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Replying To bdbuddah: "No win in 4 games, I don't see us winning this one. At the best of times Newbridge is a hard place to go for away teams, Kildare are used to Newbridge but other teams fond it difficult playing on such a narrow pitch." I'd agree with that. And Kildare always up their game for Meath. A bad league for Glynn Ryan will be forgotten about if they beat Meath. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 25/03/2023 14:45:14 2466478 Link
Team named, think harnan is lucky to keep his place lynch has earned his starting spot for sure. Bench looks week enough. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 25/03/2023 14:46:27 2466480 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "I'd agree with that. And Kildare always up their game for Meath. A bad league for Glynn Ryan will be forgotten about if they beat Meath." You're talking as if beating Meath these days is some sort of a great achievement. Kildare have been atrocious this year and tomorrow is nothing other than two middling counties playing for some local bragging rights. That being said , as someone who lives on the border between the two counties the level of interest in tomorrow's match is very low and is a reflection of where both counties are at. 11jm11 (Kildare) - Posts: 367 - 25/03/2023 16:07:32 2466516 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "I'd agree with that. And Kildare always up their game for Meath. A bad league for Glynn Ryan will be forgotten about if they beat Meath." A bit delusional there in fairness. Like everyone else, kildare probably see Meath as a soft touch and a handy chance of a few points . Nobody has to get up to beat Meath anymore. Over the last 15 16 years, we've slowly but surely lost every aspect of the football identity we had , culminating in the team we have now which are so far removed from, and unrecognisable as, a meath team. Soft, not particularly fit, no fight be it for ball or man. Struggle for scores. It's not this teams fault of course and their effort and commitment can't be faulted or questioned. They are young and hopefully the influx of 20s with a winning mentality over the next few years will help bring us back to some semblance of a Meath team. If you disagree with any of this you have your head in the sand and just dont want to believe it I'm afraid southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 937 - 26/03/2023 08:42:14 2466596 Link
Best wishes to Colm and the team today. We need a good performance to end a bad league. Also a win would guarantee us all ire football. Hon the royal royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 26/03/2023 09:53:43 2466609 Link
Replying To 11jm11: "You're talking as if beating Meath these days is some sort of a great achievement. Kildare have been atrocious this year and tomorrow is nothing other than two middling counties playing for some local bragging rights. That being said , as someone who lives on the border between the two counties the level of interest in tomorrow's match is very low and is a reflection of where both counties are at." It is for Kildare for some reason. You need to ask ur fellow county residents why that is. Tbh we are indifferent to Kildare. I would agree with you though that both Meath and Kildare have been useless this year. Let's hope for a better showing from both today. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 26/03/2023 09:55:46 2466611 Link
Best of luck Colm and the lads. Incredibly nervous bout this one. If we lose then it's goodnight Vienna for this management team. No win in 7 just shouldn't happen and we need to do a Limerick and jettison these underperforming coaches and manager. And maybe give the job to Eamonn Murray, if he's willing to take it on. Can see this one being close but our recent results will mean we will falter at the finish line. Kildare by +9 Evernal (Meath) - Posts: 74 - 26/03/2023 10:48:12 2466617 Link
Best of luck to the lads today. 2 very average teams so expect a close encounter although i am struggling to see where we are going to get scores from. Will need our half forward line to chip in with 60% of our scores as i cant see our full forward line putting up a score. If Daniel Flynn starts and chooses to play his A game he could best us on his own unfortunately. Fingers Crossed. thelutch (Meath) - Posts: 1073 - 26/03/2023 11:50:09 2466633 Link
Replying To Evernal: "Best of luck Colm and the lads. Incredibly nervous bout this one. If we lose then it's goodnight Vienna for this management team. No win in 7 just shouldn't happen and we need to do a Limerick and jettison these underperforming coaches and manager. And maybe give the job to Eamonn Murray, if he's willing to take it on. Can see this one being close but our recent results will mean we will falter at the finish line. Kildare by +9" We're a bang average totally being honest going down a division would be the best thing possible would open some fans eyes to how poor we are and we might actually win a trophy or more then 2 or 3 games Meathfor@life (Meath) - Posts: 85 - 26/03/2023 14:34:44 2466670 Link
Replying To Meathfor@life: "We're a bang average totally being honest going down a division would be the best thing possible would open some fans eyes to how poor we are and we might actually win a trophy or more then 2 or 3 games" Its very deflating as a Meath person to see us where we are , We are staying in division 2 by pure default really , 2 wins at the start were godsends however I have seen nothing in this league campaign to suggest we are on the right track at least. Nothing. thelutch (Meath) - Posts: 1073 - 26/03/2023 15:37:47 2466695 Link
