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It's funny how McGill wasn't really spoken about much when he was on the team; not criticised, but not praised much either. Our record with him playing (at least 8 years worth) was also decidedly mixed.

Yet now that he's dropped he's apparently better than Jack Quinn, Mick Lyons and Darren Fay put together.

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1643 - 05/03/2023 19:50:42    2462082

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Previous poster made the point but its something that's becoming a bit more noticeable - our lads look a good bit off the pace fitness wise. Could just be them still adapting to new S&C routines and may serve us better later in the year, but it's worrying to see early on.

RR (Meath) - Posts: 139 - 05/03/2023 19:53:50    2462085

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Replying To CastleBravo:  "It's funny how McGill wasn't really spoken about much when he was on the team; not criticised, but not praised much either. Our record with him playing (at least 8 years worth) was also decidedly mixed.

Yet now that he's dropped he's apparently better than Jack Quinn, Mick Lyons and Darren Fay put together."
Exactly.
And more to the point, flood has been very good and deserves to hold his place, regardless of who's there.

Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6342 - 05/03/2023 20:02:17    2462091

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Replying To CastleBravo:  "It's funny how McGill wasn't really spoken about much when he was on the team; not criticised, but not praised much either. Our record with him playing (at least 8 years worth) was also decidedly mixed.

Yet now that he's dropped he's apparently better than Jack Quinn, Mick Lyons and Darren Fay put together."
Well he's better anyone we have playing in the full back line at the moment.

Anyone who can't see that the full back like and the back 6 in general are nowhere good enough needs their head examined. Adam O'Neil is a find.

The rest including Keoghan are absolutely miles off it. Keoghan gets leeway because of the credit he has built up and also the fact I think he's been played out of position and I think come championship he will improve but they rest simply aren't good enough and I don't believe they will be.

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 870 - 05/03/2023 20:07:20    2462093

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Replying To CastleBravo:  "It's funny how McGill wasn't really spoken about much when he was on the team; not criticised, but not praised much either. Our record with him playing (at least 8 years worth) was also decidedly mixed.

Yet now that he's dropped he's apparently better than Jack Quinn, Mick Lyons and Darren Fay put together."
Completely agree with this. I thought he has been on the decline the last 2 or 3 years. I note he got player of the year but it wasn't that bad last year, it must have just been a raffle.

Maestro (Meath) - Posts: 569 - 05/03/2023 20:09:08    2462094

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I just can't see any game plan. What are we trying to do?? When We attack players just seem to want to run out and back around the 45 to get an easy pass. No one seems to have the courage or the ability to take the ball at pace and burst through. One thing I do notice is our defenders standing off. Look today when ball played in Walsh or Morris particularly in the first half his marker was usually tight to him getting a hand in or a hit on. We seem to let the opposition player get the ball easily first without any pressure.

Diego (Meath) - Posts: 1205 - 05/03/2023 20:19:37    2462101

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Replying To CastleBravo:  "It's funny how McGill wasn't really spoken about much when he was on the team; not criticised, but not praised much either. Our record with him playing (at least 8 years worth) was also decidedly mixed.

Yet now that he's dropped he's apparently better than Jack Quinn, Mick Lyons and Darren Fay put together."
Can't agree with this, we need all the players we have plus magill, menton and at least 4 or 5 more! We lead against louth while a man down and also today but have no game management, if Flood is better in training then play him ahead of McGill but McGill off the bench offers alot!

Royalroller (Meath) - Posts: 85 - 05/03/2023 20:19:48    2462102

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Replying To RR:  "Previous poster made the point but its something that's becoming a bit more noticeable - our lads look a good bit off the pace fitness wise. Could just be them still adapting to new S&C routines and may serve us better later in the year, but it's worrying to see early on."
S&C is built up over years, not just in 3/4 months. Too many lads on panel who haven't been on county programmes I would say so will take time (and them staying on panel and motivated) for any progress there. As I said before the league, staying up will be an achievement despite it being a poor enough Div 2 this year apart from two teams who are miles ahead.

