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Replying To BigJoe14: "It is indeed. Well done to the Meath CCC." No football in summer. No football at weekends. Why are they doing that?
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Replying To Blackspot09: "Well Donal Lenihan for one. Michael Murphy as well who is on the meath panel. Maybe not a big gun as such but obviously if he's on the Meath panel he's one of Dunboynes best players" It looks like anyone that didn't start or played less than half a game was able to play for their club from what I can see from the games, makes sense for the lads on the bench and extended panel to keep them sharp
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Replying To ratlag: "It looks like anyone that didn't start or played less than half a game was able to play for their club from what I can see from the games, makes sense for the lads on the bench and extended panel to keep them sharp" Absolutely. Makes sense 100% and fair play to management for releasing the players. Certainly wasn't criticising Dunboyne for him playing just pointing out that he did. No idea how he got on but I'm sure he got a few scores to help Dunboyne get the win.
Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 870 - 08/06/2023 17:02:50
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Replying To Blackspot09: "Absolutely. Makes sense 100% and fair play to management for releasing the players. Certainly wasn't criticising Dunboyne for him playing just pointing out that he did. No idea how he got on but I'm sure he got a few scores to help Dunboyne get the win." Lenihan scored 9 points, 7 from frees (a few he won himself), so doing his chances no harm of been included from the start against Wexford, Michael Murphy came on at half time and looked impressive, so all good for Colm O' Rourke. Jack Kinlough did not tog out as he starting the Leaving the next day. Under strength Dunshaughlin as well as not having Conor Gray & Mathew Costello unavailable were also missing a lot of regulars. Result meant Dunboyne are safe and leaves Dunshaughlin having to beat Simonstown to avoid dropping down and hoping Skryne or Na Fianna lose.
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With one round left a lot to play for who do we predict is getting promoted
The Bracks v Michael's looks like the tie of the round
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How is nobody on here not talking about the tones conceding to Colmcilles
Pretty bad form from a senior club 1st team
This should be not allowed
Some sanction should be imposed on a first team conceding especially in 1A
Awaywin (Meath) - Posts: 100 - 15/06/2023 22:25:38
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1A
Ratoath already in the final and the second spot between St.ColmCilles (home to Dunboyne) and Summerhill (Home to Ashbourne). Colmcilles hold the head to head so I would imagine it would be them meeting Ratoath in the final as I don't see either team losing their final game.
Trim already gone and the last spot between Dunshaughlin, Na Fianna and Skryne. Dunshaughlin need to beat Simonstown and hope that Skryne lose to Ratoath or NaFianna lose to Kells. Having lost to both Skryne and Na Fianna a draw won't do them. On form its hard to see Dunshaughlin winning their game but they did manage a great win over Tones a few weeks back so it is possible and if they do their neighbours Ratoath should do them a favour and beat a poor Skryne team.
Final: Ratoath v St. Colmcilles
Relegation: Trim and Skryne
1B
This is a lot more straight forward. Navan already in the final with the winner of Michaels and the Bracks joining them, and in the relegation Curraha are definitely gone with the loser of Rathkenny and Dunderry joining them (Dunderry stay up if they get a draw either).
Final: Navan v Ballinabrackey
Relegation: Curraha and Dunderry
2A
3 way tie at the top with Meath Hill, Dunsany and St Pats all tied on 18 points. All three have beaten each other so it comes down to score difference then as far as I am aware which Meath Hill are a way out in front with +132. St. Pats next with +79 and then Dunsany with +59. Its hard to see Dunsany outscoring Pats by 20points away to Ballivor even though they should win so it looks to me like the positions won't change with Meath Hill playing Don/Ash seconds on the same night that their seniors play (genius by the fixtures committee) and St Pats with a tricky tie against Nobber but should still have enough.
Relegation done and dusted with Dunshaughlin and Drumbaragh set for the drop.
Final: Meath Hill v St.Pats
Relegation: Dunshaughlin and Drumbaragh
2B
Ultans already in the final with Ratoath, Clan Na Gael and Castletown all tied on 10points below them. Ratoath hold the head to head having bet both teams in their last two games and should be able to beat Dunboyne seconds based on current form.
Skryne already relegated and Longwood need a win against Kells coupled with Ratoath beating Dunboyne to avoid the drop. I can see both of these things happening and so think Dunboyne will be the ones joining Skryne in 3A next year.
Final: Ultans v Ratoath
Relegation: Skryne and Dunboyne
3A
A very interesting one. St Colmcilles (4th) play Moylagh (3rd) with the winner eliminating the other team (Moylagh will have lost to both St. Colmcilles and Kilbride if all teams finish on 12 points which puts them bottom of the pile on head to head). St. Brigids play Moynalty away needing only a draw to clinch a final spot. However if they lose and both Kilbride and Moylagh win that will leave the 3 teams on 14points. All 3 teams have beaten each other which should leave it at score difference which stand as follows (St Brigids +35, Kilbride +37, Moylagh +60) so it will be very interesting how the last round of games goes.