Replying To thelutch: "Its very deflating as a Meath person to see us where we are , We are staying in division 2 by pure default really , 2 wins at the start were godsends however I have seen nothing in this league campaign to suggest we are on the right track at least. Nothing." Don't really want to get into management too much with how poor the squad is but how he got the job in the first place is madness he's no clue about modern day football and his coaching staff is a terrible standard just because the lad done well for the ladies doesn't mean he will do same for us best thing for me anyways is just get rid of him now before lads start sending letters to his house he deserves better then that Meathfor@life (Meath) - Posts: 85 - 26/03/2023 15:42:26 2466704 Link
On the road home from Newbridge. Going into the game I must say I wasnt expecting much, I hoped for a spirited performance but knew without Keogan and with the look of the half forward and full forward lines that we were in trouble. It was a very flat atmosphere. Two exceptionally average teams. Kildare were never losing it after the first 10/15 minutes when Meath worked hard to create opportunity but kicked two wides and Kildare went up the field and scored 0-3 with no reply in a 5 minute period. The small pitch, matched with Kildare's better physicality and ability to play directly, and Kildare's better options off the bench meant that they took their scores throughout, and Meath struggled to score until Lenihan came on, who was a free-taking option, our only free taking option, and kicked over 3/4. I cant really say anything I havent said before. A 5 point loss that flatters Meath and we look ahead to the championship. Young_gael (Meath) - Posts: 596 - 26/03/2023 16:07:54 2466726 Link
Replying To Meathfor@life: "We're a bang average totally being honest going down a division would be the best thing possible would open some fans eyes to how poor we are and we might actually win a trophy or more then 2 or 3 games" Its very deflating as a Meath person to see us where we are , We are staying in division 2 by pure default really , 2 wins at the start were godsends however I have seen nothing in this league campaign to suggest we are on the right track at least. Nothing. thelutch (Meath) - Posts: 1073 - 26/03/2023 16:22:55 2466735 Link
Very poor overall performance to day. Only positive Ronan Jones continues to show promise. However , this team and management now qualify for intensive care unit by way of treatment Im sure Colm O Rourke as manager will without delay embark on a full review of everything and everyone and their performance so far including his own as manager/co-ordinator. He carries the can.full stop! His willingnes and ability to do this review fully should be the ONLY measurement of his performance as manager so far. Areas of coaching and teamwork are simply not at intercounty level so far.As in any management position in any capacity performance and results are measured at various stages . This has to be done NOW . That is absolutely vital ! Action plan to improve standards on and off the field have to be implemented . I assume Colm believes that could and will be seen to pay dividends within the 2 years he mentioned. The effectiveness of Colm as manager cannot be decided WITHOUT the opportunity for him to display the requirements for him to have a no holes barred review and instigate an action plan for improvement. Backroom team need to wake up also. Anyway Colm will deal with that i assume as part of the review. If this critical review is not facilited for the good of Meath football then that person/s should go without delay regardless of who that might be. Yes it is early to draw conclusions about the future .It is NOT too early to stop the lights at least and have a good hard look because after these few matches more of the same is simply not acceptable. I am NOT anti COR and never was but i want him to REALLY take stock in this critical review. I want him to continue because he deserves the chance to improve things in a job that was always going to be very tough anyway. SERIOUS REVIEW has to happen though nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1266 - 26/03/2023 16:47:43 2466754 Link
The easiest thing to do now would be moan and complain! We have stayed in Division 2 and the fact remains we are on the better side of the draw in Leinster and have a decent chance of making a Leinster final So realistically no different a position than most would have expected at the start of the league! I know performances have been poor - and for me it is more a lack of game plan that stands out rather than a lack of effort or commitment from the lads! Hard and all as it may seem we gotta get behind the lads and hope that management can come up with a game plan to meet the challenges ahead! Royalblufill (Meath) - Posts: 511 - 26/03/2023 17:02:44 2466769 Link