If we stay up it's a decent enough league campaign as no way we were gonna be ahead of Derry or Dublin with even any Meath team of last 10 years or so- might as well be 6th as 3rd.

Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 1318 - 05/03/2023 20:25:31    2462106

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Replying To seadog54:  "Thats aii we are going to hear, talking out of both sides of his mouth, when MacEntee took over he made it all about MOD week after week, now its Colms turn, will continue to post sly digs, while telling us COR has his full support. Cant wait to highlight the negative. Majority of posters realise this is a rebuilding project after many years of neglect and survival was the goal. The point today should see us safe, we may have to depend on other results going our way to make all Ireland series. Would like to see us play top tier in the summer, however if its TC so be it. Keep rebuilding and hope for better things next season."
U do post some ludicrous comments. But this has to be ur top notch one.
I can tell you one thing EVERYONE of the Meath people leaving that disaster today were embarrassed. But if that's good enough for you sitting at home fair enough. But for us that travel it is not.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 05/03/2023 20:28:00    2462108

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Replying To Jinxie:  "Exactly.
And more to the point, flood has been very good and deserves to hold his place, regardless of who's there."
Flood hasn't been very good. He has been fine. Mainly because he hasn't been exposed because the Opposition teams don't need to because they are getting so much joy elsewhere. But to say he's he's been very good is just inaccurate.

To say any defender in a defence that is conceeding the scores we are conceeding has been very good is just bizarre.

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 870 - 05/03/2023 20:45:58    2462120

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Replying To grahamc9897:  "Pity all the people still following this lot ! Say what you want McGill should be playing 3 today ! Its a failing on colm for not having him there ! Why was Harnan named at 12 and not in the squad ! Just strange ! This meath team are a waste of space ! No doubt ! The likes of dunners saying there gonna win by 10 plus ! Kildare will beat them next day no doubt ! Will be putting all i can muster on kildare ! Might as well make a few bob on our misery !"
This meath team is far from a waste of space and your post is embarrassing, yes the last three results has been disappointing and made worse after expectations went into overdrive after the cork game, this is a young meath side under a brand new management team and patience is going to be needed but I'm confident improvement will come, dublin in navan will be a big occasion let's get behind them and hope meath put in a huge performance and let's see where it takes us, we are particularly safe now unless freak results happen in both division 2 and Sam maguire so there's still allot to look forward and our season is far from over.

Royal.Legend (Meath) - Posts: 665 - 05/03/2023 20:46:04    2462121

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Replying To Royalroller:  "Can't agree with this, we need all the players we have plus magill, menton and at least 4 or 5 more! We lead against louth while a man down and also today but have no game management, if Flood is better in training then play him ahead of McGill but McGill off the bench offers alot!"
Absolute nonsense, he offers nothing as a starter or impact sub that Flood is not doing. Once again I will say it our midfield is not at the races. Unless we find an out and out midfield then we are going no place fast. As I said before this is a rebuild and it's going to take 2 or 3 years to see progress. It's hard to believe but that's it in a nutshell.

latouche25 (Meath) - Posts: 520 - 05/03/2023 20:51:48    2462128

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Replying To GenderNeutral:  "Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard!

There are players in Meath with as much technical ability as there is in Derry…but Derry players want to win, fight for every ball and go to war for each other. Until the basics are right and foundations laid…then the more things change, the more they stay the same!"
This. Colm's job now is to play to our strengths. Forget this bs talk of playing like Dublin or Kerry. We don't have the players to play like them. We play as a unit, hard to breakdown win 4 points to 3 , or whatever way. We have the same quality players around Meath as either Derry or Armagh. Yet we are abysmal.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 05/03/2023 20:54:36    2462131

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Replying To grahamc9897:  "Pity all the people still following this lot ! Say what you want McGill should be playing 3 today ! Its a failing on colm for not having him there ! Why was Harnan named at 12 and not in the squad ! Just strange ! This meath team are a waste of space ! No doubt ! The likes of dunners saying there gonna win by 10 plus ! Kildare will beat them next day no doubt ! Will be putting all i can muster on kildare ! Might as well make a few bob on our misery !"
Look I'm forever the optimist. But I got to say I'm worried. I think these next two years good put us back and do untold damage. I hope I'm wrong. But the thing with McGill is a worry and the way we let both louth and now limerick ffs dominate us in last quarter does not bode well going forward. But my optimism will prevail for the time being

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 05/03/2023 21:01:17    2462134

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Wasn't at the game and haven't seen it yet.