Kilmainhamwood are already gone and with trim's last game against Kilbride I can't see them not joining them.
Final: St Brigids v Kilbride
Relegation: Kilmainham Wood and Trim
3B
The only division that is already decided before the final round of games.
Final: Slane v Cortown
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Replying To ratlag: "1A
Ratoath already in the final and the second spot between St.ColmCilles (home to Dunboyne) and Summerhill (Home to Ashbourne). Colmcilles hold the head to head so I would imagine it would be them meeting Ratoath in the final as I don't see either team losing their final game.
Trim already gone and the last spot between Dunshaughlin, Na Fianna and Skryne. Dunshaughlin need to beat Simonstown and hope that Skryne lose to Ratoath or NaFianna lose to Kells. Having lost to both Skryne and Na Fianna a draw won't do them. On form its hard to see Dunshaughlin winning their game but they did manage a great win over Tones a few weeks back so it is possible and if they do their neighbours Ratoath should do them a favour and beat a poor Skryne team.
Final: Ratoath v St. Colmcilles
Relegation: Trim and Skryne
1B
This is a lot more straight forward. Navan already in the final with the winner of Michaels and the Bracks joining them, and in the relegation Curraha are definitely gone with the loser of Rathkenny and Dunderry joining them (Dunderry stay up if they get a draw either).
Final: Navan v Ballinabrackey
Relegation: Curraha and Dunderry
2A
3 way tie at the top with Meath Hill, Dunsany and St Pats all tied on 18 points. All three have beaten each other so it comes down to score difference then as far as I am aware which Meath Hill are a way out in front with +132. St. Pats next with +79 and then Dunsany with +59. Its hard to see Dunsany outscoring Pats by 20points away to Ballivor even though they should win so it looks to me like the positions won't change with Meath Hill playing Don/Ash seconds on the same night that their seniors play (genius by the fixtures committee) and St Pats with a tricky tie against Nobber but should still have enough.
Relegation done and dusted with Dunshaughlin and Drumbaragh set for the drop.
Final: Meath Hill v St.Pats
Relegation: Dunshaughlin and Drumbaragh
2B
Ultans already in the final with Ratoath, Clan Na Gael and Castletown all tied on 10points below them. Ratoath hold the head to head having bet both teams in their last two games and should be able to beat Dunboyne seconds based on current form.
Skryne already relegated and Longwood need a win against Kells coupled with Ratoath beating Dunboyne to avoid the drop. I can see both of these things happening and so think Dunboyne will be the ones joining Skryne in 3A next year.
Final: Ultans v Ratoath
Relegation: Skryne and Dunboyne
3A
A very interesting one. St Colmcilles (4th) play Moylagh (3rd) with the winner eliminating the other team (Moylagh will have lost to both St. Colmcilles and Kilbride if all teams finish on 12 points which puts them bottom of the pile on head to head). St. Brigids play Moynalty away needing only a draw to clinch a final spot. However if they lose and both Kilbride and Moylagh win that will leave the 3 teams on 14points. All 3 teams have beaten each other which should leave it at score difference which stand as follows (St Brigids +35, Kilbride +37, Moylagh +60) so it will be very interesting how the last round of games goes.
Kilmainhamwood are already gone and with trim's last game against Kilbride I can't see them not joining them.
Final: St Brigids v Kilbride
Relegation: Kilmainham Wood and Trim
3B
The only division that is already decided before the final round of games.
Final: Slane v Cortown" Note that some of the divisions in the league have been affected by walkovers which means in the case of teams being tied, score difference across all games goes out the window. This means it would boil down to head to heads and then score difference between only the teams involved competing for positions. It's in the rules section for the League Competitions for Meath.
winatallcost (Meath) - Posts: 511 - 16/06/2023 11:42:51
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Replying To ratlag: "1A
Ratoath already in the final and the second spot between St.ColmCilles (home to Dunboyne) and Summerhill (Home to Ashbourne). Colmcilles hold the head to head so I would imagine it would be them meeting Ratoath in the final as I don't see either team losing their final game.
Trim already gone and the last spot between Dunshaughlin, Na Fianna and Skryne. Dunshaughlin need to beat Simonstown and hope that Skryne lose to Ratoath or NaFianna lose to Kells. Having lost to both Skryne and Na Fianna a draw won't do them. On form its hard to see Dunshaughlin winning their game but they did manage a great win over Tones a few weeks back so it is possible and if they do their neighbours Ratoath should do them a favour and beat a poor Skryne team.
