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Club Championship 2023

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Replying To Royalblufill:  "Summerhill probably favourite now! Ratoth hit with injuries - McGill out, 2 McGowans missing, Gerrard out, Joey Wallace long term out, Cian obrien out, Brian McMahon off early with a bad injury and a couple of lads travelling Rogers, ahern. A lot will depend on getting them back!

Collies were good yesterday - deserved their win. Still a few teams who will fancy their chances

Relegation will be a belter too! Hard to believe kells and Dunboyne are in the mix but there they are!!!"
Conlon is outstanding. How he is not on Meath panel is absolutely incredible

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 28/08/2023 20:55:24    2502734

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Replying To royler:  "Looking forward to draws tonight live on lmfm at 8pm"
Draws done - some interesting fixtures!!

Cilles v Ashbourne - Cilles will be confident after beating champions yesterday while Ashbourne probably feel good after sneaking through! I think Ashbourne will win this one in a tight affair!

Simonstown v Tones - I think Tones will win this! I think they are better than have been credited for!

Summerhill v Trim - can only see the Hill winning this - think they look like the most solid outfit!

Dunshaughlin v Ratoath - should be a cracking game! Pity Grey is out - would have been interesting to see him up against Flynn! Ratoath will be hoping McGill and McMahon and Ben McGowan are fit! Assuming they are I think Ratoath will come through!!

In the relegation I'll go with na Fianna, Dunboyne curraha and Bracks to win leaving the other 4 to go again!!!

Royalblufill (Meath) - Posts: 511 - 28/08/2023 21:20:01    2502737

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So after that draw it is looking like a clear run for Summerhill and Ratoath through to the final. It's difficult to see any team stopping either of them.

Dunboyne against Gael Colmcille is a spicy one on the relegation side. One of them will be going into the relegation semis. Getting too close for comfort for them.

stillaroyal (Meath) - Posts: 225 - 28/08/2023 22:19:27    2502739

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Replying To royler:  "Looking forward to draws tonight live on lmfm at 8pm"
Some tasty ties in both relegation and the QF's would I be right in saying that all 4 of the QF's are neighboring clashes?? Cilles V Ashbourne a great fixture where you expect nothing but a Cilles win. Simonstown V Tones always has fireworks and will be heavy hitting stuff. Summerhill V Trim will be ferocious and there certainly wont be any love lost and Dunsh V Ratoath will be a shootout. The only game I'd personally be 50/50 about would be Simonstown V Tones. In Relegation its looking like Skyrne will go down. Ballinabracky will have too much as will
Senchalstown and Kells who I think will hit the final will also have too much.
In Intermediate I think the winners will come from Rathkenny V NOM. The other side of the draw has Pats and maybe Duleek but I think Rathkenny or NOM would beat them.

COUNTYTOCOUNTY (Meath) - Posts: 30 - 29/08/2023 08:33:51    2502750

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Replying To winatallcost:  "https://meath.gaa.ie/club-admin/

Read the competitions regulation section. Page 18 of 22 for Junior B which was updated in July. Fairly clearly states top 2 qualify."
I believe it is quarter finals but they forgot to include it in the regulations. Looks really bad on the county board as the regulations are meant to be the bible.

LettuceBFrank (Meath) - Posts: 19 - 29/08/2023 08:41:13    2502753

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Replying To LettuceBFrank:  "I believe it is quarter finals but they forgot to include it in the regulations. Looks really bad on the county board as the regulations are meant to be the bible."
If its not there are clubs will be very disappointed as they think they are still in the championship

royal1967 (Meath) - Posts: 293 - 29/08/2023 09:49:46    2502762

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Replying To LettuceBFrank:  "I believe it is quarter finals but they forgot to include it in the regulations. Looks really bad on the county board as the regulations are meant to be the bible."
County Board have confirmed this week there will be quarter finals in Junior B

Belt (Meath) - Posts: 272 - 29/08/2023 09:52:15    2502764

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Replying To COUNTYTOCOUNTY:  "Some tasty ties in both relegation and the QF's would I be right in saying that all 4 of the QF's are neighboring clashes?? Cilles V Ashbourne a great fixture where you expect nothing but a Cilles win. Simonstown V Tones always has fireworks and will be heavy hitting stuff. Summerhill V Trim will be ferocious and there certainly wont be any love lost and Dunsh V Ratoath will be a shootout. The only game I'd personally be 50/50 about would be Simonstown V Tones. In Relegation its looking like Skyrne will go down. Ballinabracky will have too much as will
Senchalstown and Kells who I think will hit the final will also have too much.
In Intermediate I think the winners will come from Rathkenny V NOM. The other side of the draw has Pats and maybe Duleek but I think Rathkenny or NOM would beat them."
Skryne certainly having challenging time but believe Curraha got the worst of the draw, having Moynalvey, then loser of Kells/Dunboyne , if I was to rank who is going to get relegated, not much betweeen the top 3 Kells close behind: (Dunboyne least likely)
Curraha
Senchalstown
Skryne
Kells
Moynalvey
Ballinabrackey
Na Fianna
Dunboyne

