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I for one would be extremely happy for an outside manager. I wanted Eamonn fitz this time but for whatever reason that didn't happen despite him been interviewed. Internally I suppose obric deserves to be looked at. I would actually like to see Gillespie been talked to . Young enthusiastic, and doing a good job with summerhill. Our fb line has been terrible all year. It brings up the question as to why McGill ls not there. That's down to management and not the top table. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 23/04/2023 20:50:14 2472947 Link 2 |
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Yes totally agree,I'm sick of hearing the players aren't there excuse.Look at Louth ,Roscommon,Monaghan etc counties with a smaller club, player pool than us are doing.With a proper system we could at least be competitive in divison 2 and maybe in time divison 1.The first half no fight, no tactics but most of all no belief.Yes the second half we showed a little bit but we couldn't have got much worse and things could only get a bit better.I dont know what they are at in training how many mis placed passes, dropped balls and silly option taking.Yes it was a slippy ball today but it's over the whole league same thing technically so poor.I was in Kildare for the league game and came out thinking that was bad but maybe they are hard at in training preparing for championship and we will see a reaction a bounce but no treated to a horror show today.The players have to take some blame as well but belief and tactics has to come from the top and it hasn't happened at all this year.Ive defended COR on here and said he needs time but we have regressed big time. While results are important (no doubt )for me it's more about the performance s and they have been shocking really.I wouldn't mind if we lost games but performances were there and improving or we could see some sort of a system but I dont see any.Id love it to work for COR and maybe with the young lads coming through things will get better but at the minute big questions habg over management.I probably should've waited before writing this but just mad frustrated after been at the match today and witnessing the match.One final thing congrats to Offaly today and best of luck the next day.
Proudroyal (Meath) - Posts: 294 - 23/04/2023 21:02:03 2472956 Link 5 |
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Wouldn't mind seeing this list of 6 better forwards which are in the county too....
Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6347 - 23/04/2023 21:05:04 2472959 Link 6 |
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I couldn't care less where they come from. I'd take one of the Dublin lads who experienced the Dublin scene under Jim Gavin but with a Meath connection ~ Paul Clarke maybe who lives in Meath for many years. The We are Meath type lads will respond now with their false pride nonsense. We have to tap into the Dubs flocking into the county - it's our only chance of success. The days of 15 hardy bucks from rural Meath clubs is gone forever.
Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 1352 - 23/04/2023 21:11:39 2472963 Link 2 |
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An lad rebuild my hoop, wake up - beaten out gate by Offaly. Drew with a rubbish limerick team. Can't score, totally directionless. It's not rocket science. The Offaly manager only started a month ago ffs! It's not Dublin or Kerry who beat us or even Roscommon or Derry, it's Offaly and we were pathetic by all accounts in a championship match. There is almost nothing positive about the "rebuild" so far and the easiest bit is the start where you see quick gains. He's "lost" a few important players and replaced them with lads who don't seem to be anywhere near the standard required - are we gonna wait 2 years for them to develop from Div 4 players into Div 3 players? And sure then we'll have another rebuild will we? Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 1352 - 23/04/2023 21:19:12 2472965 Link 1 |
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We need more lads from kells for a start. hurlit (Meath) - Posts: 424 - 23/04/2023 21:22:25 2472968 Link 3 |
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Ultimately the top table are in charge.
MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1080 - 23/04/2023 21:48:23 2472982 Link 0 |
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From a Offaly person. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 23/04/2023 22:44:56 2473002 Link 0 |
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Expect some had their posts written and ready to go, very dissapointing result but no great surprise. We have been slipping down the pecking order year on year and the only real difference is the hammering in a Leinster final. Jones was sorely missed and brought the missing fight and aggression when introduced. We need to give the TC a decent shot and a chance to drip feed a few u20 into team. No way will CB get rid of COR, go back on their word and they loose all credibility and no half decent coach would touch the job.
seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2195 - 23/04/2023 22:45:53 2473003 Link 8 |
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Disappointed but hardly surprised coming out of Tullamore today. The writing was on the wall all year and it seems nothing was learned from the league at all. In truth we having a forward of inter county class at all, we haven't a player that can kick a 45 even, that's how bad it is. In fairness to Offaly they had better and more clinical forwards and that ultimately got them over the line but they were so there for the taking 2nd half if we had anyone that could score. AthboyCelt (Meath) - Posts: 148 - 23/04/2023 22:47:35 2473005 Link 0 |
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Make up your mind, one post its all the fault of the GAA, Leinster Council and getting hammered by the Dubs, then you tell us standards fell off a cliff, but dont want a rebuild, bookend them by asking us "does he see something in players we don't? " I especially like the we, as you go on to say, not only did you not attend game, you could not be bothered to even listen on radio.
seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2195 - 23/04/2023 23:07:55 2473007 Link 9 |
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Sorry but we've been rebuilding for a few decades now. 24 years since the last all Ireland. We've only got to 2 semi finals since. Andy Mc was able to improve a few things but progress had clearly stalled but it seems like all previous progress has been thrown out the window. Good managers and coaches can indeed improve quickly, starting with the basics first and at the very least make a team solid defensively. You shouldn't need 2 years to get some of these things ironed out in particular defensive strategies. It's not like we're coaching kids here, they know how to play football, there's no need to think we're back at year zero.
