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Meath Hurling 2023

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We'd already qualified for the final after beating Tyrone.

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1664 - 19/03/2023 16:39:22    2464796

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Yes already qualified after beating Tyrone, I wonder did that influence the team selection in London? Giving some a rest or injuries? Seems like it was a close match

Meathabu22 (Meath) - Posts: 7 - 19/03/2023 21:10:13    2464933

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Yes already qualified after beating Tyrone, I wonder did that influence the team selection in London? Giving some a rest or injuries? Seems like it was a close match

Meathabu22 (Meath) - Posts: 7 - 19/03/2023 21:12:29    2464936

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Replying To loyalroyal23:  "There are numerous other players good enough but aren't in there, Adam gannon Gavin McGowan paddy conneely, Patrick potterton, niall smullen, ciarain longeran, Brian o halloran, cian Rodgers Alan Douglas, Brian o reily but for some reason aren't willing to commit"
Think you're missing my point, yes most of them are good enough for the Meath team(some of them I haven't heard of) but they aren't available to us. One of them is out of the country, two are with the footballers, one is injured the last year and one has a young family. They won't be with Meath this year at least so our panel won't be getting much/any stronger.

Tobefair80 (Meath) - Posts: 70 - 20/03/2023 10:26:49    2465016

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Replying To Meathabu22:  "I can't see any reason why they won't win the christy ring and they certainly should win the league. There's been different players missing for every game so far but still they're winning. They haven't had a full team yet between injuries and suspension etc. No doubt the lads that are there are capable if winning. Having said that absolutely there are players in the county that should be on the panel, some not asked and some not wanting to commit. There's also some players in the panel that shouldn't be next or near it. I still think Meath should be contesting in two finals this years. Lets hope we get a good win in London this weekend"
I doubt there are any players in the county that are good enough that haven't been asked in, just doesn't make sense. We can all look at our own clubs and say we have lads that are good enough for the county team but we may be looking at them with rosé tinted glasses, if they are good enough they will be asked in.
Yes there are players on the panel that aren't good enough but most lower tier county's have that, they serve a purpose on the panel. I think our problem is the lack of players on the senior panel from the successful underage teams we have had, we still have some older players on the panel that weren't good enough 5 years ago but we still need them because the younger players aren't just coming through.
Also are our clubs doing enough? Town teams especially. Navan, kells, Ashbourne, Athboy, you could probably count on 1 hand the amount of players they have on the panel.

Tobefair80 (Meath) - Posts: 70 - 20/03/2023 10:44:15    2465033

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Replying To Tobefair80:  "I doubt there are any players in the county that are good enough that haven't been asked in, just doesn't make sense. We can all look at our own clubs and say we have lads that are good enough for the county team but we may be looking at them with rosé tinted glasses, if they are good enough they will be asked in.
Yes there are players on the panel that aren't good enough but most lower tier county's have that, they serve a purpose on the panel. I think our problem is the lack of players on the senior panel from the successful underage teams we have had, we still have some older players on the panel that weren't good enough 5 years ago but we still need them because the younger players aren't just coming through.
Also are our clubs doing enough? Town teams especially. Navan, kells, Ashbourne, Athboy, you could probably count on 1 hand the amount of players they have on the panel."
It's a big step up to senior county team for younger players surely they would benefit from training at this level for a couple of years, at least they have the potential to improve in strength fitness and skill. I just think this league and christy ring is the time to build because if they win next year will be much tougher and a bigger step up for younger players. If they're not up to speed at least give them a chance to get there. They don't have to be the next "super star" but surely there's young lads that could hold their own and do a similar job to some of the older players who are not actually the most skillfull hurlers? Absolutely need a balance of youth and experience and there's plenty of experienced hurlers but definitely one or two that weren't good enough ten years ago still getting game time that would probably struggle to get on other club teams never mind on the meath team. Not knocking the players at all it takes serious dedication to play County but just would wonder if the manager has bigger picture in mind for next year

Meathabu22 (Meath) - Posts: 7 - 20/03/2023 16:38:21    2465289

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All in all lads its been a successful league. New players have been blooded and we have remained unbeaten. Although we are playing against so called weaker teams than us they still need to be beaten. Great result in London at the weekend, its always a tough place to go.
Christy Ring is the priority and there is no reason they shouldnt be winning it. The issue is making the step up to Joe McD level. We are just trapped atm with being too good for CR but not good enough for Joe McD.

