way to making up for the 2020 final heartbreak. Only thing is now we've to back up that performance in the final which we have struggled to do. Kildalkey will be huge favourites and quite possibly will be going for a clean sweep of adult titles from Junior to Senior by the time the senior final comes around.
Are Navan O'Mahony's guaranteed promotion to Senior now or, if they lose the Intermediate final, do Longwood stay up?" Think it's O'Mahonys up, similar to the junior where Stamullen are coming up instead of Kildalkey 3rds?
RR (Meath) - Posts: 165 - 02/10/2023 12:14:53
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Replying To Ratoath Royal: "Wasn't at the game on Saturday but definitely wasn't expecting that. Goes a little way to making up for the 2020 final heartbreak. Only thing is now we've to back up that performance in the final which we have struggled to do. Kildalkey will be huge favourites and quite possibly will be going for a clean sweep of adult titles from Junior to Senior by the time the senior final comes around.
Are Navan O'Mahony's guaranteed promotion to Senior now or, if they lose the Intermediate final, do Longwood stay up?" Yes o mahonys are up no matter the outcome of the inter final. They will have to play their best hurling this year to win the final. Started really well against Ashbourne but was letting it slip towards the end of the game which is slightly concerning.
Joe_soap1 (Meath) - Posts: 83 - 02/10/2023 12:58:28
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Would prefer to see Longwood stay in Senior B rather than O'Mahonys going up if they don't beat Kildalkey. I don't think you deserve to be playing senior if you don't win your championship outright. Intermediate B is a different story for Pats going up, they are replacing a team who failed to field and will help with Pats and East Meath development (Ashbourne run was a great shot in the arm for what can be done with a bit of focus).
On senior front, great to see a novel pairing in the final. While a bit of a shock to see Trim bet, they were missing some key players and regardless of your bench, those lads can't be replaced. May also be a lesson to their younger players around not believing the hype.
Kildalkey now strong favourites for it and swatted aside Kiltale. Huge gulf now between the top 3 teams and everyone else.
Kildalkey are on a crest and have a very good team with loads of youth. If it is a whistle happy ref, Ratoath might stay in it with O'Hanrahan one of the best free takers around, if the game flows, Kildalkey to claim another title and will hopefully go on and do well in Leinster.
off_the_wall (Roscommon) - Posts: 71 - 03/10/2023 10:10:11
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Replying To off_the_wall: "Would prefer to see Longwood stay in Senior B rather than O'Mahonys going up if they don't beat Kildalkey. I don't think you deserve to be playing senior if you don't win your championship outright. Intermediate B is a different story for Pats going up, they are replacing a team who failed to field and will help with Pats and East Meath development (Ashbourne run was a great shot in the arm for what can be done with a bit of focus).
On senior front, great to see a novel pairing in the final. While a bit of a shock to see Trim bet, they were missing some key players and regardless of your bench, those lads can't be replaced. May also be a lesson to their younger players around not believing the hype.
Kildalkey now strong favourites for it and swatted aside Kiltale. Huge gulf now between the top 3 teams and everyone else.
Kildalkey are on a crest and have a very good team with loads of youth. If it is a whistle happy ref, Ratoath might stay in it with O'Hanrahan one of the best free takers around, if the game flows, Kildalkey to claim another title and will hopefully go on and do well in Leinster." I would vaguely agree with you re: promotion without winning - but then you have to ask the same question as to whether Longwood deserve to stay up?
Even a one-off playoff would possibly be fairer, though you'd have O'Mahonys a lot fresher with Longwood not playing since the end of the SHC round robin.
