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15 teams in the Comp, have Moynalvey withdrawn from it?

Thestaters (Meath) - Posts: 13 - 24/01/2023 14:08:55    2453963

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Replying To Thestaters:  "15 teams in the Comp, have Moynalvey withdrawn from it?"
Heard before xmas Moynalvy have lost 6 starters from last year to emigration to Australia ! Must be the reason
Hard to blame young lads for going travelling but a huge blow to a small club

Anmhi364 (Meath) - Posts: 65 - 26/01/2023 15:35:54    2454426

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Definitely can't blame young people from heading abroad when you look at the housing crisis we are in. If young people could afford to buy a house near where they are from they'd be far less likely to be emigrating. Same problem across the country for a lot of clubs unfortunately

11jm11 (Kildare) - Posts: 367 - 29/01/2023 09:20:37    2454854

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Replying To 11jm11:  "Definitely can't blame young people from heading abroad when you look at the housing crisis we are in. If young people could afford to buy a house near where they are from they'd be far less likely to be emigrating. Same problem across the country for a lot of clubs unfortunately"
Or maybe they just want to see something different for a couple of years when they are young and generally free of any responsibility. Robbed of 3 years without any normal travel (no J1s or Asian adventures) so of course they would be raring to go once every country returned to some normality and no restrictions. Clubs will survive as they always have and 90% of these lads will be back within 24 months.

off_the_wall (Roscommon) - Posts: 71 - 01/02/2023 20:40:54    2455878

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Is February not very early to be playing club games? The pitches not in great condition at this time of year..

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2825 - 04/02/2023 14:56:59    2456370

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Great to get out to a few games again. Good crowds at the ones I got to on Friday and Saturday.

seasiderblues (Meath) - Posts: 352 - 05/02/2023 19:22:50    2456719

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Semi finals this weekend and final on Tuesday. Tight turnaround but the leagues are starting next week too.

seasiderblues (Meath) - Posts: 352 - 20/02/2023 20:03:21    2459518

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Replying To seasiderblues:  "Semi finals this weekend and final on Tuesday. Tight turnaround but the leagues are starting next week too."
Very tight, makes a bit of a joke of the competition really. Even if you win it, there's no celebrating it because you have a game in 4 days time. It takes the shine off it a bit in my opinion. The only way I see the Feis Cup working properly is reducing all the leagues down to 10 teams so only 9 league games. That way the league can start a bit later, around early March and the Feis Cup then doesn't have to be crammed in. I also think this makes the leagues a bit more competitive as well.

ratlag (Meath) - Posts: 582 - 21/02/2023 10:19:51    2459543

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Replying To ratlag:  "Very tight, makes a bit of a joke of the competition really. Even if you win it, there's no celebrating it because you have a game in 4 days time. It takes the shine off it a bit in my opinion. The only way I see the Feis Cup working properly is reducing all the leagues down to 10 teams so only 9 league games. That way the league can start a bit later, around early March and the Feis Cup then doesn't have to be crammed in. I also think this makes the leagues a bit more competitive as well."
Or move the start date back a week. That way the final can be on at the weekend and there is a week between the final and first league game. January 28th/29th is hardly too early to be starting. Very tough on the teams that make the final as they will be playing 3 games in 7 days.

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1003 - 21/02/2023 10:32:33    2459547

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Replying To Blackspot09:  "Or move the start date back a week. That way the final can be on at the weekend and there is a week between the final and first league game. January 28th/29th is hardly too early to be starting. Very tough on the teams that make the final as they will be playing 3 games in 7 days."
Yea I can see that logic. I'm more leaning towards giving lads a bit more of a break after xmas etc. I know we all want to see as many games as possible, but from a players perspective, I know I personally would be happier losing 2 league games, having a Feis Cup final on a weekend where it can be celebrated if won and also not have to be back training the week after xmas. Every club/team are different and some teams will be back the first week of Jan regardless of when games start, but for me, if you start the first week of Feb with Feis Cup, League starts second week of March then you have a game a week from Feb onwards and it give teams/players who want or need an extended rest the opportunity to do so before the League begins.

ratlag (Meath) - Posts: 582 - 21/02/2023 11:07:25    2459551

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Replying To ratlag:  "Yea I can see that logic. I'm more leaning towards giving lads a bit more of a break after xmas etc. I know we all want to see as many games as possible, but from a players perspective, I know I personally would be happier losing 2 league games, having a Feis Cup final on a weekend where it can be celebrated if won and also not have to be back training the week after xmas. Every club/team are different and some teams will be back the first week of Jan regardless of when games start, but for me, if you start the first week of Feb with Feis Cup, League starts second week of March then you have a game a week from Feb onwards and it give teams/players who want or need an extended rest the opportunity to do so before the League begins."
But sure the vast majority of club players are finished their season by the end of September. How much of a break do they need. All of October November December and anything probably between 4 days to 10 days in January depending on management. Plenty of downtime/rest in my opinion. The league is plenty competitive in my opinion as it is.