Final: Ratoath v St. Colmcilles
Relegation: Trim and Skryne
1B
This is a lot more straight forward. Navan already in the final with the winner of Michaels and the Bracks joining them, and in the relegation Curraha are definitely gone with the loser of Rathkenny and Dunderry joining them (Dunderry stay up if they get a draw either).
Final: Navan v Ballinabrackey
Relegation: Curraha and Dunderry
2A
3 way tie at the top with Meath Hill, Dunsany and St Pats all tied on 18 points. All three have beaten each other so it comes down to score difference then as far as I am aware which Meath Hill are a way out in front with +132. St. Pats next with +79 and then Dunsany with +59. Its hard to see Dunsany outscoring Pats by 20points away to Ballivor even though they should win so it looks to me like the positions won't change with Meath Hill playing Don/Ash seconds on the same night that their seniors play (genius by the fixtures committee) and St Pats with a tricky tie against Nobber but should still have enough.
Relegation done and dusted with Dunshaughlin and Drumbaragh set for the drop.
Final: Meath Hill v St.Pats
Relegation: Dunshaughlin and Drumbaragh
2B
Ultans already in the final with Ratoath, Clan Na Gael and Castletown all tied on 10points below them. Ratoath hold the head to head having bet both teams in their last two games and should be able to beat Dunboyne seconds based on current form.
Skryne already relegated and Longwood need a win against Kells coupled with Ratoath beating Dunboyne to avoid the drop. I can see both of these things happening and so think Dunboyne will be the ones joining Skryne in 3A next year.
Final: Ultans v Ratoath
Relegation: Skryne and Dunboyne
3A
A very interesting one. St Colmcilles (4th) play Moylagh (3rd) with the winner eliminating the other team (Moylagh will have lost to both St. Colmcilles and Kilbride if all teams finish on 12 points which puts them bottom of the pile on head to head). St. Brigids play Moynalty away needing only a draw to clinch a final spot. However if they lose and both Kilbride and Moylagh win that will leave the 3 teams on 14points. All 3 teams have beaten each other which should leave it at score difference which stand as follows (St Brigids +35, Kilbride +37, Moylagh +60) so it will be very interesting how the last round of games goes.
Kilmainhamwood are already gone and with trim's last game against Kilbride I can't see them not joining them.
Final: St Brigids v Kilbride
Relegation: Kilmainham Wood and Trim
3B
The only division that is already decided before the final round of games.
Final: Slane v Cortown" Great summary of all the league standings, fair play.
In Div 2B, due to giving a walkover in an earlier round, Ratoath's 2nd team's fate is not entirely in their own hands. Wins for Castletown or Clann na nGael could see either team promoted.
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Replying To oceanofnoise: "Great summary of all the league standings, fair play.
In Div 2B, due to giving a walkover in an earlier round, Ratoath's 2nd team's fate is not entirely in their own hands. Wins for Castletown or Clann na nGael could see either team promoted." Some of information not accurate based on my previous post so needs to be reviewed!
winatallcost (Meath) - Posts: 511 - 16/06/2023 12:31:41
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Replying To Awaywin: "How is nobody on here not talking about the tones conceding to Colmcilles
Pretty bad form from a senior club 1st team
This should be not allowed
Some sanction should be imposed on a first team conceding especially in 1A" Just proves how meaningless the league has become in the overall scheme of things. Between county players basically not appearing in any league games to teams not really bothered whether they go up or down as it has next to no consequences during championship. The county board have set the tone by basically racing though 11 rounds at break neck speed just to get it done and out of the way.
BigJoe14 (Meath) - Posts: 935 - 16/06/2023 13:14:46
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Replying To oceanofnoise: "Great summary of all the league standings, fair play.
In Div 2B, due to giving a walkover in an earlier round, Ratoath's 2nd team's fate is not entirely in their own hands. Wins for Castletown or Clann na nGael could see either team promoted." Yes walk overs will remove the score difference decider if any of the teams involved have been affected by one as it means theres a game less played which makes sense.
In the case of 2B however, Ratoath, Castletown and Clan Na Gael have all played each other and none of them benefitted from a walkover (gained points in order to move up the table) so I would have assumed that they would come down to head to head and then score difference as Ratoath gave their walkover to Ultans (Again due to County board stupidity of fixing first and second team games on the same night). Ratoath have in essence played one game less and managed to get the same amount of points so it hardly seems right to punish them again??
ratlag (Meath) - Posts: 557 - 16/06/2023 14:34:43
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Replying To ratlag: "Yes walk overs will remove the score difference decider if any of the teams involved have been affected by one as it means theres a game less played which makes sense.