Súilseabhac (Meath) - Posts: 3 - 29/08/2023 09:55:13    2502766

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Replying To Belt:  "County Board have confirmed this week there will be quarter finals in Junior B"
10 teams reduced to 6 for quarters/semis. Not enough jeopardy and gives the teams in group B a second chance.

tikitaka (Meath) - Posts: 8 - 29/08/2023 10:36:29    2502782

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Very interesting draw last night in senior in the race for Keegan. The draw has thrown up a few tasty tight affairs with 3 of the quarter finals being local derbies.

Ratoath and Dunsh in the first quarter final will be an interesting affair. Both teams will fancy their chances here and Dunsh will gain a lot of confidence after seeing what a young cilles team did to ratoath, they'll believe they can do the same. Ratoath will need to improve a lot from the cilles game to get back to their usual self but I believe they will. Both teams have suffered injuries, with gray and Murphy out for Dunsh and McGill, two of the McGowans, McMahon, Joey Wallace and rogers out for the champions. However think ratoath will respond well here and pick up the win.

Cilles and Ashbourne will both fancy their chances against each other here but it depends on what cilles team show up, they were brilliant against ratoath but the question is can they back it up with another big display. The moors however know luck has been on their side to date, they were poor in all three games and yet have still qualified. They'll be expecting a big display against the cilles.

Simonstown and the tones, think the tones will win here quite convincingly, I think the tones are the third best team in the championship while I don't think simonstown are up to much and have been lucky in the three game with a goal late on in each game to get them their points. With Saran back now aswell the bracks game will stand to the tones, good win against a dogged team.

Summerhill and trim, many people may think this will a one sided affair however I don't think that will be true, the castle men showed their bottle against the yellow furze to come back from seven points at one stage and again at the weekend put in a brilliant display to Knick a win in the fifth minute of added time. I think this will be a tight game but think the hill will pull away in the last minutes.

Summerhill would have liked ratoath now as they know they have to beat them to win the championship, I think tones could still have a big say on the championship with ratoath fearing them as they are the only team to beat them in knockout championship since 2019.

Meathboyos86 (Meath) - Posts: 29 - 29/08/2023 10:48:33    2502788

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Replying To Meathboyos86:  "Very interesting draw last night in senior in the race for Keegan. The draw has thrown up a few tasty tight affairs with 3 of the quarter finals being local derbies.

Ratoath and Dunsh in the first quarter final will be an interesting affair. Both teams will fancy their chances here and Dunsh will gain a lot of confidence after seeing what a young cilles team did to ratoath, they'll believe they can do the same. Ratoath will need to improve a lot from the cilles game to get back to their usual self but I believe they will. Both teams have suffered injuries, with gray and Murphy out for Dunsh and McGill, two of the McGowans, McMahon, Joey Wallace and rogers out for the champions. However think ratoath will respond well here and pick up the win.

Cilles and Ashbourne will both fancy their chances against each other here but it depends on what cilles team show up, they were brilliant against ratoath but the question is can they back it up with another big display. The moors however know luck has been on their side to date, they were poor in all three games and yet have still qualified. They'll be expecting a big display against the cilles.

Simonstown and the tones, think the tones will win here quite convincingly, I think the tones are the third best team in the championship while I don't think simonstown are up to much and have been lucky in the three game with a goal late on in each game to get them their points. With Saran back now aswell the bracks game will stand to the tones, good win against a dogged team.

Summerhill and trim, many people may think this will a one sided affair however I don't think that will be true, the castle men showed their bottle against the yellow furze to come back from seven points at one stage and again at the weekend put in a brilliant display to Knick a win in the fifth minute of added time. I think this will be a tight game but think the hill will pull away in the last minutes.