You would have to be envious of Kildare who we actually relegated to the CR cup two years ago.

bountyboy22 (USA) - Posts: 37 - 21/03/2023 09:46:15    2465401

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It's hard to know where hurling in Meath stands. This year's Minor Hurlers did not perform at all against Westmeath. Last year, the same team beat Laios, Offaly, Westmeath, Kerry, Kildare. What has happened from U16s to U17s? What are other County's doing different with this age group?

TownJohnT (Meath) - Posts: 86 - 22/03/2023 12:33:30    2465739

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Replying To TownJohnT:  "It's hard to know where hurling in Meath stands. This year's Minor Hurlers did not perform at all against Westmeath. Last year, the same team beat Laios, Offaly, Westmeath, Kerry, Kildare. What has happened from U16s to U17s? What are other County's doing different with this age group?"
I don't think you can judge a team by one performance , they beat down this weekend they're through. U16 is only development with top tier county's having multiple u16 squads , so the teams you have mentioned could be only 2nd/3rd string teams. Just like Meath football having multiple development squads with 30/35 on each squad , meath hurling is not at that stage yet. Minors are coming off An all Ireland B championship last year which was a great boost for hurling in the county. On the back of that there's only 4 players on the Meath u20 panel this year which is very strange. We have no development squads like other top hurling county's between minor and u20 and with that team only 4 players being picked how are we meant the hurlers coming through. Questions have to be asked on u20 management and the hurling board! We're still lacking in a lot of areas.

Joe_soap1 (Meath) - Posts: 83 - 22/03/2023 14:46:34    2465795

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Replying To Joe_soap1:  "I don't think you can judge a team by one performance , they beat down this weekend they're through. U16 is only development with top tier county's having multiple u16 squads , so the teams you have mentioned could be only 2nd/3rd string teams. Just like Meath football having multiple development squads with 30/35 on each squad , meath hurling is not at that stage yet. Minors are coming off An all Ireland B championship last year which was a great boost for hurling in the county. On the back of that there's only 4 players on the Meath u20 panel this year which is very strange. We have no development squads like other top hurling county's between minor and u20 and with that team only 4 players being picked how are we meant the hurlers coming through. Questions have to be asked on u20 management and the hurling board! We're still lacking in a lot of areas."
I agree, lots of questions need to be asked at club and county level. Why are most teams coached by a parent of the child on the team? Why can't we have ex players who have no skin in the team? Is there an issue recruiting good coaches? I know there are plenty of good coaches around. Human nature being as it is, parents have there own bias. I've seen boys in clubs getting 'player of the year' from their dad, the coach. It doesn't help the kid or the rest of the team. Time for big changes in Meath juvenile hurling. We can be much better. We have a population near 200,000. Let's have a proper evaluation of who is coaching our kids to be our future seniors. That's my rant over. Should have eaten properly at lunch.

TownJohnT (Meath) - Posts: 86 - 22/03/2023 16:32:48    2465865

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Replying To bountyboy22:  "All in all lads its been a successful league. New players have been blooded and we have remained unbeaten. Although we are playing against so called weaker teams than us they still need to be beaten. Great result in London at the weekend, its always a tough place to go.
Christy Ring is the priority and there is no reason they shouldnt be winning it. The issue is making the step up to Joe McD level. We are just trapped atm with being too good for CR but not good enough for Joe McD.

You would have to be envious of Kildare who we actually relegated to the CR cup two years ago."
Personally, wouldn't consider it a successful league unless we are promoted. Doesn't matter if we win all 5 group games if we end up losing the final.
For Christy Ring, again, we need to win it to meet expectations. Derry are the only team who were playing in 2A and they were relegated with some heavy defeats along the way.