COR wasn't happy at half time though, made 3 changes including Walsh who was poor from what I heard.

UsernameInvalid (Meath) - Posts: 355 - 05/03/2023 21:05:42    2462136

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Pathetic display today, they did play better in the second half but the team looks so flat either unfit or burnt out . Apart from Ronan Jones running and Lenihan's introduction we had nothing else on the offering . Keeper kickout's have improved but i counted 3 maybe more though straight towards cos who is one of the smallest lads on the pitch - no logic to it at all. Keoghan and cos just a shadow of what they were a few years ago. Embarrassing that having 3 late 45s and not one player from 1 to 15 can kick it from that range . Been rebuilding for the last 13 years and we seem further away now then ever.

SheridansTry (Meath) - Posts: 180 - 05/03/2023 21:17:31    2462143

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Very frustrating, and that was just listening on the radio so I imagine being there was even more so, bottom line is it seems we had more than enough chances to win the game but the wides tally was chronic, we also had enough chances to win last Sunday, that coupled with conceding big scores in every game, even the ones we won, is a major concern, we were outscored 17 to 13 today and even though two of our 13 were goals that is simply not good enough against a Limerick team that before today were pointless and had a ferociously negative score difference. As I said before our own mistakes and inefficiencies in front of goal are killing us, but I agree we are a young side and it's going to take time, this was never going to be a quick fix, but if we sorted our own errors and took better care in front of goal we would be sitting on 8 points now instead of 5, it is very frustrating to be sure.

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 05/03/2023 21:29:37    2462150

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Replying To Blackspot09:  "Flood hasn't been very good. He has been fine. Mainly because he hasn't been exposed because the Opposition teams don't need to because they are getting so much joy elsewhere. But to say he's he's been very good is just inaccurate.

To say any defender in a defence that is conceeding the scores we are conceeding has been very good is just bizarre."
Agreed. Besides Adam O Neill our defenders haven't been coming out on top with the forwards that they're marking. I think we were lucky that some of the cork forwards only started playing better football after playing us like Hurley and Powter and calre were given too many shooting opportunities .Not looking forward to seeing us go up against o Callaghan and Costello or even Daniel Flynn for Kildare.

Wouldn't mind seeing o hare been given another chance at corner back

Royal.1 (Meath) - Posts: 29 - 05/03/2023 21:40:18    2462156

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Replying To UsernameInvalid:  "Wasn't at the game and haven't seen it yet.

COR wasn't happy at half time though, made 3 changes including Walsh who was poor from what I heard."
Honestly he could have made 8/9 changes at ht. wouldn't just single out walsh. First half as I said earlier only ones at the pace or doing anything was Costello O'Connor Flynn jones mcentee. Mcentee ran out of steam after 15 minutes of restart . I'll put that down to age catching up with him. And probably not having 70 mins in legs anymore. But he gives hogan options which we need. Cos was absent today and I can't believe I'm about to write this but keoghan just wasn't near his best at all. Scully disappointing. Honestly we lacked leadership and a game plan which seemed non existent , all in all one of the worst performances from Meath in a long long time. Up there with galway last year.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 05/03/2023 21:50:46    2462159

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Gonna try to keep off here for a few days without posting as some on here would rather criticise me than talk about the game, players or management. I'll leave them to it. I'll be back before dubs game with renewed enthusiasm and confidence. Yesterday took a lot out of every Meath supporter at match and a lot not at it. Onward and upward is all we can hope for.
Hon the royal

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 06/03/2023 07:53:38    2462172

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