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1003 - 21/02/2023 12:03:17    2459559

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Replying To Blackspot09:  "But sure the vast majority of club players are finished their season by the end of September. How much of a break do they need. All of October November December and anything probably between 4 days to 10 days in January depending on management. Plenty of downtime/rest in my opinion. The league is plenty competitive in my opinion as it is."
And that's my point, there a load of different views on the league and time off etc. A smaller league and starting at the same time could mean an extra week or two without games in the summer for lads to go on holidays etc.

Games in Jan though aren't great for anyone, supporters, players, groundsmen!! The later start I think is better all round but thats just my thoughts on it, I'm sure there will be many who will agree and many more who won't

ratlag (Meath) - Posts: 582 - 21/02/2023 12:56:17    2459578

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Replying To ratlag:  "And that's my point, there a load of different views on the league and time off etc. A smaller league and starting at the same time could mean an extra week or two without games in the summer for lads to go on holidays etc.

Games in Jan though aren't great for anyone, supporters, players, groundsmen!! The later start I think is better all round but thats just my thoughts on it, I'm sure there will be many who will agree and many more who won't"
I don't think starting games on January 28th as opposed to 7 days later on February 5th would make whole pile of difference to supporters players and groundsmen. Not as if you are guaranteed the weather improves in those 7 days. The weather could be great the last weekend in Jan and terrible the first weekend in Feb or vice versa. Completely pot luck

It would be the easiest fix.

Reducing the amount of teams in each division would require restructuring of the leagues and I would imagine a motion and vote from the clubs which as we all know is never straight forward .

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1003 - 21/02/2023 13:32:16    2459585

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Players want a better game to training ratio. Here it is. If the cups were the other end of the year people would be giving out that they are just thrown in at the back end of the year.

Moving them back or forward a week doesn't make a difference. There going to be postponements at some point because of weather. Its good to have them up and running i think.

The gloss was taken off the cup competitions when they turned them into another league.

Theheinoking (Meath) - Posts: 128 - 22/02/2023 08:37:03    2459692

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I think the structure of the club season in Meath is now as good as it ever was. The cup competitions have ran very smoothly. February is a fine time to get the season up and running with the cup competitions. Much prefer having games starting in February rather than dragging them out at the end of the year in October, November and December. There is plenty of games for everyone to go around between first and second teams.

BigJoe14 (Meath) - Posts: 997 - 22/02/2023 09:44:39    2459700

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Cup competitions are working near perfect. Most clubs are able to try out new players, Dunboyne, Skryne, Summerhil, Tones, Cilles and Seneschalstown have all blooded players who wouldn't be regulars with their first team. More experienced players won't come back until first round of the league or only play a half or two in the cup.

UsernameInvalid (Meath) - Posts: 403 - 22/02/2023 09:49:01    2459705

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Replying To UsernameInvalid:  "Cup competitions are working near perfect. Most clubs are able to try out new players, Dunboyne, Skryne, Summerhil, Tones, Cilles and Seneschalstown have all blooded players who wouldn't be regulars with their first team. More experienced players won't come back until first round of the league or only play a half or two in the cup."
I agree 100% It is almost near perfect. All teams guaranteed 3 good games (well apart from the few teams in a group of 3) before the league so no need to be trying to organizing challenge games and trying to get refs etc which can be difficult. If they moved it back a week so that the final is on a weekend and then the finalists have a full week leading into the league I think it would be a perfect pre season comp.

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1003 - 22/02/2023 10:52:15    2459724

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Replying To BigJoe14:  "I think the structure of the club season in Meath is now as good as it ever was. The cup competitions have ran very smoothly. February is a fine time to get the season up and running with the cup competitions. Much prefer having games starting in February rather than dragging them out at the end of the year in October, November and December. There is plenty of games for everyone to go around between first and second teams."
I agree. I just think having the semi finals this weekend the finals mid week next week and the first league game next weekend is a bit tight. A small tweak there and it works perfectly .

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1003 - 22/02/2023 10:54:01    2459725

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Simmerhill favourites who will beat gaeil colmcille in final

Northmeath1993 (Meath) - Posts: 51 - 22/02/2023 11:00:35    2459730

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Replying To Northmeath1993:  "Simmerhill favourites who will beat gaeil colmcille in final"
I would agree. Kells seem to have almost everyone available where as Dunboyne have 4 on the meath panels and have been using the cup to blood lots of young lads. Ashbourne going well but Summerhill seem to have picked right up where they left off last year in terms of performances .

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1003 - 22/02/2023 11:19:10    2459734

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