RR (Meath) - Posts: 165 - 03/10/2023 19:54:02
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Not too often you get a brand new senior final pairing and could be a brand new intermediate pairing, I would also think minor final pairing is totally new as well. Ratoath will go very close I think, they will have huge hunger and a plan to stop Nicky Potterton and Paddy Coneelly, they also have serious athleticism and biggest thing of all they will probably have more hunger to bridge a 60 year gap than kildalkey, wouldnt underestimate that.I think its a 50:50 game, Kildalkey more favouirites for intermedaite than senior for me. to lose three finals in four years might be the idea that spurs Ratoath on to get over the line this time. Trim in the final might have suited Kildalkey more, they know more about them even though they have ashocking record vs Trim over last 2 years, I think Kildalkey would have upped their game if Trim were in final, they might feel they have the measure of Ratoath more and be a bit complacent.
dickie10 (UK) - Posts: 767 - 04/10/2023 09:42:48
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Replying To dickie10: "Not too often you get a brand new senior final pairing and could be a brand new intermediate pairing, I would also think minor final pairing is totally new as well. Ratoath will go very close I think, they will have huge hunger and a plan to stop Nicky Potterton and Paddy Coneelly, they also have serious athleticism and biggest thing of all they will probably have more hunger to bridge a 60 year gap than kildalkey, wouldnt underestimate that.I think its a 50:50 game, Kildalkey more favouirites for intermedaite than senior for me. to lose three finals in four years might be the idea that spurs Ratoath on to get over the line this time. Trim in the final might have suited Kildalkey more, they know more about them even though they have ashocking record vs Trim over last 2 years, I think Kildalkey would have upped their game if Trim were in final, they might feel they have the measure of Ratoath more and be a bit complacent." i dont thin anyone team goes into a final complacent, Navan have improved big time and i think will ask way more questions of kildalkey than any other has to date, Ratoath for me are favourites having beaten the Co Champs, Kildalkey or ratoath wont fear each other, makings of a great co final, not sure who will get over the line,
pixey (Meath) - Posts: 60 - 04/10/2023 11:56:57
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yeah definitley agree with it being a good final if its anyway dry at all, id say very open. if Ratoath bring the fire and brimstone and a bit of chaos they will win, kildalkey will like things slow, settled and stop start. Ratoath brought a firestorm of a game in august 2020 when they beat kildalkey but they havent ever backed that up. Kildalkey will need more spread of scorers because i cant see Nicky Potterton and Paddy Coneelly getting free reign against Ratoath. I think Kildalkey will beat Navan OmAHONYS by 5-6 points. Kildalkey intermediate would beat a lot of teams in senior B. IS kILLYON IN 1984 THEY LAST TEAM TO WIN THE INTER AND SENIOR DOUBLE? i see Kilmessan got to the final vs Navan Omahonys in 1997 and brought them to a replay, Kilmessan first team also won the senior that year, thats the closest in recent decades anyone has got i think, unbelieveable how rare and difficult it is.
dickie10 (UK) - Posts: 767 - 05/10/2023 13:32:05
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I don't mean in any way to take anything away from kildalkey because there doing a great job but with trim winning nearly everything last year and kildalkey going for the triple , I think it really shows how poor the standard is in Meath hurling at the minute. Kildalkey walked through the intermediate group stages apart from when they were missing a few lads lost to rathmoylan. First teams like Rathmoylon, drumree ,Kells , kilskyre , Ashbourne , o mahonys in my opinion are way off senior level hurling. Then you have senior B teams that are way off senior A level hurling . Big changes needed and it all starts from the bottom up.
Joe_soap1 (Meath) - Posts: 83 - 05/10/2023 16:50:00
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I would like to see 8 senior teams,
8 intermediate teams, 8 junior A teams etc..
There are a few senior teams in name only. Intermediate is a poor grade and Ratoath are last team to really do well at senior level. No other team that has come up has got to a final in the last few years bar Longwood in 2012. It would also give intermediate teams a good chance in Leinster as the grade would be stronger. Realistically Trim, Kildalkey and Ratoath can win senior at present. 2 groups of 4, top 2 in semis, bottom in each group in relegation. For the betterment of hurling in the county, something has to be done. Then get the county team consistently competing in Joe McDonagh.