Ratoath Royal (Meath) - Posts: 1374 - 23/03/2023 08:50:42    2465940

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So, that's now two full rounds of league fixtures that they'll have to reschedule.

Does anyone know why the board are not leaving it to a club by club/pitch by pitch basis and instead just pulling the whole lot?

RR (Meath) - Posts: 165 - 01/04/2023 09:45:26    2468081

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Big weekend for the hurlers with the championship starting. Vital we start well. Hopefully a good crowd gets to Navan.

countyman123 (Meath) - Posts: 34 - 14/04/2023 10:01:45    2470929

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On paper Meath should be winning the Christy Ring as easily as they did in 2019. The teams in it are somehow weaker than the ones we played in league.

Only an idiot would say it's a given though (look at Offaly in 2020).

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1664 - 14/04/2023 10:35:28    2470940

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Replying To CastleBravo:  "On paper Meath should be winning the Christy Ring as easily as they did in 2019. The teams in it are somehow weaker than the ones we played in league.

Only an idiot would say it's a given though (look at Offaly in 2020)."
I doubt very much if the teams in the Christy Ring are much weaker than in the recent League. Derry and Mayo instead of Wicklow and Donegal. I would consider Derry to be well ahead of Wicklow or Donegal and Mayo with the Tooreen contingent back will be stronger than in most of the League all be it a Division lower.
Message: Take nothing for granted, it won't just happen you have to MAKE it happen. Good luck boys.

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1080 - 14/04/2023 21:04:09    2471031

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Good luck lads, good to see some players back from injury

Charlie Ennis - Trim, Gerard Dwane - Trim, Shane Brennan - Kilmessan, Brendan McKeon - Kildalkey, Niall McLarnon - Ratoath, James Toher - Trim, Simon Ennis - Rathmolyon, Seán Geraghty - Kilskyre, Martin Healy - Kildalkey, Padraig O'Hanrahan - Ratoath, Jack Regan - Kiltale, James Kelly - Kiltale, Mikey Cole - Trim, Éamon Óg Ó Donnchadha - Clann na nGael, Nicky Potterton - Kildalkey

Subs: Jack Fagan - Dunderry, Mickey Burke - Longwood, Seán Coloe - Longwood, Evan Fitzgerald - Kildalkey, Damien Healy - Longwood, Jamie Leavy - Dunderry, David Murtagh - Trim, Seán Quigley - St. Peter's Dunboyne, Pa Ryan - Trim, Dáire Shine - Kilskyre, Conor Shirren - Kiltale

countyman123 (Meath) - Posts: 34 - 21/04/2023 10:15:43    2472097

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Let's say it…….we loose to London…..Sligo beat London, Meath scraped past Mayo, at home and then Tyrone easily disposed of Mayo, away. Together with the result from Tullamore in the football we are becoming a GAA wilderness. All underage teams both hurling and football underachieved this year. Something is very, very wrong here.

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1080 - 23/04/2023 19:01:01    2472883

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Replying To MillerX:  "Let's say it…….we loose to London…..Sligo beat London, Meath scraped past Mayo, at home and then Tyrone easily disposed of Mayo, away. Together with the result from Tullamore in the football we are becoming a GAA wilderness. All underage teams both hurling and football underachieved this year. Something is very, very wrong here."
could not agree more...this is more than A Football issue

Thelongwoodslasher (Meath) - Posts: 401 - 24/04/2023 14:48:21    2473299

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I see gannon & sullivan back on panel,did they drop two other lads off panel or what? Where they injured or are they just walking back?

PatrickTopping (Meath) - Posts: 119 - 28/04/2023 12:52:54    2474370

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Replying To PatrickTopping:  "I see gannon & sullivan back on panel,did they drop two other lads off panel or what? Where they injured or are they just walking back?"
Going by recent results I'd guess they were sent for.

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1080 - 28/04/2023 13:03:19    2474372

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