Summerhill would have liked ratoath now as they know they have to beat them to win the championship, I think tones could still have a big say on the championship with ratoath fearing them as they are the only team to beat them in knockout championship since 2019."
Agree here, some very interesting draw last night in both Keegan and Relegation

Ratoath v Dunshsughlin: Ratoath Win
A local Derby, the current best in the county against a team who I think will in the next 2-3 years be a serious contender for Keegan on a consistent basis. Both teams will fancy their chances here, Dunshaughlin will hope to follow suit in seeing what an average Cilles team did to Ratoath in the last round. Like most beasts though, they are at their most dangerous when they are either wounded or feeling threatened and Ratoath will be feeling both after last weeks game. They were nowhere near good enough to win the game or for the standards they have set over the last number of years and if they can re-focus and get one or two lads back off the injury table then I would fear for what they could do to this Dunshaughlin team. Injuries to Gray and Murphy out for Dunshaughlin leaving them out for the season is massive, whilst Ratoaths aren't season enders, however they will want their lads back training sooner rather than later. I think if McGill gets back, he can mark Costello and add a bit of calm to the Ratoath defense, they have enough quality still to do as they did in the league and put Dunshaughlin to the sword

St Colmcilles v Ashbourne: Cilles
As mentioned above, this is all about what Cilles team shows up as I think they are the better of the two teams. If the one that beat Ratoath last weekend then I see nothing other than an easy Cilles win regardless of how well Ashbourne play. However if the Cilles team that played Moynalvey or Skryne are on show then Ashbourne have every chance of causing an upset. Ashbourne have been poor in the group and yet still find themselves here in the Quarter finals. Unlike Ratoath to pack the defense anyway and this is waht will be needed to stop Cilles who are still very very reliant on Banty inside. They will need to speed up their transition to attack, but if they managed to sneak an early goal then this could be a cagey one to see what kind of bottle Cilles have. The one game I went against Ashbourne so far they ended up winning but I will have to go with a Cilles win here as they are the better team IMO and Ashbourne have shown nothing so far to suggest they will win

Simonstown v Wolfe Tones: Draw
Another Derby which should be a tight tense battle. Simonstown have surprised many so far in topping their group and beating decent opposition along the way. People will mention how it took two late goals in two games but thats irrelevant. Its the final score that matters and only that so if they are trailing for 59 or 60 minutes if won't bother them. They have been solid defensively (last game aside as it was a dead rubber and possibly trying a new tactic) and with McKeever up top are always going to be a threat. Sean Tobin and Ben Hoey are also capable of a score or two as well so they won't be a push over by any means. Tones are also moving well and have some solid seasoned campaigners mixed in with some good young players. A team that knows how to win and grind out results against teams like Simonstown who will set up defensively. I'm very torn here so am going to go with a draw in this game and can't pick for extra time, even though I think Tones are the slightly better team, this will all come down to on the day (Red cards/injuries etc being the deciding factor)

Summerhill v Trim: Summerhill
Another local battle here. The bridesmaids of Meath football against another of the up and comers within the county. The obvious threat here for Summerhill will be Aaron Lynch who has been excellent for Trim this year, however having seen Summerhill manage to keep the like of McMahon, Wallace, Rogers and McGowan relatively quiet in the last few years in the same game, I think they will be able to shut down Lynch, and therefore killing any threat that Trim may possess. Going forward, Summerhill have a number of threats and also have a solid midfield so I expect them to win this one comfortably enough come the final whistle.

The one thing I don't agree with from the above post is Ratoath fearing Wolfe Tones. I don't think they fear anyone and with good reason. They have won games effortlessly, in style, ground out results against the odds and stood up against teams when put under pressure. They've lost two game sin Championship since 2019 (Summerhill in 2019 groups and Wolfe Tones in 2021 semi finals) and that's it. They won't mind who comes in front of them, however they will need to be at 100% to win each game and regain their title as the Cilles showed, if they (or any team for that matter) isn't at their best then there are teams in this county that will punish you

ratlag (Meath) - Posts: 582 - 29/08/2023 12:39:00    2502823

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Replying To tikitaka:  "10 teams reduced to 6 for quarters/semis. Not enough jeopardy and gives the teams in group B a second chance."
There is 11 team in junior b so very close to senior and inter with 50% goin into knock out stages and it was an open draw so how does group b get a 2nd chance

royal1967 (Meath) - Posts: 293 - 29/08/2023 14:58:16    2502862

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Replying To royal1967:  "There is 11 team in junior b so very close to senior and inter with 50% goin into knock out stages and it was an open draw so how does group b get a 2nd chance"
3 teams going through in a 5 team group at Junior B level is a bit much. Also did the county board make it up as they went along as rules competition document released by Meath GAA stated 2 teams per group. The result of this was having a game like the Boardsmill v Slane match. Boardsmill know they can go after Moynalty now in final match.