Based on this year's results
Senior
Ratoath
Trim
Kildalkey
Kiltale
Killyon
Blackhall Gaels
Na Fianna
Kilmessan
Intermediate
Clann na Gael
Dunderry
Dunboyne
Longwood
Navan O'Mahonys
Kildalkey 2
Kilskyre Moylagh
Donaghmore Ashbourne
Junior A
Rathmolyon
Drumree
Boardsmill
Kells
Wolfe Tones
Trim 2
St Pats
Kildalkey 3
Junior B
Dunboyne 2
Kilmessan 2
Killyon 2
Ratoath 2
Drumree 2
Clann na Gael 2
Kilskyre Moylagh 2
Navan O'Mahonys 2
Junior C
Trim 3
Dunderry 2
Rathmolyon 2
Drumree 3
St Pats 2
Wolfe Tones 2
Donaghmore Ashbourne 2
Ratoath 3
yourname (Meath) - Posts: 24 - 06/10/2023 00:45:34
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Replying To yourname: "I would like to see 8 senior teams,
8 intermediate teams, 8 junior A teams etc..
There are a few senior teams in name only. Intermediate is a poor grade and Ratoath are last team to really do well at senior level. No other team that has come up has got to a final in the last few years bar Longwood in 2012. It would also give intermediate teams a good chance in Leinster as the grade would be stronger. Realistically Trim, Kildalkey and Ratoath can win senior at present. 2 groups of 4, top 2 in semis, bottom in each group in relegation. For the betterment of hurling in the county, something has to be done. Then get the county team consistently competing in Joe McDonagh.
Based on this year's results
Senior
Ratoath
Trim
Kildalkey
Kiltale
Killyon
Blackhall Gaels
Na Fianna
Kilmessan
Intermediate
Clann na Gael
Dunderry
Dunboyne
Longwood
Navan O'Mahonys
Kildalkey 2
Kilskyre Moylagh
Donaghmore Ashbourne
Junior A
Rathmolyon
Drumree
Boardsmill
Kells
Wolfe Tones
Trim 2
St Pats
Kildalkey 3
Junior B
Dunboyne 2
Kilmessan 2
Killyon 2
Ratoath 2
Drumree 2
Clann na Gael 2
Kilskyre Moylagh 2
Navan O'Mahonys 2
Junior C
Trim 3
Dunderry 2
Rathmolyon 2
Drumree 3
St Pats 2
Wolfe Tones 2
Donaghmore Ashbourne 2
Ratoath 3" That's a pretty decent shout, just a personal thing but I'd rather not see second teams in the intermediate grade, just my own opinion.
Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3743 - 06/10/2023 12:03:52
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Replying To Richieq: " Replying To yourname: "I would like to see 8 senior teams,
8 intermediate teams, 8 junior A teams etc..
There are a few senior teams in name only. Intermediate is a poor grade and Ratoath are last team to really do well at senior level. No other team that has come up has got to a final in the last few years bar Longwood in 2012. It would also give intermediate teams a good chance in Leinster as the grade would be stronger. Realistically Trim, Kildalkey and Ratoath can win senior at present. 2 groups of 4, top 2 in semis, bottom in each group in relegation. For the betterment of hurling in the county, something has to be done. Then get the county team consistently competing in Joe McDonagh.