In the case of 2B however, Ratoath, Castletown and Clan Na Gael have all played each other and none of them benefitted from a walkover (gained points in order to move up the table) so I would have assumed that they would come down to head to head and then score difference as Ratoath gave their walkover to Ultans (Again due to County board stupidity of fixing first and second team games on the same night). Ratoath have in essence played one game less and managed to get the same amount of points so it hardly seems right to punish them again??" From the document "2023 League Format & Regulations v1" on the Meath GAA website
"In the event that two teams or more finish with equal points, but have been affected by a disqualification, loss of game on a proven objection, retirement or walk over, the tie shall be decided by the following means and in the order specified:
i. Least number of games forfeited
ii. Points awarded from the games in which only the teams involved, (teams tied on points),
have played each other.
iii. Score Difference from the games in which only the teams involved, (teams tied on points),
have played each other. (subtracting the total Scores Against from total Scores For)
iv. Highest Total Score For, in which only the teams involved, have played each other, and have
finished equal in (i)
v. Highest Number of Goals Scored, in which only the teams involved, have played each other,
and have finished equal in (i) and (ii).
vi. Lowest Number of Goals Conceded, in which only the teams involved, have played each
other, and have finished equal in (i), (ii) and (iii)
vii. Play - Off."
So my understanding is that if Ratoath and Clann na nGael finish level on points, then by virtue of conceding a walkover (regardless of the opposition), Ratoath would lose out on rule number (i) "Least number of games forfeited. The reason being that Clann na nGael have not forfeited any games thus far. If they were to give a walkover vs Carnaross next Tuesday, then rules number ii, iii etc would come into play.
But that's just my interpretation, and I'm open to correction!
oceanofnoise (Meath) - Posts: 44 - 16/06/2023 17:36:43
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Replying To ratlag: "Yes walk overs will remove the score difference decider if any of the teams involved have been affected by one as it means theres a game less played which makes sense.
In the case of 2B however, Ratoath, Castletown and Clan Na Gael have all played each other and none of them benefitted from a walkover (gained points in order to move up the table) so I would have assumed that they would come down to head to head and then score difference as Ratoath gave their walkover to Ultans (Again due to County board stupidity of fixing first and second team games on the same night). Ratoath have in essence played one game less and managed to get the same amount of points so it hardly seems right to punish them again??" That's fair enough with 2B but what about 1A and 3A. Perhaps what you had mentioned earlier may need some review also. Misinformation can be misleading if passed around!
winatallcost (Meath) - Posts: 511 - 16/06/2023 17:39:50
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Replying To Awaywin: "How is nobody on here not talking about the tones conceding to Colmcilles
Pretty bad form from a senior club 1st team
This should be not allowed
Some sanction should be imposed on a first team conceding especially in 1A" Didn't realise the game was conceded. Obviously Tones had just won the Gaeltacht All Ireland and would have been in no shape to play on the Tuesday but I assumed the game was just postponed.
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Replying To winatallcost: "That's fair enough with 2B but what about 1A and 3A. Perhaps what you had mentioned earlier may need some review also. Misinformation can be misleading if passed around!" My post was only my interpretation of the leagues and I wasn't aware of the forfeit rule.
However 1A is still fully accurate and 3A none of the top teams have given a walkover so I don't understand what you mean by misinformation?
ratlag (Meath) - Posts: 557 - 19/06/2023 09:12:22
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Replying To royal11: "Didn't realise the game was conceded. Obviously Tones had just won the Gaeltacht All Ireland and would have been in no shape to play on the Tuesday but I assumed the game was just postponed." No excuse for a senior team operating in Division 1 not being able to pull together 16 17 players to fulfill a fixture that had a good bit riding on it.
They should start next seasons league campaign on -2 points
Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 870 - 19/06/2023 11:31:06
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Replying To royal11: "Didn't realise the game was conceded. Obviously Tones had just won the Gaeltacht All Ireland and would have been in no shape to play on the Tuesday but I assumed the game was just postponed." The game they conceded was the following week
No excuses except a bit of arrogance I'd say
Awaywin (Meath) - Posts: 100 - 19/06/2023 14:36:03
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Replying To Awaywin: "The game they conceded was the following week
No excuses except a bit of arrogance I'd say" Correct
Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 870 - 19/06/2023 15:21:04
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Replying To ratlag: "My post was only my interpretation of the leagues and I wasn't aware of the forfeit rule.
However 1A is still fully accurate and 3A none of the top teams have given a walkover so I don't understand what you mean by misinformation?" The text is affected by a walkover and not given one!
winatallcost (Meath) - Posts: 511 - 20/06/2023 08:05:51
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