winatallcost (Meath) - Posts: 587 - 29/08/2023 15:26:04    2502873

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Replying To winatallcost:  "3 teams going through in a 5 team group at Junior B level is a bit much. Also did the county board make it up as they went along as rules competition document released by Meath GAA stated 2 teams per group. The result of this was having a game like the Boardsmill v Slane match. Boardsmill know they can go after Moynalty now in final match."
Think u just hav to admit you got it wrong,the rules were there from the start,there is no way boardsmill set out to hav a result like this as I think there game with moynalty will be at best 50/50 if I was betting I would back moynalty

royal1967 (Meath) - Posts: 293 - 29/08/2023 16:01:16    2502880

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Replying To royal1967:  "Think u just hav to admit you got it wrong,the rules were there from the start,there is no way boardsmill set out to hav a result like this as I think there game with moynalty will be at best 50/50 if I was betting I would back moynalty"
Tell me where the rules are and where they were from the start? Or is this just word of mouth from a few cronies in the county board. What hope is there when rules are wrong as written and published. Perhaps Boardsmill will just back themselves and actually its same scenario as winner of this game will take 2nd place. Boardsmill would actually finish third even if they lose as they have Carnaross on head to head. In other words if as you say 3 teams go through, Boardsmill probably won't care. They may just go for it to finish 2nd though and if Moynalty were to lose, they would be 4th as Carnaross have them on head to head.

winatallcost (Meath) - Posts: 587 - 29/08/2023 16:30:16    2502889

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Replying To royal1967:  "Think u just hav to admit you got it wrong,the rules were there from the start,there is no way boardsmill set out to hav a result like this as I think there game with moynalty will be at best 50/50 if I was betting I would back moynalty"
That's incorrect. The rules NEVER stated quarter finals.
Poor governance and embarrassing for the county board to mess up like that

LettuceBFrank (Meath) - Posts: 19 - 29/08/2023 17:02:07    2502893

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Replying To winatallcost:  "Tell me where the rules are and where they were from the start? Or is this just word of mouth from a few cronies in the county board. What hope is there when rules are wrong as written and published. Perhaps Boardsmill will just back themselves and actually its same scenario as winner of this game will take 2nd place. Boardsmill would actually finish third even if they lose as they have Carnaross on head to head. In other words if as you say 3 teams go through, Boardsmill probably won't care. They may just go for it to finish 2nd though and if Moynalty were to lose, they would be 4th as Carnaross have them on head to head."
Boardsmill can now settle for 3rd or win against moynalty and knock them out before the business end. Depending on how the hurling goes at the weekend we could see them push on in the football a bit more. In my opinion, 3 teams coming out of group B is going to make it a bit tighter, as the 4 strongest teams in junior b are all in this group and I would be confident in saying all 4 of Slane, Moynalty, Boardsmill and Carnaross would easily beat all teams in Group A

ClashofAsh85 (Meath) - Posts: 20 - 29/08/2023 17:04:09    2502894

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Replying To winatallcost:  "Tell me where the rules are and where they were from the start? Or is this just word of mouth from a few cronies in the county board. What hope is there when rules are wrong as written and published. Perhaps Boardsmill will just back themselves and actually its same scenario as winner of this game will take 2nd place. Boardsmill would actually finish third even if they lose as they have Carnaross on head to head. In other words if as you say 3 teams go through, Boardsmill probably won't care. They may just go for it to finish 2nd though and if Moynalty were to lose, they would be 4th as Carnaross have them on head to head."
The rules our club got at the start of the year stated top 3 qualify with top team in semi final and 2nd and 3rd team in quarter final which we now know is true

royal1967 (Meath) - Posts: 293 - 29/08/2023 17:41:14    2502902

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Replying To winatallcost:  "Tell me where the rules are and where they were from the start? Or is this just word of mouth from a few cronies in the county board. What hope is there when rules are wrong as written and published. Perhaps Boardsmill will just back themselves and actually its same scenario as winner of this game will take 2nd place. Boardsmill would actually finish third even if they lose as they have Carnaross on head to head. In other words if as you say 3 teams go through, Boardsmill probably won't care. They may just go for it to finish 2nd though and if Moynalty were to lose, they would be 4th as Carnaross have them on head to head."
Moynalty win the group if they beat boardsmill

CMAN1570 (Meath) - Posts: 56 - 29/08/2023 18:28:14    2502910

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Rathoath
Cilles
Summerhill
Tones.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 29/08/2023 18:57:06    2502913

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