Based on this year's results
Senior
Ratoath
Trim
Kildalkey
Kiltale
Killyon
Blackhall Gaels
Na Fianna
Kilmessan
Intermediate
Clann na Gael
Dunderry
Dunboyne
Longwood
Navan O'Mahonys
Kildalkey 2
Kilskyre Moylagh
Donaghmore Ashbourne
Junior A
Rathmolyon
Drumree
Boardsmill
Kells
Wolfe Tones
Trim 2
St Pats
Kildalkey 3
Junior B
Dunboyne 2
Kilmessan 2
Killyon 2
Ratoath 2
Drumree 2
Clann na Gael 2
Kilskyre Moylagh 2
Navan O'Mahonys 2
Junior C
Trim 3
Dunderry 2
Rathmolyon 2
Drumree 3
St Pats 2
Wolfe Tones 2
Donaghmore Ashbourne 2
Ratoath 3" That's a pretty decent shout, just a personal thing but I'd rather not see second teams in the intermediate grade, just my own opinion."
pixey (Meath) - Posts: 60 - 06/10/2023 13:06:18
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Replying To yourname: "I would like to see 8 senior teams,
8 intermediate teams, 8 junior A teams etc..
There are a few senior teams in name only. Intermediate is a poor grade and Ratoath are last team to really do well at senior level. No other team that has come up has got to a final in the last few years bar Longwood in 2012. It would also give intermediate teams a good chance in Leinster as the grade would be stronger. Realistically Trim, Kildalkey and Ratoath can win senior at present. 2 groups of 4, top 2 in semis, bottom in each group in relegation. For the betterment of hurling in the county, something has to be done. Then get the county team consistently competing in Joe McDonagh.
Based on this year's results
Senior
Ratoath
Trim
Kildalkey
Kiltale
Killyon
Blackhall Gaels
Na Fianna
Kilmessan
Intermediate
Clann na Gael
Dunderry
Dunboyne
Longwood
Navan O'Mahonys
Kildalkey 2
Kilskyre Moylagh
Donaghmore Ashbourne
Junior A
Rathmolyon
Drumree
Boardsmill
Kells
Wolfe Tones
Trim 2
St Pats
Kildalkey 3
Junior B
Dunboyne 2
Kilmessan 2
Killyon 2
Ratoath 2
Drumree 2
Clann na Gael 2
Kilskyre Moylagh 2
Navan O'Mahonys 2
Junior C
Trim 3
Dunderry 2
Rathmolyon 2
Drumree 3
St Pats 2
Wolfe Tones 2
Donaghmore Ashbourne 2
Ratoath 3" Would agree with this and probably the way to go
UsernameInvalid (Meath) - Posts: 403 - 06/10/2023 13:06:23
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Replying To Richieq: " Replying To yourname: "I would like to see 8 senior teams,
8 intermediate teams, 8 junior A teams etc..
There are a few senior teams in name only. Intermediate is a poor grade and Ratoath are last team to really do well at senior level. No other team that has come up has got to a final in the last few years bar Longwood in 2012. It would also give intermediate teams a good chance in Leinster as the grade would be stronger. Realistically Trim, Kildalkey and Ratoath can win senior at present. 2 groups of 4, top 2 in semis, bottom in each group in relegation. For the betterment of hurling in the county, something has to be done. Then get the county team consistently competing in Joe McDonagh.
Based on this year's results
Senior
Ratoath
Trim
Kildalkey
Kiltale
Killyon
Blackhall Gaels
Na Fianna
Kilmessan
Intermediate
Clann na Gael
Dunderry
Dunboyne
Longwood
Navan O'Mahonys
Kildalkey 2
Kilskyre Moylagh
Donaghmore Ashbourne
Junior A
Rathmolyon
Drumree
Boardsmill
Kells
Wolfe Tones
Trim 2
St Pats
Kildalkey 3
Junior B
Dunboyne 2
Kilmessan 2
Killyon 2
Ratoath 2
Drumree 2
Clann na Gael 2
Kilskyre Moylagh 2
Navan O'Mahonys 2
Junior C
Trim 3
Dunderry 2
Rathmolyon 2
Drumree 3
St Pats 2
Wolfe Tones 2
Donaghmore Ashbourne 2
Ratoath 3" That's a pretty decent shout, just a personal thing but I'd rather not see second teams in the intermediate grade, just my own opinion."
Joe_soap1 (Meath) - Posts: 83 - 06/10/2023 13:25:17
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