Replying To nobull456: "Very poor overall performance to day. Only positive Ronan Jones continues to show promise. However , this team and management now qualify for intensive care unit by way of treatment Im sure Colm O Rourke as manager will without delay embark on a full review of everything and everyone and their performance so far including his own as manager/co-ordinator. He carries the can.full stop! His willingnes and ability to do this review fully should be the ONLY measurement of his performance as manager so far. Areas of coaching and teamwork are simply not at intercounty level so far.As in any management position in any capacity performance and results are measured at various stages . This has to be done NOW . That is absolutely vital ! Action plan to improve standards on and off the field have to be implemented . I assume Colm believes that could and will be seen to pay dividends within the 2 years he mentioned. The effectiveness of Colm as manager cannot be decided WITHOUT the opportunity for him to display the requirements for him to have a no holes barred review and instigate an action plan for improvement. Backroom team need to wake up also. Anyway Colm will deal with that i assume as part of the review. If this critical review is not facilited for the good of Meath football then that person/s should go without delay regardless of who that might be. Yes it is early to draw conclusions about the future .It is NOT too early to stop the lights at least and have a good hard look because after these few matches more of the same is simply not acceptable. I am NOT anti COR and never was but i want him to REALLY take stock in this critical review. I want him to continue because he deserves the chance to improve things in a job that was always going to be very tough anyway. SERIOUS REVIEW has to happen though" A good, positive post and all fair points but the bottom line remains this: The players are not there. You could get Jim Gavin, Jim mcGuinness, Boylan, Mickey Harte, Pep Guardiola, Jurgen Klopp, Andy Farrell in as a management supergroup and the outcome would not change. You could get the good lord himself to come down from upon high and manage this panel and not a whole pile would change. The players are not there. Young_gael (Meath) - Posts: 596 - 26/03/2023 17:07:19 2466774 Link
I am hearing a lot of nonsense about players not being there from some of the same fellas who said we need to be aiming for div 1 last year. It's as simple as this..have Louth got a better pick of players than meath? I would say they don't. What do they have...a top proven intercounty management set up. So that puts the talent excuse out the window imo Ed2010 (Meath) - Posts: 109 - 26/03/2023 17:15:20 2466776 Link
Replying To Ed2010: "I am hearing a lot of nonsense about players not being there from some of the same fellas who said we need to be aiming for div 1 last year. It's as simple as this..have Louth got a better pick of players than meath? I would say they don't. What do they have...a top proven intercounty management set up. So that puts the talent excuse out the window imo" But Ed, football is an amatuer game. What is happening in Louth atm is great for them, and fair play to them and to their management, but you and I, and the dogs on the street know that Louth will rebound in another year or two or three and will end up back where they started, which is a Division 3 outfit. Thats reality. Theyre riding on the crest of a wave at the moment and im delighted for them and for other counties such as Fermanagh, Derry, Cavan in the last few years but there are sharp highs and lows in this game and we know that all in all there is a natural order where the counties tend to sit if all their resources (i.e., players, conditioning, motivation) are in order. Since the early 2010s Meath has not produced previously accepted levels and has declined slowly. This cannot be blamed on one man every few years. Meath people have an obsession this past 10/15 years with blaming managers and coaches for mediocrity and wanting to change the management if they are seeing a bad period, however the players available are not capable of taking Meath football to where we want to go. That doesent mean they cant improve quickly, find a patch of form and reach the Leinster final in a few months for example, which they very well might, but the overall outlook isnt anywhere near what many Meath supporters think it is. Thats my overall point. Young_gael (Meath) - Posts: 596 - 26/03/2023 17:29:02 2466789 Link
While there are many, many negatives about today's display. It has to be said Ronan Jones is playing great, getting through a tonne of work . Comfortably our best player the last few games. TobinsBeard (Meath) - Posts: 126 - 26/03/2023 18:17:25 2466824 Link
Replying To Young_gael: "A good, positive post and all fair points but the bottom line remains this: The players are not there. You could get Jim Gavin, Jim mcGuinness, Boylan, Mickey Harte, Pep Guardiola, Jurgen Klopp, Andy Farrell in as a management supergroup and the outcome would not change. You could get the good lord himself to come down from upon high and manage this panel and not a whole pile would change. The players are not there." Agreed...We dont have enough players at the required standard .no question . My point is that our coaching standards are not good enough to bring on players to the required standard . Only when it can be seen that each player is playing to his full potential can we really say the players are not there. When you see the poor ball control etc you wonder what are coaches doing, and what happens at training sessions ?? In simple we could do a lot better with what we have got. I know it can seem harsh to be critical of players .BUT when you put on the jersey that is a big honour and compensation for the massive effort required on the players part. I assume Colm will have a shopping list for the county board after this review. If we want to be competitive again we will have to get in the required expertise like the successful counties do. If we just want to continue as we are well we should continue to refrain from asking awkward questions ! Players deserve the best ! You can have all the game plans you like if you dont have the footballing skills and inteligence to implement them you can forget it. I suggest that what coaching is about nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1266 - 26/03/2023 18:42:28 2466842 Link