LoyalRoyal (None) - Posts: 464 - 23/04/2023 23:53:51 2473015 Link 1 |
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You have to give Colm O'Rourke at least 2 years at the job, and preferably 3 if ye want a shot to turn things around. No manager can work a magic wand in just one year. How many years did Andy McEntee get: 5-6? Give Colm more time. It's the only way forward for Meath!
foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2095 - 24/04/2023 04:32:01 2473024 Link 9 |
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I think we could go around and round in circles over this result and other poor results forever; the reality is that this game came and went and no one nationwide is really surprised with the end result. Young_gael (Meath) - Posts: 596 - 24/04/2023 06:34:01 2473029 Link 9 |
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Fairly sensible post (although it's hard to see that immediately after a game). First off it's a very bad result and display. The first half in particular was very bad. But despite what people are saying it is actually not a new low, we've had similar results in last 20 years. In 2018 Longford knocked us out of Leinster to reach the only semi final they have got to in the last 35 years (https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/longford-reach-first-semi-final-in-30-years-with-meath-win-1.3510536). Had the Tailteann cup structure being in existence in the last 20 years we probably would have previously sometimes have had to play in it (as would Kildare in that time, ye have sometimes being out of the top 2 divisions in football in this time like when Banty brought us down to division 3 for 2013). It's difficult being out of the championship proper in April and will be hard for supporters (me included) to get up for the start of the Tailteann cup when at the same time the main championship is simultaneously taking place but I hope the Meath team will embrace it and get a bit of a run in it. The truth is I think with it being his first inter county job O'Rourke is learning on the job a bit, a decent run in the Tailteann cup could be a learning experience for management and players. There is a bit of a worry our players won't take it seriously due to this disappointment. bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1400 - 24/04/2023 07:17:05 2473032 Link 4 |
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Disastrous result and bad performance. But bit ridiculous to say beat out the gate, we were well on top in second half and had O'Sullivan scored with his goal chance (or passed the ball on) we probably would have won. People need to wake up a bit, we've been bad for much of the last 20 years. We've had results like this in past championships (Longford in 2018). This we are Meath stuff is based on what happend in the Boylan era nearly 2 decades ago. Getting rid of a manager after half a season makes no sense. Give the players some space now, it's going to be a big challenge now to get motivated for the rest of the season. bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1400 - 24/04/2023 07:46:57 2473034 Link 4 |
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We scored 4 goals against Clare and 3 against Cork, without them we were relegated. Time to get real we are beyond abject at the moment. Teams in Tailteann are Cavan, Fermanagh Laois (maybe Down and Offaly,) Antrim Tipp Wicklow. They will have targeted the Tailteann cup and are not despondent about being there. I see us winning a game or two but when it matters and bodies need to go on the line, we will be yet again be found wanting. urizen (Meath) - Posts: 116 - 24/04/2023 07:49:49 2473037 Link 1 |
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Well for a Start Aaron Lynch is better than both of them in my opinion. As is James Conlon. My own clubman Danny Quinn is probably ahead of them both also but getting too old now. We have no target man inside, not even a Mark achieved in the whole game. Was only when Jones came on he actually put in 2 hard hits and scored a few points, COS looked to be carrying an injury. Why we were playing with a sweeper who was non existent in the first half was beyond me. Maybe your right, Maybe their is no one better in the county than the lads we started in the forwards yesterday. The worst thing about yesterday was we had no clue what we were at until Jones came on, he had a bit of a go on his own. No game plan, no fight, no pride from the majority of the lads. Andy MC at least had a game plan and probably got the best out of what he had. I looked down at one stage and COR, BC & SB were standing in a huddle, I think the 3 of them could have went on yesterday and did better than what we had in the full forward line and that is embarrassing to say. If you think Lenihan is the 2nd best forward in the county I give up. thelutch (Meath) - Posts: 1073 - 24/04/2023 08:07:47 2473039 Link 1 |
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In fairness to those lads they not getting too excited by what they seen yesterday. A retired footballer from Rhode told me yesterday that he could not believe how poor Meath were and believe me, we are lucky this guy retired last year or we probably would have been bet out the gate if he was playing around the D. thelutch (Meath) - Posts: 1073 - 24/04/2023 08:12:48 2473040 Link 1 |
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This game felt like it was a round 8 of the league and all the same issues were there. I've almost a sense of relief not getting the win because I couldn't face losing to Louth again or if we made it to the final then getting a 20-30pt hammering from Dublin and another few scalps in the round robin which would set us back even further. This management team clearly isn't up to the job, we need some people in there with inter county experience who will drive this team on and put some structures in place, there hasn't been any encouragement or motivation coming from the sideline during games and our performances are a reflection of that. We'll probably be top seeds in the Tailteann Cup due to our league position which should give us some Div 3 & 4 teams in our group and a chance to get some results and confidence back but this current setup isn't the long term solution. LowerHogan (Meath) - Posts: 45 - 24/04/2023 08:38:44 2473046 Link 1 |